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how do you deal w/ crappy tech skill?

Pi

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you know how some times your tech skill is just ****ty
like you can't waveland or miss L cancels or dashes after them

what do you do to alleviate this?

usually i just resign to being off for a while and expect to do better next smashfest but i was curious to see if anyone has some methods for rectifying ****ty tech skill
 

Pi

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& that helps w/ ****ty tech skill?


but srs, his flows so sick that it should be mopped up
ima make it a hyperlink to his video, seen that ish like 30 times
 

Rockenos

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Monday morning, I played against some CPUs, played normally, even did a little better than usual. 4pm, a friend came over (I had stopped for a few hours for computer games) we played and I was playing like ****.
I feel the reason was that computer games **** me up, and I feel like a good way to get rid of it is to play CPUs for an hour. Sounds dumb, but I feel like I just wanted to beat my friend so badly that I wasn't focusing on tech skill or anything, and if I was under literally no pressure to win, I'd be able to focus a bit and get back to normal.
Idk if that's just me though, try eatinf Enchiladas. Got a good feeling ahouy enchiladas tonight.

:phone:
 

Mic_128

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The best 3 things to do, are 'Practise, Practise, and see the first idea.'
 

Pengie

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Stop playing Samus and pick up Fox :troll:

No seriously, try playing Fox for a bit and see if that doesn't alleviate missing stuff like dashing after wavedashes/aerials. Other than that, I guess it's just building up the muscle memory with your character.
 

HT F8

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Stop playing Samus and pick up Fox :troll:

No seriously, try playing Fox for a bit and see if that doesn't alleviate missing stuff like dashing after wavedashes/aerials.
This. I always start my practice/playing sessions with Fox, then to Falcon, then to my mains. Warms me up pretty well.
 
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try to find an empty tv and

make sure you can do what you are struggling with atm

might be more practical for a simpler character like falcon but on day 3 of genesis I couldn't gentleman for **** and had to sit and practice for like 15 minutes just doing it over and over, doing bare adjustments until my hands got used to the timing

if i am failing basic L-cancelling and movement I sometimes turn on 3 level 1 icies and practice moves on them and play until I can grasp the tiny differences in timing from hitting 1-3 icies, weak hit L-cancel timing, etc
 

KirbyKaze

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if i am failing basic L-cancelling and movement I sometimes turn on 3 level 1 icies and practice moves on them and play until I can grasp the tiny differences in timing from hitting 1-3 icies, weak hit L-cancel timing, etc
stealing this
 

Jonas

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Usually when I mes up basic tech skill it's because I've suddenly adopted a habit where I do things the wrong way. I usually get out of it by paying more attention to it rather than just relying on muscle memory, until I start doing it right again.
I play Sheik. :troll:
I play Brawl :troll:
Edit: Damn, gotta read page 2 before I post.
 

Pi

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Usually when I mes up basic tech skill it's because I've suddenly adopted a habit where I do things the wrong way. I usually get out of it by paying more attention to it rather than just relying on muscle memory, until I start doing it right again.


I play Brawl :troll:
Edit: Damn, gotta read page 2 before I post.
>still uses 20 ppp =|

i switch to fox some times, and anyone else w/ a 4 frame jump, some times it seems to work but the other day nothin
i'll try focusing on what i'm essing up on in particular
 

ThePrime

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I usually just stop, take a breath and start doing really slow inputs
Slow enough that I know I can get it down, then progressively speed it up
 

00000001

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I play a few characters, Marth, Samus, Falco, Falcon

If you posess the knowledge, generally it's just a matter of warming up which takes more or less time depending upon the person.

what I usually do is start with the character that takes the least tech, which is generally Marth or Samus, then after playing for a bit with them - I usually play a level 9 bowser or a level 1 anyone (usually for figuring out combos on other characters)..this doesn't help with tech chases or dealing with DI, but it will et you into the habit of starting to follow up hits with things that could combo.

Usually after playing Samus or Marth or whoever else takes little tech, then I can switch when I see my self landing most of the wavelands and l-cancels and stuff (warmed up), then I can move on to more tech heavy characters, like Falco and Falcon...then I can do 0 to death combos on the comp almost per stock.

Also, if you need general tech help, just go on practice and run around on the stage for like a few hours (seriously it helps, I used to do this daily for hours), once you can move around good, start throwing in lasers, kicks, l-canceling just whatever..keep running around while doing attacks and such. It might be boring but it helps tons. This is my practice method, anyway...I almost never play anyone irl. :(

OH! I can't stress how awesome learning to properly ledge drop is too, just saying. LEARN IT if you haven't already :)
 

Superspright

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Practice until your hands feel like they are going to fall off--then practice some more. If you have inconsistent tech skill it is because you inconsistently practice. If you practice enough it will be so natural you won't even think about it. It will just happen.
 

Zodiac

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Imo its just a mental thing when your tech skill goes off, I have damn good tech skill, but 80% of the time when I play people it goes away, why? because I get nervous sometimes and it creates a mental block of "What if when I start playing my tech skill sucks and my game goes down in general?" This puts pressure on me and takes away the concentration I would be using to play well. So the goal here is to find out what in your brain is taking away from your concentration/enjoyment of the game and ignore it. You know you can do your tech skill without a problem, so just concentrate on what you can do and have confidence in that, don't worry about anything else except what you can do.
 

Kason Birdman

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omg mon i totally know. I get this all the time. infact im in a phase right now.

i consider myself decently technical, but yet sometimes i just cant do **** properly and i feel sticky and slow. its usually just with one person though. for instance when i play fox my falco gets bad techy. so try using someone else conistantly for a couple minutes and see how you feel with them, if you feel fine with them, then just do mad tech skill practice with the character your playing sticky with and dont play with anyone else
 

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I like Zhu's idea of playing people not as good as you, this works a lot for reasons unknown.

I also think switching to a more technically demanding character helps, which might seem counter productive. I just switch to fox when everything else sucks to sharpen my reflexes and fingers.
 

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For people who get nervous:

If you have ANYBODY to play with, make them play with you. Even if you have to strap them down to a chair and tape a controller to their hands lol. The more you play with people, the less nervous you get playing people
 

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you know how some times your tech skill is just ****ty
like you can't waveland or miss L cancels or dashes after them

what do you do to alleviate this?

usually i just resign to being off for a while and expect to do better next smashfest but i was curious to see if anyone has some methods for rectifying ****ty tech skill
First: examine your controller. see if any problems with the l button and your analog stick.

Second: play CPU lv.1

Thirdly: DD in the start of the match. You'll gain your rhythm.
 

Roneblaster

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Quit worrying if it will get better/why youre doing bad and just play. If you are of reasonable skill level/good with your hands/play enough, it WILL come.

This obviously only applys if your controller is working properly.

:phone:
 

Rubyiris

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3: Sometimes you just have to resign that that day is just not your day. Even the best players have periods of time where their mechanics are just bad that day, and the more you focus on it, the worse it gets.

I find that taking a several hour break is the best way to approach the issue, or just play a different game.
 

Pi

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3: Sometimes you just have to resign that that day is just not your day. Even the best players have periods of time where their mechanics are just bad that day, and the more you focus on it, the worse it gets.

I find that taking a several hour break is the best way to approach the issue, or just play a different game.
that's what i usually do but ima try out some of this other ish see if i can't jumpstart tech on those bad days
 

Rubyiris

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unfortunately that probably is the best/only way to approach the issue. It's something I've been trying to figure out for years, and a huge reason why I didn't meet my goals at Genesis 2.

My technical skill didn't come back until I started playing hella Project Melee day 2 AFTER I was eliminated from pools. :|
 

Terry

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If you're messing up L-cancels, are you L-cancelling by habit? You want to be able to L-cancel by command not by habit. I used to L-cancel fine and then play a bit with ganondorf and miss the L-cancel on his dair a lot of the time. Its because I had a set way of L-cancelling and wasn't thinking about it.
 

Mokumo

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last smashfest i was at i felt pretty good the way i was playing the whole time. halfway through i smoked some reefer and my tech skill improved a lot. it doesn't always happen like that though =/
 
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