Housepets! Mafia - Game Over - Who lived happily ever after in Babylon Gardens?

[Kantrip]

JTB, I want to know why your intentions were townie and who you think is scum.

 

[JTB]

With regards to what?

 

[Kantrip]

Your gambit specifically. You said the intentions earlier and they didn't match up with what you were really doing.

 

[JTB]

My intention was a read on TG7 and I got my read on TG7. I don't know what you are getting at.

 

[Kantrip]

T-block covered earlier how TG7 was not your focus during the gambit. You didn't even get the town read you say you got until after you were questioned about him remaining null.

Vote:JTB

 

[Xiivi]

Vc1h

6/10|10.27.11 11:59PM EST

votee|voters
JTB|T-block/Red Ryu/Kantrip/
Auspher|JTB/Gustave/TokyoGamer7/
No Vote|Auspher/Terywj/John2k4/The Paprika Killer/

 

[JTB]

I'm pretty sure I didn't have him at null, but just hadn't given my read on him yet. And why are you using this as justification for your vote now and not back then?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

:|

Now I'm being lynched because I'm questioning a 'clear', ****ing stupid.

That's not why I am, more so with your play with the gambit and your reactions.

Plus I'm willing to wait a day with Auspher, you not so much with the info I'd get from your flip, Gustave and Kantrip immediately come to mind.

If you flip town, then I wait for T-block tomorrow and look at the other 4 players whom haven't made large impacts on the game overall.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Scratch that, gonna look at Kantrip regardless of what JTB flips.

 

[JTB]

Ugh, what I hate the most about this is everyone is reliant on a scum flip for connections when I'm flipping town and no one is putting much thought into who to look at on my flip.

 

[JTB]

unvote
Vote: kantrip

 

[T-block]

I'm pretty sure I didn't have him at null, but just hadn't given my read on him yet. And why are you using this as justification for your vote now and not back then?

You're contradicting yourself vvv

I guess I am at blame for this. I was more focused on RR and TPK at the time that I didn't really pay attention to TG7 and it wasn't until I did a more detailed readthrough that I came to the conclusion that he was town. /shrug

 

[Jim Morrison]

unvote
Vote: kantrip

I, for one, would be interested in the reasoning. If you want Kantrip to respond first, I'd be fine with that, but with the lynch being due tomorrow, some haste is appreciated!

 

[T-block]

I'm putting in thought now. Do these stances still hold?

Here's my full list of stances, as it seems that T-blocks case includes my lack of reads on certain people he thinks are scummy.

Tery is a null leaning scum. He hasn't posted anything worthwhile in this game, which isn't unlike Tery's playstyle at all, but when he was town in Megaman X, he atleast made some contributions in D1. I don't like that his vote is still on me from RVS and has yet to do anything else with it or push anyone.

TG7 I have already gone over.

I don't like Auspher either. His 153 doesn't sit well with me at all. He's testing the waters by asking others about me before voting me. Also, between his 153 and his vote, I'm changed from null to null leaning scum when the only thing I had posted was I would catch up that night. It doesn't sit well with me because there 3 pages of content he would be commenting on, but instead he decides to ignore it all and vote me. His vote on me is weak as well because his reasoning for my gambit is weak as hell.

TPK is someone I have eye on and I'll come back to him later in more detail. I don't like his flavor fishing on me as if he was trying to make my claim less credible and I don't like his fishing for role pm information on TG7.

Gustave has a direct contradiction in his 85. He previously stated in his 44 that he doesn't believe flavor is always accurate when it comes to claims, but in his 85, he doesn't trust my claim, adding in the flavor mix-up. He reinforces this in his 121. And that's not the only thing that's contradictory. His 40, 44, and 85 implies he believes there is some truth to my claim (while still skeptical of it), but in his 125, he states my gambit was super obvious.

I haven't read his response to T-block yet since that will take a while to go through itself, but these are my initial thoughts on him up to his response to T-block.

Kantrip is null leaning town. Reasoning for him not being a complete town read is his pressure on TG7 but lack of a solid stance on him yet. I like his thoughts as to why my gambit is null as well as his pressure on Auspher (which I didn't notice had his stance as well). Give me what you have gathered from your pressure or just a full list of stances if you like.


I'll come back to RR and John tomorrow once I get off work because I need to be sleeping soon and I want to get to T-block first, so just bare with me.

Noting your switch on Kantrip. I'd like to hear your reasoning. I agree he needs to be looked at, and that's not dependent on your flip either.

 

[JTB]

IHow am I contradicting myself? The first quote states I was focusing on TPK and RR, not TG7 at the time. Second quote states I hadn't given a read on TG7 yet, which corresponds with my quote.

This is stupid because you are looking at my posts assuming I'm scum, causing you to point out things that aren't actually scummy.

 

[T-block]

Gustave where have you been >=( Can I get an update on your reads?

JTB, the second quote does not state that you hadn't given a read yet. It states that you didn't have a read yet. You said you didn't come to a conclusion until your readthrough.

 

[JTB]

His jump on me sucked. He's stated before that he doesn't find me scummy and wouldn't support my lynch, yet once I question ausphers claim, he calls me scummy for reasons still unknown to me and votes me for something I did before stated his town read on me. he's lookking for a way to jump on my wagon and I caught it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ugh, what I hate the most about this is everyone is reliant on a scum flip for connections when I'm flipping town and no one is putting much thought into who to look at on my flip.

False, I know exactly who I am looking at on a town flip.

~

I think it is hammer time, can't think what else we're gonna do with the deadline coming up very shortly.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Misread the deadline, we got another day more than I thought.

 

[T-block]

I still want to put out reads and some stuff to look at for D2.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh, I thought he was claiming Justin

...can I do that?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Hard to say, I'll say who I'd be fine with lynching and why.

1. Auspher - What the... Is Auspher even playing? Show more of yourself. - Wouldn't mind lynching.
2. Gustave - A good-looking guy, plays great. We shouldn't lynch him!
3. John2k4 - At least he's trying. I wouldn't support this lynch.
4. JTB - You know my stance, I think he's leaning to the town side a lot more than anyone else. Has recently disappeared and not posted anything, though. Come back, JTB. Wouldn't lynch.
5. Kantrip - Despite few posts, still plays a good game, I'd say. Wouldn't want to lynch.
6. Red Ryu - I do agree with T-block's previous previous post, at some parts. I do think a leader is sort of needed, to keep everyone active and give general direction. It doesn't necessarily have to be you, though. Wouldn't vote, but wouldn't care much about a lynch.
7. T-block - All over the place. Not really have a read on him, but is known as a strong player, so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Would care about a lynch.
8. Terywj - Has only made a buttload of one-liners that make it look like he posts a lot. Nothing you've said has done anything to make me think you're trying to play for town. You still think we're in RVS after T-block makes a legit case on me and TG7 got pushed by JTB. Also, read back page 9, Kantrip has asked you a question that has still gone unanswered. So far, you've been the most useless person (bar TG7 but I'll get to that). Would be fine with a lynch, my vote on him stays.
9. TokyoGamer7 - Has never played mafia before, has requested a modkill, gets emotional. Sounds like me in my first game. I was mason with a scum there, but yeahh, TG7 still sounds more newb than scum to me. Doesn't take away that his play has started to get on my nerves, not answering questions, just repeating that he can't answer and saying you'll modkill yourself. Haven't done anything, but I can understand it's very hard to do anything in your first game. I didn't contribute one thing in my game, so I can understand, but not excuse it. Would support a lynch.
10. The Paprika Killer - Makes very small posts. Does contain content, one post made no sense to me, though

Changes from original:

1. Auspher - Voted for him, still have the exact same feelings. Claimed VT, not really sure what to think of him now. Anyone can claim VT I suppose. Would join a lynch
4. JTB - Less townie than at the time of posting my previous thoughts. T-block's case on him and the pointing out of the contradictions did make me doubt him more. Still wouldn't really want to lynch
5. Kantrip - Not playing as good anymore, but still pretty good. Wouldn't care much about his lynch, but no support yet.
6. Red Ryu - I really have no idea what to think of you. You haven't given me any reason to suspect you and have played well, so I guess you're more on the town side. Wouldn't want to see lynched.
Tery still being useless
9. TG7 - Would still support a lynch on him, if there were no other lynch.


I'm really torn at the moment about who to vote and who I want to see lynched.
Still wondering if Auspher would be a good choice or if I should rethink my stance on JTB. TG7 would be fine with me, as well as Tery.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I would bring up my thoughts in my catchups but I guess those are irrelevant now that we're post-RVS.

Kantrip, I'm still waiting on an answer.

...can I do that?

Are you really just done with this game? We don't have enough replacements for you and TokyoGamer.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Are you really just done with this game? We don't have enough replacements for you and TokyoGamer.

I think he means he wants to claim Red Ryu in a homosexual fashion but I am unsure if my suspicions will prove correct.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

ohyou.jpg

 

[Kantrip]

What did you want answered, Tery?

I wanted to get a read on T-Block, and I have the easiest time reading someone when I argue with them. I did agree with his case, but wanted to see how much he agreed with his case.

I'm ipod posting at school so I won't be here long.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I have no idea what this means.

This. I really don't think you were referring to T-Block, so.

<__<

 

[Kantrip]

Oh. You created a back-door for yourself with the use of the word "can". It didn't bother me until you went back and said "i said can, it doesn't mean i thought that" or something along those lines.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

No, the reason I used the word "can" was to offer multiple paths of action. T-Block assumed I would be holding something against Auspher regardless of claim, which I said was not the case.

 

[Deleted member]

Tery, you know what I meant by that statement.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

My point still stands. Are you just done with the game now?

 

[Deleted member]

No, I'm not. I'll be continuing.

 

[Deleted member]

1. Auspher - Voted for him, still have the exact same feelings. Claimed VT, not really sure what to think of him now. Anyone can claim VT I suppose. Would join a lynch

No, they can't.

This is a bad argument in this case specifically because of the character I claimed, who is the main character of the series. Do you honestly think that role wouldn't be given in this game? Someone would have counter-claimed by now if I were lying.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Oh no, I don't doubt your character, I doubt the alignment. I'd expect the main character of the game to have a more important role than just VT, but don't think too much of this, as I said before, I don't care much about flavour, especially this one.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It repectively it fits despite being the main character, Peanut is average, he's not a cop, he doesn't have super powers.

Only odd things about him are his psychic girlfriend, him liking cats, reading a lot, and playing video games.

Other than that, VT fits perfectly, everyone around him is far more likely to be a PR if anything, lol.

 

[John2k4]

Only odd things about him are his psychic girlfriend...

I'll make note of that, could be helpful for future claims...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I think it is safe to put JTB at L-1, I suggest people do such.

 

[John2k4]

Vote: JTB

He is at L-2.

 

[Deleted member]

Vote: JTB

Done.

 

[JTB]

Since it looks like I'm going to be the lynch, I'll leave my last words.

TG7 is town and I've already explained it.

If T-Block is scum, he would be an indy, so don't play him off as town just because he's one of the more experienced players.

Just because Auspher claims a main character does not mean it can't be a safeclaim.

Tery might be playing off his meta of being generally useless to coast as scum. Same with TPK.

Kantrip should be the first person looked at tomorrow, his complete change in his read on me is awful and I already talked about it.

I don't know about RR and frankly I don't care.

John seems more intent on getting claims out of people rather than lynching scum, look at him as well.

Tunnel vision is bad.