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Greater Toronto Area Thread - The other other other other other other other other Pokemon Thread
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JPOBS
Smash Hero
yea for sure. we can hit it up.
and nah man zombies rapeesss. made it to level 31 last night by myself. imma go for the solo world record over reading week.
and nah man zombies rapeesss. made it to level 31 last night by myself. imma go for the solo world record over reading week.
Nightmare.
Smash Cadet
another tournament up in Ottawa 
If anyone is in the area you should drop by for the day!
Montreal came and swept us last time, but that @#%! ain't gonna fly again...
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297604
If anyone is in the area you should drop by for the day!Montreal came and swept us last time, but that @#%! ain't gonna fly again...
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297604
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Pinocchio is funny.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
yeah i read about that paradox
it's pretty sick
it's pretty sick
idea
Smash Master
so i tried playing melee today and my wrist felt fine.
the only reason i would be 'unable' to play is if the cast i get (in a day or two) is too big and makes it difficult to hold the controller.
in which case i'll just play anyway and have a really good john. i might as well, i can't get a refund now.
the only reason i would be 'unable' to play is if the cast i get (in a day or two) is too big and makes it difficult to hold the controller.
in which case i'll just play anyway and have a really good john. i might as well, i can't get a refund now.
idea
Smash Master
unknown522
Some guy
wow, those PS were crazy. He went under the other lasers every time.
Also, we finally played Super Meat Boy at kurtis' place. It's a pretty damn good game.
Also, we finally played Super Meat Boy at kurtis' place. It's a pretty damn good game.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
lol that was pretty but m2k sorta has a weird anti spacie game with sheik... after watching kk so many times lol
have you ever played his sheik, ryan?
have you ever played his sheik, ryan?
idea
Smash Master
yeah, i was playing it a lot a week or two ago. some of the levels are so hard...i'm on the last level of the light world, but there's a trick with it at the end that i keep forgetting about, so i keep getting to the very end then doing that part wrong. sucks.
but even dark world 2 or 3 is harder than the last light world.
WIGI
Smash Champion
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I don't like Eggy's lasering vs Sheik.
edit: I should learn how to PS or something. Someday. lolol.
edit: I should learn how to PS or something. Someday. lolol.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
lasering with fox can be so overrated sometimes
also david why you like teaming with peaches that much? lol
also david why you like teaming with peaches that much? lol
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
because of the d-smash
idea
Smash Master
honestly, he seemed like he was playing pretty lazily.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
lmao... gta!? go to ottawa?!?
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
lol true sayy
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
How do you guys feel about platform camp vs Falco?
I think it's alright because you're not being shot at but it also kind of fails because then you're above Falco, which means he can **** you.
I think it's alright because you're not being shot at but it also kind of fails because then you're above Falco, which means he can **** you.
idea
Smash Master
use your first two or three jumps to float above lasers but out of range of falco's other moves.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
i think fox is the only character that can platform camp falco realistically.
lol at kyle.
lol at kyle.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Yeah obviously I'm talking about Sheik / Fox / characters that can realistically do it.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
platform drop bair? =D
JPOBS
Smash Hero
i don't think sheik is that good at it. but i don't play her much so i dunno.
her dashing aorund on platforms is kinda...wierd..cuz of the nature of her dash
and her low aerial mobility and weak priority below her makes transversing from one platform to the other a vulnerability. (or atleast it does to me because thats when im usually like ok she in the air now free hit)
the angle of her needles is good for stop falco from charging her randomly tho
what do u think david?
her dashing aorund on platforms is kinda...wierd..cuz of the nature of her dash
and her low aerial mobility and weak priority below her makes transversing from one platform to the other a vulnerability. (or atleast it does to me because thats when im usually like ok she in the air now free hit)
the angle of her needles is good for stop falco from charging her randomly tho
what do u think david?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
@ Jack
i mean, it's good. but it gets old real fast.
move out of way > free move incidentally is also good and counters predictable nonsense like that.
see, the trouble i have with the "platform camp > character" theory is that to have any sort of presence you kind of have to come off the platform with a move or whatever at some point. and it's relatively easy for falco to position himself in such a manner that he can stuff your move, or simply avoid it.
that you're coming straight down also limits the amount of ground you can effectively cover.
i used to think platform camp = ggnore falco but it really doesn't feel like that. does it put the game into a more neutral position than being shot at? sure. but it doesn't grant freebie approaches or whatever. he still seems to have an adequate defense. maybe my platform game sucks but i think he's actually well equipped to deal with some of this garbage. some of his moves hit through platforms when he SHs, which is usually a pretty good defense against it.
@ Tristan
her platform camping is alright. her priority being above her and to the sides can be a problem but she has some alright stuff, namely wd back off platform fair, and platform drop fair, and stuff like that, which can stuff some approaches. the needles are the main draw. however, the shortcoming of the needles are that it's pretty easy to position yourself outside their range, and since she has to jump to shoot them, it's not really that hard to get past them.
it's useful to be good at it, but you're not going to beat falco on platforms alone. you're just not positioned to get any important hits if you do it that way. at some point you have to fight him on the ground.
the absolute best use of chilling on platforms with sheik vs falco is to get falco to FH laser when you charge needles on platform. then you just cancel and run off waveland forward and try to stop him from shooting from there. even better if he's ******** and lands on the platform to do that Isai drop crap, which really just lags him more. it's most useful on big levels like dreamland and pokemon. fails entirely if falco is somewhat intelligent and just waits, unless you somehow start outcamping him (which should be impossible).
i mean, it's good. but it gets old real fast.
move out of way > free move incidentally is also good and counters predictable nonsense like that.
see, the trouble i have with the "platform camp > character" theory is that to have any sort of presence you kind of have to come off the platform with a move or whatever at some point. and it's relatively easy for falco to position himself in such a manner that he can stuff your move, or simply avoid it.
that you're coming straight down also limits the amount of ground you can effectively cover.
i used to think platform camp = ggnore falco but it really doesn't feel like that. does it put the game into a more neutral position than being shot at? sure. but it doesn't grant freebie approaches or whatever. he still seems to have an adequate defense. maybe my platform game sucks but i think he's actually well equipped to deal with some of this garbage. some of his moves hit through platforms when he SHs, which is usually a pretty good defense against it.
@ Tristan
her platform camping is alright. her priority being above her and to the sides can be a problem but she has some alright stuff, namely wd back off platform fair, and platform drop fair, and stuff like that, which can stuff some approaches. the needles are the main draw. however, the shortcoming of the needles are that it's pretty easy to position yourself outside their range, and since she has to jump to shoot them, it's not really that hard to get past them.
it's useful to be good at it, but you're not going to beat falco on platforms alone. you're just not positioned to get any important hits if you do it that way. at some point you have to fight him on the ground.
the absolute best use of chilling on platforms with sheik vs falco is to get falco to FH laser when you charge needles on platform. then you just cancel and run off waveland forward and try to stop him from shooting from there. even better if he's ******** and lands on the platform to do that Isai drop crap, which really just lags him more. it's most useful on big levels like dreamland and pokemon. fails entirely if falco is somewhat intelligent and just waits, unless you somehow start outcamping him (which should be impossible).
JPOBS
Smash Hero
yea i was gonna say, if he lands on the plat with lasers and tries to isai drop through thats when he get boned.
why'd u bring up platform camping falco btw, just curious.
why'd u bring up platform camping falco btw, just curious.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
mostly 'cuz the falcos are saying it like obliterates him
and i was curious as to what EC canada thinks about this
and i was curious as to what EC canada thinks about this
Acidile
Smash Journeyman
OH GOD PLATFORM CAMPING
I absolutely hate it, mainly because the entire way I play Sheik revolves around super-predictable platform movement. I think I'd actually be sooo much better if I just learned to play grounded.
My problems aside, I really don't think it's that great. It's mainly due to the fact that there's a huge disparity in payoffs for landing hits when sheik is on the platforms. Landing spaced aerials out of platform drops CAN be very effective, but it rarely leads into a completely guaranteed combo. If a Falco predicts or counters alot of platform movement, a well placed utilt/shine can lead into some brutal combos.
The only real exception to this is really strong needle play, but needle-grab is HARDLY guaranteed, AND requires charged needles. I don't even think it works against really good people. Not to mention on the stages you will probably play against falco on in a set, it's not really that great.
Outplaying Falco on the ground leads to wayyy better positions for Sheik, and really isn't super hard as long as you can properly deal with lasers.
I don't think it's TOO bad at low percents, and I think platform movement is a totally needed OPTION for Sheiks. But as a general playstyle against Falco, I don't think that it's very good.
I absolutely hate it, mainly because the entire way I play Sheik revolves around super-predictable platform movement. I think I'd actually be sooo much better if I just learned to play grounded.
My problems aside, I really don't think it's that great. It's mainly due to the fact that there's a huge disparity in payoffs for landing hits when sheik is on the platforms. Landing spaced aerials out of platform drops CAN be very effective, but it rarely leads into a completely guaranteed combo. If a Falco predicts or counters alot of platform movement, a well placed utilt/shine can lead into some brutal combos.
The only real exception to this is really strong needle play, but needle-grab is HARDLY guaranteed, AND requires charged needles. I don't even think it works against really good people. Not to mention on the stages you will probably play against falco on in a set, it's not really that great.
Outplaying Falco on the ground leads to wayyy better positions for Sheik, and really isn't super hard as long as you can properly deal with lasers.
I don't think it's TOO bad at low percents, and I think platform movement is a totally needed OPTION for Sheiks. But as a general playstyle against Falco, I don't think that it's very good.
idea
Smash Master
meh, i pretty much agree with david. it's still pretty easy for falco to coax you off the platform. and if you move to the top platform that's not as menacing as usual since falco jumps so high. plus he can do that thing where he jumps up, shines, wavedashes down and continues shield pressure as usual (if you shield...which you might have to do if needles miss).
sauc3
Smash Lord
yeah, beat him in a mm at ROM 2. He kept taking me back to yoshis
damn. Can't wait to get that far.
meh *shakes hand sideways*
-Ryan Ford
unknown522
Some guy
lol, my first time playing jumper 1:
http://www.youtube.com/user/unknown522#p/u
The later videos get better.
http://www.youtube.com/user/unknown522#p/u
The later videos get better.
Acidile
Smash Journeyman
Also, are people going to be anywhere playing tomorrow night? Depending on how my schoolwork progresses I might be around to come chill/practice/etc.
I know a few of us are playing in Oakville on Thursday.
I know a few of us are playing in Oakville on Thursday.
unknown522
Some guy
no one as far as I know. I'm going home tmrw
idea
Smash Master
you can hear him too if you turn up the volume.
that looks fun, too bad i couldn't come. by the way, i have one of those controllers that works on pc games, so you can play super meat boy with a controller next time you're here.
that looks fun, too bad i couldn't come. by the way, i have one of those controllers that works on pc games, so you can play super meat boy with a controller next time you're here.
Summonedfist
Smash Lord
@ david
what if you mixed it up with platform drop wavelands =D
and chase the "move away" with nair
what if you mixed it up with platform drop wavelands =D
and chase the "move away" with nair
Nightmare™
Smash Ace
Mvc3 is sooooo good
weon - X
Smash Ace
i like platform camp against falco as long as you're not DIRECTLY above him its all good
im exited for this weekend
im exited for this weekend