Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[Heartstring]

So every time you sneezed you could jump if you wanted to?

with my current cold, this would be amazing

sup guys whats been going on?

I've been working on music recently....So not much smash talking recently. But I do have a question who's all going to APEX?

well if you must know, im currently caked in faketan lotion in order to get myself looking ramjam enough to cosplay dudley XD

and im gonig to apex, i cant believe im taking a holiday to america to play a computer game, oh i so silly

Ike's ftilt is a terrible attack that extends Ike's hurtbox forward thereby ruining any spacing game you could be trying to pull off.

i wouldnt call it a terrible move, its jsut not good for the purpose jam suggested
personally, i use it as an alternative killing method on characters who are too short to get hit by a b-air when standing, as most have no range (except olimar and mk, but **** them)

 

[Ussi]

ftilt can easily be dash grabbed though

 

[Heartstring]

yeah, thats why you space correctly :B

 

[Ussi]

no, Ike's after lag is just dumb :\

Most characters with no range have the speed to grab it.

 

[Heartstring]

no, you jsut need to get better /bored

yeah i know, its not something you throw out though, its like 'this is going to work just right here' and you have to be right

 

[Ussi]

its more "I hope this hits cause I can get severely punished if this fails"

 

[Blubolouis]

You can punish marth's DB4 with ftilt, feels good.

 

[Ussi]

which DB4? Down? side? Up?

matters since down is the laggiest, and up is the least laggiest

 

[Nysyarc]

You should only be using Ftilt to punish, on a hard read, or when grab releasing Wario; and only for the KO. It's range can also make it a good edge-guarding move if timed properly against certain recoveries, people usually don't see it coming and it's knockback can make for some very early kills at the ledge.

But yah, anyone who's using Ftilt for spacing or general damage-racking needs to stoppit.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

But yah, anyone who's using Ftilt for spacing or general damage-racking needs to stoppit.

Make me! D:<

Nah, I don't do this.

 

[theeboredone]

Reminds me back in 2008 when this one Ike main insisted you could do jab to f-tilt LOL.

 

[Blubolouis]

If you can't land jab to ftilt, you need to get better.

 

[Heartstring]

If you can't land jab to ftilt, you need to get better.

i laughed

jab to ftilt though, im almost glad i didnt play in 08, it sounds dire

ftilt is a kill move, to be used in place of fsmash when you need somethnig a little nippier...otherwise its eh

 

[jamlosingthegame]

What's funny is that back in '08 I played close to how Ike is played now. Kept doing Nairs and jab1, 2, 3 with the occasional Usmash. Only thing I was doing wrong was using QD to recover and using Fsmash as often as Usmash, but it was '08 so I got away with it. There were also rare Bairs, but then I found out about RAR Bairs.

EDIT: If Blubo went to numpad talk I assume DB4 is Marth's Dancing Blade. Not sure because the direction (4) is usually before the A/B/C and D is usually a dash though (66/44).

 

[C.J.]

DB4 is the 4th hit of Marth's DB. In the way it was being used it is probably referring to the side variation on whiff as I don't think you can ftilt Marth OoS from DB4S.
On the topic of DB, if you believe you are about to get hit by DB and know you can't shield (lag, landing, or whatever) hold away from Marth and don't try and SDI; it's the only *semi*reliable way to escape DB before the 4th hit connects. In that case ftilt will work beautifully to punish DB.
DB4U only has 5 fewer frames so the punishes available shouldn't be that dissimilar.

Also, the person above me said that you shouldn't use QD to recover that much, however I see Ryo do it frequently. Why does he do it/get away with it if he shouldn't then?
(inb4Floridaisbad)

 

[Teh Brettster]

Sigh

QD is NOT a wrong option to recover. Just use it right.

 

[theeboredone]

I tend to use QD more often than other Ike mains on stage. It's a great spurt of the moment move to pull out given how quick it goes. Free 10 damage.

 

[Zatchiel]

I like using QD for mobility around the stage as well. I don't use it as often for recovery, but I'm aware of the option, and instinctively implement it when I feel it safe/suit.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I'm probably using QD as a recovery wrong then.

 

[theeboredone]

 

[Ussi]

lol.... wait racism considers people to be living things?

 

[theeboredone]

LOL. Brett so mad after watching his Rangers choke that game away. He deleted a pic I posted of a "choke job" off of his FB.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Yes I did.

Congratulations.

**** you. And nobody talk to me about it. Or I will go ape-****.

 

[Blubolouis]

I was talking about DB4 on block, the normal -red version. Probably the green one too then, perhaps not the blue one.

 

[Mozz]

What about yellow version blubo? Pikachu feels left out, you show love to a Japanese only game in green and ignore the special edition of awesomeness?

 

[Senliten]

What about yellow version blubo? Pikachu feels left out, you show love to a Japanese only game in green and ignore the special edition of awesomeness?

bloody loled,
Also Blu; 2.DB4, 6.DB4, 8.DB4 remember mmmkay

 

[Heartstring]

haha yeah do remember that, because i got confused as **** when i saw DB4, which is a tekken notation for most characters hard knockdown attack, i was all like 'wait, wat?'

 

[theeboredone]

For any PW fans, here is how it's gonna look like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_foqkDzsvtQ

 

[Mozz]

YES! YES! YES!

Captain Falcon approves of that link Bored

 

[Ussi]

They are throwing hologram screens at each other.


i'm wanna watch it when it gets fan subbed.

 

[benaji261!]

Sigh

QD is NOT a wrong option to recover. Just use it right.

What other option do you have aside from aether anyways? lol QD is the ONLY other option to recover when you're so far out.

 

[Ussi]

Aether will reach the stage 94% of the time QD will. QD is faster at being unexpected so I'd say there is good use for QD but aether can reach usually.

QD would be worthless if Ike had better air acceleration. Damn worst acceleration in the game -_-

 

[Ussi]

It's so fun styling with eruption. I dunno how, but I keep hitting Marth out of his DS when he recovers

Also, it's snowing Wtf!!!!

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

OH GOD THE SNOW IS COVERING EVERYTHING, HEELLLPP

Bring in the flamethrowers.

 

[Ussi]

Quick, go troll 4chan BS

 

[Nidtendofreak]

*is just far enough north to not have snow atm*

:D

 

[Ussi]

Canada is invading the USA with a snowstorm! They are using some weather transfer device to give us their snow!

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I like the snow. Keep it coming Nys!

 

[Nysyarc]

Get back in the igloo and make me a snow cone Ussi. And you should put up a sign about your polar bear, that thing's dangerous.

Spoiler

It's not snowing up here in NS, not even cold actually.

 

[Heartstring]

Aether will reach the stage 94% of the time QD will. QD is faster at being unexpected so I'd say there is good use for QD but aether can reach usually.

QD would be worthless if Ike had better air acceleration. Damn worst acceleration in the game -_-

...is it? i knew it wasnt great but i didnt think it was the worst in the game, i had it i my head that it was robs

Get back in the igloo and make me a snow cone Ussi. And you should put up a sign about your polar bear, that thing's dangerous.

Spoiler

It's not snowing up here in NS, not even cold actually.

i giggles heartily
anime convention today, spent a bit of time on the brawl setup advertising the hell out of my next tournament. i feel like a troll, because by the end everyone was convinced that ganon had become high tier, and i didnt even say anything