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I'm 0-2 now with the girls I loved :/

Sinz

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So let me go a few years back. There was this girl. Heather, I liked her for a long time. She was my friend for years and I told her that I liked her a lot. We decided to start dating, and everything was going super well. However, mid way through the relationship she started to talk about everything that she had been through in previous relationships. then, she told me that she didn't want to be with guys anymore because of how abusive, rude, and generally unkind they are. She had been in multiple relationships where she was abused, sexually assaulted, and just plain treated wrong. So she decided against dating me because of that. She is happy now with her girlfriend Taylor, I'm happy that she is happy


Now, I've liked this girl Chelsea for around two years.
She just told me that she is interested in just finding girlfriends from now on because guys are *******s. She was tired of being treated badly by guys. She was also tired of the fact that, to her at least, that every guy only wanted sex! Are men really that pig headed? I am pissed that this has happened twice now. I'm happy that she will be happier in life like I am for Heather. But, why must I fall into the stereotype that men are producing these days?!

Men to them are sex addicts, abusing, jerks, and just in general idiots. They don't do anything with their lives anymore its just sex sex sex.They don't treat women well, they don't have manners, and they don't let the relationship progress. For them it just stops at sex.

But, why must I be clumped into these categories? I've never hit a woman in my life. I never will! I'm not a sex addict either, I like it but its not the only thing I live for! I like just being around these girls, but apparently because of these stereotypes they don't like being around me.
 

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Those girls look really cute. It's tough man. A few bad relationships really do affect a girl's perception on guys. It's unfortunate how you came to know them after they had been through bad relationships with guys.
 

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Sorry to hear that man.

Unfortunately I have seen a lot of abusive relationships so I can't really give ya a lot of hope that the stereotype will change. But I am well aware that there are a select few guys that treat their women with all the love in the world. Some guys start out that way and end up taking advantage later though. Then they say it will never happen again and the girl trusts him but is hurt again. Some women just keep holding on to the man that they felt they had in the beginning, hoping that he'll some day become that loving supportive person again.

I think there has been a lot of progress though, but I think there is still enough abuse seen to deter some women, as I see it quite a bit.

Not trying to say its all guys doing it either, I've seen golden hearted guys abused and taken advantage of by women as well.

All I can tell you is keep trying and just keep showing them through your actions that you are not like that and give them time to trust that that is really who you are.
 

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Really sorry to hear it, Sinz, but you know that girls used to be treated a lot worse.
In fact women have come a long way towards equality with men.

You're just having some bad luck with girls. Maybe the next girl you find won't be so ignorant and stereotyping.
 

Sinz

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Perhaps the way you presented yourself made them not even consider giving you a chance



And are you sayin' you've never hit on a girl?
No, i mean like hit a girl. Like physically. They have been in abusive relationship before, thats what I was getting at.
 

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Yes, because posting pictures of girls and their first names is obviously invading privacy and a bad thing to do. I can now easily track them down since I know their first names and what they look like. >_>

But anyway, that blows. Sorry to hear that man. :urg:
 

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Yes, because posting pictures of girls and their first names is obviously invading privacy and a bad thing to do. I can now easily track them down since I know their first names and what they look like. >_>
Well I know I'd be kind of weirded out if someone who asked me out went on a messageboard posting about me and put up personal pics without my permission.

edit: i should add i know that wasn't your intention at all Sinz, but i was just saying.
 

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Yes, because posting pictures of girls and their first names is obviously invading privacy and a bad thing to do. I can now easily track them down since I know their first names and what they look like. >_>

But anyway, that blows. Sorry to hear that man. :urg:
good point, taking them down.
 

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I only really care about sex, but then that's because I'm not going to find anything decent from someone.

Honestly, a lot of men are like that simply because they either don't feel like or have difficulty relating to partners. Besides, who the hell wants to put their heart on a platter at such an early age anyway? It'll just lead you to get screwed over and cry while chugging a bottle of scotch.

The brain area associated with emotion is 17% larger on average in women compared to men, we honestly don't have as much to talk about, and we don't really care as much. It's not our fault, if she has a problem with it then good on her for becoming a lesbian, because what she wants in men will be sorely lacking thanks to biology.

You did nothing wrong man, and even if you really did care, they just can't see it. Our way of showing it is more often than not implied rather than said or shown clearly to them. It's obvious to other guys but not them. ****'s not cash.
 

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I agree with Teran.

If those girls can't appreciate your good qualities, Sinz, then they're not ready for what you have to offer them. That's their problem, not yours.
 

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If you want to imrpove your lady skills, watch a movie with Woody Allen and pay close attention.

"Want to do something Friday night?"
"No, sorry, I'm busy then"
"Oh, stupid me, I actually already have something planned Friday, how about Saturday."

Clever and sly. He allows himself to ask about the next night, make himself seem like a busy guy with a lot going on in his life, while avoiding claiming the appearance of seeming desperate in need for a date.
 

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If you want to imrpove your lady skills, watch a movie with Woody Allen and pay close attention.

"Want to do something Friday night?"
"No, sorry, I'm busy then"
"Oh, stupid me, I actually already have something planned Friday, how about Saturday."

Clever and sly. He allows himself to ask about the next night, make himself seem like a busy guy with a lot going on in his life, while avoiding claiming the appearance of seeming desperate in need for a date.
This had better be facetious, because that isn't clever or sly.
 

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Same score as me Sinz, though both of the girls I liked got boyfriends and I still have some feelings for them but I'm happy that they're happy with the guys they like. Sucky happening. Shame that they decided to just see you as one of those crappy stereotypes and stick you in with them. Still, there's plenty of girls that wouldn't see you as one of those kinds of guys and ignore those stereotypes. They're just harder to find.
 

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I'm really, really ****ing salty I lost the post I wrote.

tl;dr.

Guys are guys, you're stuck with that, even if you feel you're a diamond in the rough, every other guy says the same thing.

Girls don't want real guys, they want movie guys at a younger age.

Even if you find a nice girl, talking like a man won't interest them. You gotta play the game.

Play the game and get a girl sooner, or wait it out and get a nice woman. Your choice.
 

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Why must people use 'love' so loosely? Stop that.
Agreed.
Love is not the crush that you let brood in your mind for a month (or in this case a year or two).

Case in point: you'll be over it and "fall in love" again with someone else in probably around a month.
You'll see...

...just wait.
 

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Getting girls by 'playing the game' doesn't give you time to get to know them, which is why there's so many unhappy couples everywhere. I'd rather take my time and do the whole 'step by step' thing before I end up with a girl I thought was someone else.

Anyway, to the OP... I'll just say that you were unlucky. There's good guys, and there's bad guys. The fact that you crushed on two girls who had history with bad guys was just a bad coincidence, and that they decided on jumping the fence while you tried having something with them was a sad ending to your relationship. You can't really blame them for feeling what they do, nor blame yourself for them taking those huge steps while you were in the scene. The ones to blame were the previous guys, and the rest of the straight guys who feel the same way, who don't know how to treat a woman with respect. I don't know if Roxy implied this, but those kind of men just 'play the game' and can't see farther ahead into their future than the next day, where they'll probably be filling themselves with all kinds of self-gratification experiences to feel like they're the epitome of manliness.

You just gotta make sure you're not a man, but a gentleman, and hope that the next one'll be the one that breaks the broken heart cycle. That generic piece of advice is usually the only thing people can say, because it IS the only thing you should be thinking. Just make sure to notice your bad habits and iron them out, and use these experiences to your advantage.


im to srs.
 

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I'm dealing with a girl who has never dated a guy right now, and she has the worst ideas possible in her head about what could be. So be thankful it's not that. Seriously, sophomore in college, never dated or kissed a guy, and I'm here trying to show that I'm amazing enough to be the first.

Honestly Sinz, we should skype chat about it sometime, seeing as we're not using it for snake discussion lol. But in short I'd say, if it's love, it tends to present itself as so and the opportunities arise and you take advantage, give yourself some time, and re-evaluate, then you'll know if you should really be this caught up on the matter or just let it be and look for your next love interest.
 

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I agree with Teran.

If those girls can't appreciate your good qualities, Sinz, then they're not ready for what you have to offer them. That's their problem, not yours.
Thanks. (: I was kind of bitter yesterday because of it.

He should just write a story where they get together.
k, they live on the same street so it might happen. Too bad Heather is already dating someone.

If you want to imrpove your lady skills, watch a movie with Woody Allen and pay close attention.

"Want to do something Friday night?"
"No, sorry, I'm busy then"
"Oh, stupid me, I actually already have something planned Friday, how about Saturday."

Clever and sly. He allows himself to ask about the next night, make himself seem like a busy guy with a lot going on in his life, while avoiding claiming the appearance of seeming desperate in need for a date.
I don't have any problem with lady skills haha. Its just frustrating that the two girls I get the furthest with relationship wise(marriage talks that she brings up and I agree with., anniversaries(sp?), etc...)
This had better be facetious, because that isn't clever or sly.
Actually, its kind of what I already do.
Why must people use 'love' so loosely? Stop that.
I've only loved two women. These two were the ones that we were both completely serious about the relationship. I hate it when people use the term extremely loosely as well.

I'm really, really ****ing salty I lost the post I wrote.

tl;dr.

Guys are guys, you're stuck with that, even if you feel you're a diamond in the rough, every other guy says the same thing.

Girls don't want real guys, they want movie guys at a younger age.

Even if you find a nice girl, talking like a man won't interest them. You gotta play the game.

Play the game and get a girl sooner, or wait it out and get a nice woman. Your choice.
I'm terrible at games D:
pro tip, on long post hit ctrl+A then ctrl + c
Agreed.
Love is not the crush that you let brood in your mind for a month (or in this case a year or two).

Case in point: you'll be over it and "fall in love" again with someone else in probably around a month.
You'll see...

...just wait.
How about 1 year 6 months and 3 weeks? That's how long we were dating. Haha. But, I see your point. The problem really becomes what is love? Which there is no solid answer to because it is truly a matter of opinion. The definition changes for each person. For some it may be a marvelous feeling of admiration and trust. While for others it could be the undying wanting to be together forever.
If that doesn't work, try head butting them in the chest. They dig that.
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Classic protip.
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Getting girls by 'playing the game' doesn't give you time to get to know them, which is why there's so many unhappy couples everywhere. I'd rather take my time and do the whole 'step by step' thing before I end up with a girl I thought was someone else.

Anyway, to the OP... I'll just say that you were unlucky. There's good guys, and there's bad guys. The fact that you crushed on two girls who had history with bad guys was just a bad coincidence, and that they decided on jumping the fence while you tried having something with them was a sad ending to your relationship. You can't really blame them for feeling what they do, nor blame yourself for them taking those huge steps while you were in the scene. The ones to blame were the previous guys, and the rest of the straight guys who feel the same way, who don't know how to treat a woman with respect. I don't know if Roxy implied this, but those kind of men just 'play the game' and can't see farther ahead into their future than the next day, where they'll probably be filling themselves with all kinds of self-gratification experiences to feel like they're the epitome of manliness.

You just gotta make sure you're not a man, but a gentleman, and hope that the next one'll be the one that breaks the broken heart cycle. That generic piece of advice is usually the only thing people can say, because it IS the only thing you should be thinking. Just make sure to notice your bad habits and iron them out, and use these experiences to your advantage.


im to srs.
Alright, thanks (: I was just bitter when I wrote this haha.
I'm dealing with a girl who has never dated a guy right now, and she has the worst ideas possible in her head about what could be. So be thankful it's not that. Seriously, sophomore in college, never dated or kissed a guy, and I'm here trying to show that I'm amazing enough to be the first.

Honestly Sinz, we should skype chat about it sometime, seeing as we're not using it for snake discussion lol. But in short I'd say, if it's love, it tends to present itself as so and the opportunities arise and you take advantage, give yourself some time, and re-evaluate, then you'll know if you should really be this caught up on the matter or just let it be and look for your next love interest.
Alrighty :D
Mind telling me your success rate with women?
Isn't that a bit prideful?
I have a good success rate in my mind. However, how do you define success? A kiss, sex, a date, being their friend, a relationship, or getting married? The term success is being used where it is just misleading.
 

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the vast majority of girls in high school and college are idiots when it comes to relationships...

</everygirlblogever>

EDIT: ehh that may have been a little harsh. but honestly, even the ones that you think are smart and sophisticated... they are secret sluts. you're lucky if you can find a mature sophisticated girl while you're still in school.
 

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The thing is. They have justifications that are legitimate. They had been abused so. yeah...

I really don't know why i wrote this blog now. I think i was just blowing steam. But, thanks for all the responses I really appreciate it!
 

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I only really care about sex, but then that's because I'm not going to find anything decent from someone.

Honestly, a lot of men are like that simply because they either don't feel like or have difficulty relating to partners. Besides, who the hell wants to put their heart on a platter at such an early age anyway? It'll just lead you to get screwed over and cry while chugging a bottle of scotch.

The brain area associated with emotion is 17% larger on average in women compared to men, we honestly don't have as much to talk about, and we don't really care as much. It's not our fault, if she has a problem with it then good on her for becoming a lesbian, because what she wants in men will be sorely lacking thanks to biology.

You did nothing wrong man, and even if you really did care, they just can't see it. Our way of showing it is more often than not implied rather than said or shown clearly to them. It's obvious to other guys but not them. ****'s not cash.
This; a thousand times this. Trying to relate to women on a deep, emotional level almost always gets you stuck in the Friend Zone but, Sinz, I appreciate that you're at least making the effort to do so. Despite this, you should take note of what you learn through the experience because it will help you on future endeavors.
 

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Alright, thanks for your wonderful input.
 

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Mind telling me your success rate with women?
Considering this is the internet and I could tell you that I bed another girl every night, there doesn't seem to be much of a point in this, does there?

As it stands, I'm doing pretty well though, thanks for asking.

But if I weren't, it's good to know that my problem is that I'm just not lame enough.

"You wanna go do something Friday?"

"Sorry no, I'm busy."

"SILLY ME, I MEANT SATURDAY OF COURSE."


That's not exactly clever or sly son, I don't really understand how you can think so little of the female mind's ability to pick up on things, but apparently it isn't much.

Let's hypothesize that she, for whatever reason-- potentially mental ***********, doesn't pick up on the fact that you threw on the brakes and backpedaled faster than thought possible. Do you think her mind springs to "oh my, he's a busy and important guy, I'd better watch my thoughts before I get all hot and bothered"? Really?

Yeah, I bet you're just rolling in *****.
 

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i dunno, of course it's all sad n stuff and i feel sorry for you

but just imagine they would have left you for another guy who's an obvious ******* that'd be way worse

it's good that you're happy for them, don't be too upset 'bout it, and move on :D

wish you the best of luck.
 

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Link to original post: [drupal=3396]I''m 0-2 now with the girls I loved :/ [/drupal]



So let me go a few years back. There was this girl. Heather, I liked her for a long time. She was my friend for years and I told her that I liked her a lot. We decided to start dating, and everything was going super well. However, mid way through the relationship she started to talk about everything that she had been through in previous relationships. then, she told me that she didn't want to be with guys anymore because of how abusive, rude, and generally unkind they are. She had been in multiple relationships where she was abused, sexually assaulted, and just plain treated wrong. So she decided against dating me because of that. She is happy now with her girlfriend Taylor, I'm happy that she is happy
WTF? WHATTHE****!!!

This is exactly what happened to me. Her name was Heather as well. Except she's still a sex addict and has both a girlfriend and boyfriend at the same time. Her girlfriend's name is Kayla though.

I know exactly what it feels like. But listen. There are better people out there that aren't messed up on the inside. You won't be able to save them. That's the truth. You'll meet someone who's different. I did. And I'm going fishing tomorrow with her. Don't worry. Things play out.
 
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