See, Trist is like, textbook example of an IE-first 100% of the time ranged AD to me. No AD ratios, huge range, huge free AS. I think BT rush mostly just makes sense on like, Vayne, Graves, Ezreal, Sivir and Caitlyn.
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Wriggles is also good in team settings for double wriggle early dragon plays. Doran's just have a lot of great benefits for allowing you to stay in lane longer (lifesteal, hp, AD). If you think your team is stronger for early dragon fights wriggle's can work there.
Almost all ranged AD champs can 1 shot caster creeps with AD quints/reds/masteries and double Dorans.
Almost all ranged AD champs can 1 shot caster creeps with AD quints/reds/masteries and double Dorans.
Yes it is Omni. And Mogwai has a point, BT can benefit some of the AD champs that have good AD ratios on highly bursty skills (the newer ones/Graves) and if your teamcomp is more geared toward poke than all ins (where your damage will come down primarily to AA damage vs cast damage).
Generally though, when in doubt, IE and PD it out.
Generally though, when in doubt, IE and PD it out.
BT needs stacks to more efficient than IE, BT without stacks isn't that great of an item. Some AD carries choose to go BT first because they have low range and feel they need a decent amount of lifesteal to survive the fight (graves vayne sivir etc.), going IE on them I think is fine but it's up to you. Doublelift goes the BT route on those champions, a large portion of other ad carry players go IE.
Wriggles PD build is meant for high mobility, jungle invasion and early-mid game dominance. A champion like kogmaw will still do a lot of damage.
Wriggles PD build is meant for high mobility, jungle invasion and early-mid game dominance. A champion like kogmaw will still do a lot of damage.
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so what should Miss fortune rush then? (shes the only Ranged AD I can effectively play)
I think she can go either way. Double up and her ult interact nicely with the raw AD from BT, but the steroid on W plays best with the AD/crit combo on IE.
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adumbrodeus
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So, metagolem fiora, wriggles, fratmogs, wit's end. Lunge to their carry and ult them. Then clean-up if they're still alive. Probably last whisper to follow up if the game goes on that long.
I had a jungle AD blitz completely destroy this other team a few days ago.
Pleasantly surprised.
friend confirmed that jax can dodge her ult, and panths passive blocks the whole thingAnyone want to do some jax vs fiora testing later?
DallasPhat
Smash Master
YES, dphat theory crafting too good.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Man I should be like 1600 elo. I just haven't played ranked in months due to me wanted to play other games XD
wtf, that's real dumb. does the ult deal all it's damage at the end as opposed to in increments?
supposedly it's more or less the same thing as brands ult before they fixed it where if it got spellshielded it wouldn't bounce
so if fiora ults a dodging jax in the middle of a team or a pantheon with his passive, her ult won't do any damage to anyone
now that i think about it this explains why my ult didnt do any damage and *********** me from a triple kill one game
zzz, ****ing genius riot...
does jax dodge dodge parrrley, mystic shot now? never thought to check when they changed it.
does jax dodge dodge parrrley, mystic shot now? never thought to check when they changed it.
takieddine
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You guys are all FEEDER NOOBS...
DallasPhat
Smash Master
It does, anything with on-hit effect can be dodged by jax that's why i was wondering if that was true for fiora ult.
AD Blitz is mucho scary.
Y'know, for all these questions you guys ask about Fiora's ult, why not just try it in game next time? I mean, you all have the game...
DallasPhat
Smash Master
I would test this if I owned Fiora. Yo espy instead of being a **** and not contributing anything, maybe you should go back to watching your ponies.AD Blitz is mucho scary.
Y'know, for all these questions you guys ask about Fiora's ult, why not just try it in game next time? I mean, you all have the game...
I can do both, scrub.
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Just to add on to the IE, BT, wriggles discussion a bit.
If I've learned anything, it's that BT on Trist & Cait are really terrible. 1. They're so weak mid-game that you can't really afford to get anything other than IE if you want to make an impact. 2. They have long enough range in fights mid-game that you don't even need the extra lifesteal you'd get on BT as opposed to just getting a vamp scepter, and then going into inf edge. And 3. They scale way better with autoattacks than AD abilities anyways.
And support teemo is entirely focused on winning early-game and pushing that large initial advantage. Really need a good team to take advantage of it tho.
If I've learned anything, it's that BT on Trist & Cait are really terrible. 1. They're so weak mid-game that you can't really afford to get anything other than IE if you want to make an impact. 2. They have long enough range in fights mid-game that you don't even need the extra lifesteal you'd get on BT as opposed to just getting a vamp scepter, and then going into inf edge. And 3. They scale way better with autoattacks than AD abilities anyways.
And support teemo is entirely focused on winning early-game and pushing that large initial advantage. Really need a good team to take advantage of it tho.
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Bt terrible item except on everyone not a ranged carry
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i hate bt. ie vamp scepter all day, some cases i will consider it tho. more likely to get it on vayne.Bt terrible item except on everyone not a ranged carry
wtf that's week 1
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Jungle volibear viable right now?
All I've seen of him is Snoopeh with a double jungle.
All I've seen of him is Snoopeh with a double jungle.
He can do it okay but he's very slow until Wriggle's.
Faster junglers can counterjungle the crap out of you. His ganks are strong though.
Faster junglers can counterjungle the crap out of you. His ganks are strong though.
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People give me weird looks when I try to jungle Voli, but it works.
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Jungle Blitz is legit.
i used to think it was op
then i played him and found out his scaling is kinda weak
also his clear times are slowwwww
ganks are boss tho
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Does anyone here have the Almost Prom King Amumu skin? I need to take a screen shot of the Chinese art for it. I already have my league to show the Chinese artwork, I just need someone to play a custom game for like 1 second and leave after the game loads cause I just need to screen shot the pic.
You know when in champ selection, if you own amumu, you can "browse" through skins of that character.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
I don't own Amumu, and it has to be when the characters are loading for me to get the picture right. It doesn't show the Chinese are when they are not loading.
Z'zgashi
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Xaltis
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No it can't be the big background one. It has to specifically be the loading screen pic one. I can't find it anywhere.
It'd be like this one. http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/4/4e/Amumu_AlmostPromKingLoading.jpg But the Chinese artwork instead.
It'd be like this one. http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/4/4e/Amumu_AlmostPromKingLoading.jpg But the Chinese artwork instead.