Guide Jigglypuff 101 by RPK aka Pink=3

[Razed]

I dunno if these things have been mentioned, cause I didnt read through the 11 pages but here we go:

1) Jiggly-puff not having a Up+B recovery isn't really a down side, considering she has the best recovery in the game

2) You said Pikachu has the best Usmash in the game.... Fox has got that hands down.

3) When you mention some of the moves (i.e. Usmash), you said all their good qualities, but failed to mention their bad, like Usmash's punishable after-lag

All n all great guide though, thanks!

 

[Magus420]

2) You said Pikachu has the best Usmash in the game.... Fox has got that hands down.

I believe it says strongest u-smash in the game not best, which is correct for the most part.

 

[Ophelius]

is the giant thing up there is a guide

 

[Ophelius]

is the giant thing up there is a guide

 

[ChozenOne]

RPK is a beast. This guide is Fuxing w/ Amazing.

 

[A_mArIo]

I have a question..does jiggs prefer platforms or flat stages?

 

[ChozenOne]

Depends on the character matchup.. post this question here, and perhaps it will magically appear answered

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=94776

*note- post questions/concerns of this guide of legend here.. everything else... else where.

 

[tw0 side]

Thanks for this. I am starting to use Jigglypuff as a secondary, and BTW my main is your arch nemesis (Marth) =P

 

[tw0 side]

I am new Jigglypuff player and this has helped me alot 9/10!

 

[Kyro91]

Wow great guide! My main is jiggly and its helped me tons!

 

[RPK]

RPK is a beast. This guide is Fuxing w/ Amazing.

I so wish that this was true T_T when I made this guide I had no one but lvl 1s Dx only went to like 4 or 5 tournaments so far and got last in all of them T_T though my last tournament I got Bob$ who knocked me into the losers and then got knocked out by a Y.Link. Anyways yeah...I need to attend more tournaments and get more personal experience then just looking over guides....
EDIT: Sorry not guides, posts. So yeah....Me=Suxorz Dx

 

[TonyDaTigerYall]

ehh haha good guide. I know you say jiggly cant Chain grab and all, but there are some people who dont DI all the time and you can grab a fast faller and throw him down, grab him agian if he or she doesnt DI and just do it one more time, then grab throw up, jump and go up for a sweet rest. Ive actually done this move all the time agianst fox, falco players who dont DI, or just mess up (dont ask me how they mess up xD).

 

[Kaizer]

Why not just rest?

 

[TonyDaTigerYall]

Why not just rest?

well it depends if i want to "chain" it becuase i use rest about 3 times before i get killed once, so i guess rest gets a bit weaker after the 3rd attempt; so thats why i rack up damage a bit to make sure i kill my opponent. I dont know, im going to experiment a bit with this haha.

 

[Solid]

Thats not entirely true. you could use rest a thousand times and it would never get weaker, it will always do the same for the first hit, but using it and actually hitting with it repetitivly will lessen the damage.

And btw nice guide i loved it, nice and long cause i got nothing better to do =]

 

[TonyDaTigerYall]

Thats not entirely true. you could use rest a thousand times and it would never get weaker, it will always do the same for the first hit, but using it and actually hitting with it repetitivly will lessen the damage.

And btw nice guide i loved it, nice and long cause i got nothing better to do =]

Lol dude i already knew that, im just saying that if you hit the person with rest about 3 times then it gets weaker and sometimes the person wont even die from it, thats why its sometimes easier when you chain and THEN rest.

 

[$hYne]

You can´t "chain" -.-
even total noobs will DI, no matter if they know what di is or not ...

 

[TonyDaTigerYall]

You can´t "chain" -.-
even total noobs will DI, no matter if they know what di is or not ...

Dude, you can chain all of these characters at least twice with jiggly.

fox
falco
falcon

blah blah basically all of the fast faller characters. And yeah i know that noobs who dont know what di'ing is or w/e my cousing just presses all the buttons like an idiot and he does di, but sometimes people wont expect that youll be able to chain with a jiggly the first time, so the when you catch them agian in the air and they're about 20% or so just slap him about 2 times and then throw him down agian, maybe youll get lucky and grab him again becuase he be's trying to di but you mind tricked him into thinking that you where going to throw him down right off the bat so he might of giving up on the di. Btw calm down with the "-.-" and the dots. I wouldnt post these things here if i was lying.

@SOLID: yeah i already know that, but still sorry; i sorta made it really confusing and you might of not been able to relise that i posted that already saying what you just said. ^__^''

 

[pressthebutton]

ive noticed that my jiggly seems to be repetitive as hell, just woping away at shields, and not really doing much other than hoping for an obvious rest or extravagant edgeguard opportunity. what should i do to stop being so 1-dimensional?

btw jiggly has the best upB out of shield, hands down lol

 

[Dr. Hyde]

ive noticed that my jiggly seems to be repetitive as hell, just woping away at shields, and not really doing much other than hoping for an obvious rest or extravagant edgeguard opportunity. what should i do to stop being so 1-dimensional?

btw jiggly has the best upB out of shield, hands down lol

Well switch it up. If you are approaching with a B-air switch and go to a D-air behind the opponent. This will either hit or take away a little bit of their shield. And depending on if they "flip" you can rest them.

Also the main reason to WoP , well for me, is so that even though they are shielding I can get under their shield and start a massive combo a Falling U-air for example or N-air just to push them further into edge guarding range.

Also since I saw how much Phanna used the Edge canceling I've been trying to incorporate it into my fighting style and it seems to work for me but I'll make a topic about this.

There are plenty of tricks to learn with Jiggs and plenty of things to master so if you are just learning you shouldn't be discouraged if you aren't finding combos and rest opportunities off the bat.

 

[Brookman]

I wanted to check out this guide to see if there was any useful information, but I got down to the character match ups and you said jiggs can jump out of fox's up throw up air...>_> fail'd. up throw up air combos on jiggs till ~80%

 

[Fodder]

RPK, I love your guide and though I fear that some of the tactics, namely wavedashing, will be forever out of reach, it has still taught me a crap load of new things. BTW, I'm not sure if anyone has said this before, but if Fox ^throws and then attempts to uair, if you're at low percentages dodge to the left or right and if high tap the a button and start praying. (I get my ******** behind handed to me on a regular basis by a guy who mains Fox. No matter how much I improve, he still stays a step ahead of me.)

 

[RPK]

The character match up wasnt by me btw....And it has been a WHILE since I have updated this guide...

 

[Brookman]

RPK, I love your guide and though I fear that some of the tactics, namely wavedashing, will be forever out of reach, it has still taught me a crap load of new things. BTW, I'm not sure if anyone has said this before, but if Fox ^throws and then attempts to uair, if you're at low percentages dodge to the left or right and if high tap the a button and start praying. (I get my ******** behind handed to me on a regular basis by a guy who mains Fox. No matter how much I improve, he still stays a step ahead of me.)

It is a COMBO as in, puff is stunned from the throw until the up air hits if fox gets out of his throw properly. At low percents you can DI behind him and force him to bair. Not like it matters cause at low percents it's just about comboing puff anyway.

 

[Fodder]

It is a COMBO as in, puff is stunned from the throw until the up air hits if fox gets out of his throw properly. At low percents you can DI behind him and force him to bair. Not like it matters cause at low percents it's just about comboing puff anyway.

Ok, Thanks for the tip!

 

[ninjade1]

so pretty much i just barely added the utilt to my jiggs game and the up throw(i have a bad habit of doing a down throw). but the problem i have with the utilt combo is i cant seem to get them behind me long enough to hit them with it any help????

 

[knightpraetor]

hi, non jiggs player looking for help for my friend..was watching some mango vids and noticed he doesn't try to set up for a rest from an upthrow onto the top platform of YS..is it possible to reach in time if they tech in place/tech roll..or will they be able to get up their shield? it seems he went for an upair instead in the match i was watching

 

[PCHU]

Wow.
Ok, I hope someone reads this.
Neutral A into rest at around 40%.
Keep in mind all I have for practice is a lv. 9 Fox.
But this kills!
I've used it successfully three times! (And even better, I've only tried it three times!)

Anyways, that's probably the easiest kill I've ever seen.
Also, can dthrow chain?
Or is the lv. 9 Fox just an idiot and can't DI for crap?

Well that's all I have.
Hope I helped.

 

[RestInPeace]

Actually, Fox kills at 70%. And Neutral Air into Rest, AKA King Rest (because The King invented it), can be done in almost any percentages as long as they are not way too high. As long as you space yourself and land the Nair, they will be rested.

 

[HowdYdoo]

It has to be a reverse nair right? Or does a nair facing him work too? (For King Rest)

 

[RestInPeace]

Look at Raistlin's amazing new combo video. At 2:16, he does a forward King Rest combo.

 

[Jboy313]

It should also be pointed out that if you do a downward throw on a breakable surface (i.e. blocks in mushroom kingdom) you can immediately combo into a rest. Makes it kinda useful after all.

you can do that with a friends when you play for fun. but that stage is banned in turnies

never mind i was thinking of green greens

 

[Binx]

Wow.
Ok, I hope someone reads this.
Neutral A into rest at around 40%.
Keep in mind all I have for practice is a lv. 9 Fox.
But this kills!
I've used it successfully three times! (And even better, I've only tried it three times!)

Anyways, that's probably the easiest kill I've ever seen.
Also, can dthrow chain?
Or is the lv. 9 Fox just an idiot and can't DI for crap?

Well that's all I have.
Hope I helped.

Jab rest doesn't work in real games, people don't DI up vs jiggs which is the only thing lvl 9s do. If you are that close to Fox he'll be shining you so it won't work anyways.

Dthrow doesn't chain vs any character at any percent that I am aware of, definitely not vs Fox.

Practice vs level 3 computers, they DI more randomly, left and right (which still won't help you with human DI that changes based on percent and what they expect to be hit by) also they jab less and fall for more things an actual person might.

About utilt - if they are too low it won't always combo, its also sort of slow, most people won't fall for it, I've pretty much stopped using utilt and my game has improved a lot, now where I used to utilt (behind peoples shields mostly) I turn around and grab or jab then grab. Because of this new change I can randomly throw out an utilt in that situation around 50% and they will jump right at the wrong time and get me a free rest.

So basically utilt sucks but sometimes you get lucky and hit with it and they die.

 

[abit_rusty]

Hm I didn't know you could do a forward facing nair into rest. Good info. I've only pulled off nair to rest once, but then again I've only just been using jiggs....and it was on a zelda...

Also I probably need to utilt more...

 

[SuperToughPinkPuff]

not sure if this has already been posted in this thread but it wasn't I'm the main guide soo yeah. a fun combo is dthrow pound rest or throw in an uptilt b4 rest. I've gotten it to work on falcon ganon link marth
NOTE: I haven't had time to test this with a friend. let me know if you find it's just bc computer di

 

[HT F8]

not sure if this has already been posted in this thread but it wasn't I'm the main guide soo yeah. a fun combo is dthrow pound rest or throw in an uptilt b4 rest. I've gotten it to work on falcon ganon link marth
NOTE: I haven't had time to test this with a friend. let me know if you find it's just bc computer di

Pound -> rest only works with bad DI.

If they DI toward you, iirc.

 

[SuperToughPinkPuff]

I had a feeling =/ thanks F8 though. I wont be trying it anytime soon in real play hahah

 

[HT F8]

I had a feeling =/ thanks F8 though. I wont be trying it anytime soon in real play hahah

Oh no it's still completely possible. Every time you Pound, look out for a possible Rest to follow up. Don't depend on it at all though.

 

[Dalub]

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[rifall]

Am I Mango?

I'm sure that htis has already been said, but in Advanced Techiques intro...

question 10 reads

10. Am I King, KishPrime, Anden, KillaOr, or Magus?

I think this should be changed to

10. Am I Mango?