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KERO
for the idea, I wouldn't have thought of it myself 
Wow, that`s awesome! When I was testing charged WS -> running SS, I always tried to hit the opponent while they were stuck in the shuriken, which was not possible, so I thought it didn`t combo at above 5%. I hadn`t thought of hitting them in the air after getting launched by the last WS hit. I`ll add it to the OP.Water Shuriken (fully charged) > Running Shadow Sneak | 0-75% | 19-22%
Wouldn't surprise me if it works until higher percents than that, but I'm just coming short of making it true combo in the 75-80% range (and sometimes whiffing because of Sheik aerial hurtboxes). Shoutouts to @
Funkermonster
. Jab cancels might not be true combos but they're a great setup for fsmash/grab and I use them religiously.
Good idea. I use them pretty often, so I don`t know why I forgot to mention them. I`ve added them to the "Useful Strings" section.
How well do these work online with the slight input delay?
There`s about 20 frames (1/3 of a second) between Jab2 and Fsmash during which the opponent can escape or shield, which is more than enough time for them to react to it if they are expecting it. But normally, the answer to Jab is DI away, not shield, so chances are that they will not expect it the first time you use it and will get hit by the Fsmash. That`s why it should be saved as a surprise kill move and used sparingly, otherwise the opponent will avoid it every time.
Thanks for the info! I will start practicing this.
Yeah, it works even against small characters if you do it a bit differently. When you land Uair, you can time your fast fall so that you`re almost standing on the ground when the last hit connects. This will allow you to act almost immediately after the Uair and follow it up with another one.
I don`t see how FF Bair combos into Utilt. I know it has a weak spike effect if you fast fall out of the last hit, but I still can`t perform the Dair -> FF Bair -> Utilt combo you mentioned. Or was it a mistake and you meant FF Uair instead of FF Bair?
Lavani
This footstool mechanic is really great for greninja's Dair's.
And not only Dairs, but Nairs as well as shown in this video from the Advanced Techniques thread:
We`ve known about the Fair -> Jab and Fair -> Dtilt combos, I just didn`t add them yet because I didn`t test the % range when they work. But I didn`t know about the Fair -> Fair and Fair -> Dash Attack combos, so great job finding those. Today I did a lot of testing with Fair and it turns out that it has almost as much combo potential as Nair. Here are all the Fair combos I`ve added:
David Galanos
I feel like f-air will get pretty predictable especially after doing it more than once. It works and is great but since Greninja can't actually short hop and f-air without waiting a second to f-air it makes it a little easy to shield. Same with N-air, but not as much since it doesn't really have start up like f-air. I can see f-air to grab being useful, but not used too often, or at least just made sure it's not gonna be predictableWe`ve known about the Fair -> Jab and Fair -> Dtilt combos, I just didn`t add them yet because I didn`t test the % range when they work. But I didn`t know about the Fair -> Fair and Fair -> Dash Attack combos, so great job finding those. Today I did a lot of testing with Fair and it turns out that it has almost as much combo potential as Nair. Here are all the Fair combos I`ve added:
Combo moves.......................................% at which the combo works.........Total Damage
Fair -> Jab................................................................0-20%..................................24%
Fair -> Dtilt................................................................0-20%..................................21%
Fair -> Grab -> Uthrow -> Uair...................................9-40%..................................28%
Fair -> Ftilt................................................................10-30%..................................20%
Fair -> Fsmash.........................................................13-30%..................................28%
Fair -> Dash Attack -> Fair.........................................26-36%..................................35%
Fair -> Fair................................................................45-55%..................................28%
I noticed that when using Fair, it is best to time it so that you land at the same time as the Fair connects. If you get it right, you will have almost no end lag. This is the only way I managed to make the Fair -> Fair combo work against Sheik. Of course since it requires practically frame perfect timing, you won`t pull it off every time in a match, but the closer you end up to the ground when Fair connects, the less lag you`ll have.
Fair is a much better move than I thought at first since the combos it allows us to do are some of Greninja`s strongest and most reliable combos, especially:
Fair -> Grab -> Uthrow -> Uair: That`s right, we can combo into grab from Fair and it is not only very easy to do, but also inescapable regardless of DI. We can then choose any throw we want. I listed the most damaging one: Uthrow -> Uair.
Fair -> Fsmash: I`ve been using this a lot recently, but I never thought it was a true combo until I tested it today. It is also very easy to perform since the opponent gets sent right into range of Fsmash after the Fair at 13-30%.
Fair -> Dash Attack -> Fair: This one is harder to perform and works only at a very specific % range, but it is the most damaging combo we can do with Fair. This combo carries the opponent across the whole stage and can be even followed up by another Dash Attack -> Fair if the opponent DI`s towards the stage after the second Fair.
And of course Fair -> Jab and Fair -> Dtilt which are very reliable and unDI-able early game damage builders similar to Nair -> Jab and Nair -> Dtilt. And just like Nair -> Dtilt, Fair -> Dtilt can also be followed up by a grab against fast fallers for an extra 14% damage.
And since everything that Fair can do, Nair can do as well, I also added Nair -> Fsmash, Nair -> Dash Attack -> Fair and Nair -> Grab combos.
Edit:
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The Uair spike is easiest to perform against CPUs set to jump. All you have to do is jump, hit them with Uair on your way down and press down to fast fall out of the Uair before the 5th hit connects. Once you learn to do it consistently against jumping CPUs, try to learn to do it from an Utilt which requires very precise timing if you want it to be a true combo.
I tested them against Mario just now and they all work. They even work longer than against Sheik.
The timing is very similar to SHFF Nair and they both actually hit at the same time. You just start Fair a bit sooner so it is easier to react to, but both Fair and Nair hit just before you land from a short hop which you fast fall as soon as possible, so it takes the same time in both cases. Also since Fair has more range, you can start the short hop from farther away. Besides the higher damage, that`s its main advantage over SHFF Nair. So if you`re close to the opponent, use Nair and if you`re farther and need to quickly punish an unsafe move they used or just space them out, you can use SHFF Fair.
It is in the Nair combo section since you can always start it with a Nair. The longest Utilt -> Uair spike true combo I`ve found is:
You can N-air to up tilt?? Wow that's helpful, I've been trying to hard for the up tilt a lot of the time
