Guide to Meteor Smashes in Brawl

[edddddie]

I was playing Zelda the other day and I did her up-b and I reappeared close to (maybe directly over?) my opponent and they got spiked. Maybe it was a fluke, but I think if you position it just right it can spike. I'd test it now but someone is borrowing meh Brawl right now :/

The same thing happened to me. You should test this and see if it always happens this way.
Also, isn't meteor canceling in? Which spikes can be canceled and which can't?

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

The same thing happened to me. You should test this and see if it always happens this way.
Also, isn't meteor canceling in? Which spikes can be canceled and which can't?

I've never hit an oponent in the air with it, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't spike, it just has a shollow angle, though it can ricoccet off of an edge for a spike.

 

[GhettoSheep]

Don't forget Marth's uptilt spike

OP: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=142782&highlight=marth+tilt+spike
VIDEO: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CBTuSit-_Aw

 

[Ulevo]

Marths Up Smash sends characters at an ugly angle if he uses it near an edge while they're clinging. Marth doesn't need to face a specific direction, however it may be character specific. Me and my friend tried this against Lucario, and it worked well, while it did almost nothing to Lucas. What's nice about it is I don't believe damage effects how far they are sent downwards, so even at low % it sends them quite far. The opposite is also true for characters it doesn't work on. Give it a try on Lucario at least, and see if there are others it can work on. The hitbox seems to be the area around marth that has the smoke rise up when he uses it.

 

[Riot_ Fires]

As far as we've tested, Olimar can spike with his D-air as long as he has a red pikmin in hand..

Me and a friend tested this out and it's a guaranteed down spike everytime at any percent if he is holding a red pikmin..

 

[psike]

Diddy's a spiking machine for real : )

 

[kotahlicious]

yeh pits dair dont spike

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

yeh pits dair dont spike

I've done it once... the timing/sweetspot must be hellishly small.

and how does zelda's lightning kick spike in any way (not the lightning stomp... the lbair and the fair) they actually have upwards angles...

 

[kotahlicious]

I've done it once... the timing/sweetspot must be hellishly small.

hmmm really i dont think people in the pit forums know this ill make a topic there.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

hmmm really i dont think people in the pit forums know this ill make a topic there.

I never play pit in brawls, so I only did it once in 1p mode. I can't duplicate it on command, because I never cared to try... but that's the ONLY time I've seen it spike... and I'm apparently no the only one... then again, luigi's Dair spikes at such specific timing/sweetspot that it might be the same case. Good luck finding out how to do it.

 

[kotahlicious]

I never play pit in brawls, so I only did it once in 1p mode. I can't duplicate it on command, because I never cared to try... but that's the ONLY time I've seen it spike... and I'm apparently no the only one... then again, luigi's Dair spikes at such specific timing/sweetspot that it might be the same case. Good luck finding out how to do it.

thanks im trying

 

[edddddie]

hmmm really i dont think people in the pit forums know this ill make a topic there.

Pit's dair doesn't spike lol....

I got Zelda's upB to spike again, so i'm going to record it an upload it as proof

 

[Tangy]

Ganondorf's U-air can also send played down when it hits at the end of the animation. It isn't really a spike. more of a semi-spike.

 

[M.K]

As far as we've tested, Olimar can spike with his D-air as long as he has a red pikmin in hand..

Me and a friend tested this out and it's a guaranteed down spike everytime at any percent if he is holding a red pikmin..

Red, Blue, and Yellow Pikmin are the Spikers.

 

[XienZo]

All pikmin can spike, purple the strongest but hardest to aim, and the whites also spike weakly. Also, it should be a spike, not a semi-spike, it sends them straight down, with no significant horizontal movement.

 

[ssbbFICTION]

Tl's d-smash semi spikes if you DI into the first hit.

 

[kotahlicious]

we at the pit boards have come to the conclusion that pits dair spike is not re-creatable therefore shoud be removed from the list.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

we at the pit boards have come to the conclusion that pits dair spike is not re-creatable therefore shoud be removed from the list.

even if it's difficult, it's still been done before so how does that make it less of a spike? it might make it nigh useless and rarely seen, but that doesn't affect its existence.

 

[kotahlicious]

even if it's difficult, it's still been done before so how does that make it less of a spike? it might make it nigh useless and rarely seen, but that doesn't affect its existence.

imo if it isnt re-creatable its not really worth being on the list cause you can never use it.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

imo if it isnt re-creatable its not really worth being on the list cause you can never use it.

as long as it's given a disclaimer stating it's difficulty, I see no reason for it not to be on the list.

 

[RT]

I believe the very first hit and only the first hit of Dedede's dair is a very weak spike. It happened while I was playing a friendly today, and it certainly looked like a spike. If someone could test this and confirm/disprove it...

 

[thepinkpoo]

I believe the very first hit and only the first hit of Dedede's dair is a very weak spike. It happened while I was playing a friendly today, and it certainly looked like a spike. If someone could test this and confirm/disprove it...

it sends downa t a low angle, so its probly a semi spike, not an actual spike.

 

[ignore the fire]

I'm not sure if its considered a spike, but peach's dsmash spikes an opponent clinging on a ledge at a pretty fast speed.

 

[Browny]

i just spiked the CPU today with sonics d-tilt while they hang off the ledge. its very rare anyone hags on the ledge after invincibility frames so no wonder people havent seen it before

 

[Tenki]

i just spiked the CPU today with sonics d-tilt while they hang off the ledge. its very rare anyone hags on the ledge after invincibility frames so no wonder people havent seen it before

are you sure it wasn't a stage spike?

cause then we'd have to add spring spiking to the list lul. I'll go check that right now.

Sonic's F-air sometimes launches at a semi-spike angle, but I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact situation for it - height, direction of movement, placement in Sonic (guessing sweet spot is the best, but it could be around the hands for the semi-spike), grounded opponent vs midair... etc

His f-tilt sometimes gives a spike effect, but I think that could just be on grounded opponents. I have done some semispikes with it (first hit only) but I'm not sure of the exact conditions for that either, other than Sonic between low aerial opponent and ledge.

U-tilt has a downward motion for comboing people before the last hit. It's possible to 'tip' it so that only the first hit (sends downward) works, but it's definitely meant to combo into the last hit, so it's probably too weak for practical spike usage.

I'll post it here when I can get them to work somewhat consistently.

 

[Rhyfelwyr]

Every hit of Yoshi's D-air is a spike. It's obvious to see if you put the computer at 999%

 

[Elec Man EXE]

Description for Charizard's Dair is wrong (a copy of the desc. for his Bair). Should be something about stomping his feet downward.

And yah, all Pikmin colors spike with Dair as long as you hit in the right spot. Straight down, so its a proper spike, though its possible hitting at a different angle could be a semi-spike.

 

[edddddie]

Description for Charizard's Dair is wrong (a copy of the desc. for his Bair). Should be something about stomping his feet downward.

And yah, all Pikmin colors spike with Dair as long as you hit in the right spot. Straight down, so its a proper spike, though its possible hitting at a different angle could be a semi-spike.

I thought it only spiked with purple Pikmin?

 

[The Chuff]

Zelda's D-tilt seems to be a weak spike in the middle of the leg, but it's really hard to hit because of autosweet-spotting. It does work when they're getting up from the ledge or are right above it, but rolling avoids that. Meh.

 

[RT]

it sends downa t a low angle, so its probly a semi spike, not an actual spike.

Ah, well it seemed like a spike at the time. Ah well...

 

[The_Dyne]

I've seen Olimar's red Pikmin spike, and I think yellow too.

 

[RazeveX]

SEMI SPIKE FOR METAKNIGHT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

thats right. when the shuttle loop hits with the very back hitbox at the start, it sends the opponent completely horizontal (backwards).

EDIT: Also, if done right, it can send slightly downward as well, but if done wrong will send upwards. Very difficult to do correctly, though.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

I think it send completely horizontal and the up or down might be DI

 

[Grunt]

I've seen Olimar's red Pikmin spike, and I think yellow too.

they all spike with a sweetspotted Dair... i think.

 

[King Zeal]

Wario's bike will also Spike if an opponent hanging onto the ledge attempts to jump upwards. I did this to a Ganondorf player a few days ago.

 

[Fire.]

Wait, how is Charizard's bair a full spike? I'm pretty sure it has horizontal knockback, possibly a semi-spike though.

 

[MysticKenji]

Zelda's entire dtilt spikes/meteors, not just the foot.

 

[ShadowLink84]

I only see 1 spike for Marth when he has 3.

Utilt (ending part of animation)
Forward B (third swing, down variation)

 

[trampoline BOY]

wow you definitely put some time into this kamekasu.

PROPS.

 

[Browny]

put sonic's dair semi spike back...

Its amazingly strong if you hit it with the sweetspot. even the likes of toon link and luigi cant do anything to get back on the stage if they are hit by that off the stage (which of course sonic can recover from every time thanks to the spring, so that shouldnt be taken into account)