Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[san.]

Last few Olimars who CPd me to FD I 3 stocked lol.

I just do better vs Oli the higher the ceiling, usually.

 

[theeboredone]

I wasn't too comfortable about halberd and olimar's usmash so I banned it. I wasn't too sure tbh

Halberd is a smart ban. You made the right choice.

 

[Kirk]

I blame crashboards.

 

[theeboredone]

I'd still infract you if I was a mod =)

But seriously though, I feel like this whole summer has been filled with the site being down, hacked, or being slow.

 

[Kirk]

I would too! Triple posting is unacceptable!

 

[Ussi]

Could just merge the posts together lile a nice understanding person

 

[Teh Brettster]

You come back at really random times, Kirk. Then again, if it were predictable, it wouldn't be as cool.

Only Marth main around here is my roommate... who quit the game well over a year ago.

 

[Kirk]

I try, its all I'm good at.

I saw Mr Doom at a tourney a week ago. Didnt get a chance to play cause I dont know, stuff just seems to work out that way all the time!

 

[Palpi]

It is because Kirk is a introvert, branch out man! lololol

 

[theeboredone]

I never even notice Kirk due to how quiet he is. K-Prime status.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Whoa, wait. Kirk at a tourney?
I thought you stopped doing that.

 

[Kirk]

I have my on/off streaks of playing brawl, getting back into it again. Job and life and new house and you know how it is. Though kinda sad that my Bowser is performing better then my Ike nowadays. Dunno what I'm to do!

 

[Zatchiel]

Looking back on most of my vids, I'd like to thank you all on helping me improve. I don't think I would have gotten where I am now without help from you guys (although I've still got a ways to go, haha). Anyway, I have the timing for my RAR down, but apparently, there's some time (I'm assuming it's during the start-up frames of jumping?) where if you hit Bair, the jump glitch occurs (on tilt stick setup). If this happens, I normally air-dodge into the ground and proceed to throw out Bair. Normally tends to work, but not as much as I'd hope, since the glitch is becoming common for me.
I also like using Counter to disrupt momentum during momentum canceling. Anything good or bad about that? I'm normally too far out to get punished for using it in that manner, save for some projectiles (maybe). If anything, I am definitely using Nair a lot more in my play. Like, wow. I switch up my use between the A button and diagonal on C-stick for Nair.
I'm still practicing the timing for Jab > Bair. Anyone have the inputs for this? I do Jab > buffer turnaround > greet-to-retreat Bair. (Greet-to-retreat means weave in then weave away during the Bair.)

 

[Teh Brettster]

@ Kirk- I don't know what to say about your Bowser doing better than your Ike, lol. It's odd, to say the least. But hey, you have a solid character for low tiers. Just like I have my Zelda.

@ Zatch- Don't use counter to cancel momentum, because it actually pushes you further in whatever direction you're going before it stops you. We've tried everything considering b-reversing and wave bouncing it to use it to our advantage. It just won't work.

 

[AN(M)ist]

Jab>bair is kinda like: A,qcb~J~F+A or A,qcb~J~CF.

A - Attack
qcb - quarter cycle back
~ - input next move asap
J - Jump
F - forward or towards opponent
+ - perform simultaneously
CF - Cstick forward or towards opponent

 

[AN(M)ist]

Jab>bair is kinda like: A,qcb~J~F+A.

A - Attack
qcb - quarter cycle back
~ - input next move asap
J - Jump
F - forward or towards opponent
+ - perform simultaneously

*****Double Post courtesy of SWF*****

 

[san.]

I'm really starting to like boost pivot grab as a mixup to retreating bair in most cases except reverse aerial rush up close.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Mist, you know jab to bair doesn't need a down input at any time, right?

Aaaand, I still have never in my life done a boost pivot grab. I really do need to learn that.

 

[Ussi]

Is that going towards them or like a retreating grab?

 

[san.]

Retreating.

@ Brett

Do a pivot grab, but instead of just Z or whatever you use, flick the C-stick at the same time. I make sure to at least hit Z first or around the same time in order to prevent a dash attack.

 

[Zatchiel]

San, doesn't it work with attack and grab at (almost) the same time? It's how I do mine. However, when it comes to Bthrow CG, I can use Grab with C-stick down (for the instant DA).

 

[Mr. Doom]

I try, its all I'm good at.

I saw Mr Doom at a tourney a week ago. Didnt get a chance to play cause I dont know, stuff just seems to work out that way all the time!

That was my fault entirely. I had volunteered to drive up to the venue overnight because some people didn't get off work until after midnight. When I got up there I wasn't feeling well at all. I did try to go to sleep so that I'd be rested for the tourney, but I kept waking up.

 

[san.]

San, doesn't it work with attack and grab at (almost) the same time? It's how I do mine. However, when it comes to Bthrow CG, I can use Grab with C-stick down (for the instant DA).

It probably does due to the nature of the C-stick, but I never really tried to use it that way.


Also, I found a deal earlier today, hopefully it comes through.

 

[theeboredone]

Chances are, there's gonna be a recall/"apology" letter.

Also, chances are I'm getting a free 3DS next Saturday.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

That's like when I saw 360s on Amazon for like $20 or something and there was cake instead.

 

[Kirk]

One of these days DOOM! We shall play one of these days!

 

[san.]

Yeah, you have a habit of going to tournaments and not playing the other Ike players there.

@Bored, yeah they're going to refund everyone tomorrow. Worth it anyways.

 

[Mr. Doom]

One of these days DOOM! We shall play one of these days!

[collapse="Really, Kirk? I figured you'd know by now, or maybe you did that on purpose. Either way..."]

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@San-san: Less than $20 for a 3DS? lol If it's too good to be true, it probably is. However...

And that's not too good to be true.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Wow, this boost pivot grab backthrow infinite is tough.
I'm having trouble doing it more than 3 times in a row.

I'm probably a good 10-15 minutes practicing it and my record is 6 in a row, but I'm getting more consistent... actually I'm a lot more consistent than I was when I wrote the part about having trouble for more than 3 times in a row. And now I'm losing it because I'm trying too much. We'll see how I do later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Has anyone ever done this in tournament, recently? This boost pivot grab... I'm not seeing the reason to practice it. All of my opponents sit next to the fire, chewing on S'mores.

 

[Zatchiel]

Has anyone ever done this in tournament, recently? This boost pivot grab... I'm not seeing the reason to practice it. All of my opponents sit next to the fire, chewing on S'mores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri1kPVKV18w&feature=player_detailpage#t=366s
It helps in situations where you don't have time or to run and get momentum to do a far-sliding pivot grab. Also helps with getting that pivot grab range without having to worry about little ground spaces, which is where the Bthrow CG comes to mind.

Edit: Guys, I've come to love seeing Jab 1 > Jab 1 and RAR Bair.

 

[theeboredone]

All I saw was DDD rolling 200 times.

Is Mario now considered manly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2_DuFvyQYc

 

[benaji261!]

All I saw was DDD rolling 200 times.

Is Mario now considered manly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2_DuFvyQYc

LOL

10chars

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Has anyone ever done this in tournament, recently? This boost pivot grab... I'm not seeing the reason to practice it. All of my opponents sit next to the fire, chewing on S'mores.

This is a reason to practice it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXhmJRnYpWg&t=319s

Do it better than I did on your first try, and they'll stay away from that part of the ship if they know what's good. And that's good positioning =)

 

[Zatchiel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2_DuFvyQYc

There's something about this. I cannot stop laughing.

 

[Blubolouis]

I did it in tournament last week-end on delphino. It was free %+ bthrow as the stage went up, messing with the guy's recovery.
I found the cg easier if I thought of it as a regular bthrow>dash attack "+shield."

 

[Mr. Doom]

What are the inputs for that bthrow cg?

 

[san.]

You just backthrow someone against the wall, and then run past them and pivot grab to grab them again. So you don't bump into the wall, after the kick part of bthrow hits someone, just input dash -> pivot grab + attack (I use cstick) to boost pivot grab since you won't collide with the wall like that.

On Bowser you can just turn around and grab.

If you have trouble with the CG, you only need to do it a few times before you can followup with more %.

If you don't feel like doing it anymore, you can:

regular grab to bthrow+dash attack

jab1 lock on the walls/jab in general (if the wall is short they'll get out quick if they're not Fox or something)

Utilt/Ftilt (dtilt?)

bair

 

[Mr. Doom]

I should've been more specific. Is this boost pivot grab similar to Falco's, only that Ike doesn't slide nearly as far?

 

[san.]

Yes, it's the same input for every character.

At first, I thought Ike slides too far. I'm starting to look at it a bit more recently.