Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Mogwai]

back on track, let's talk about wukong.

i would say something but it would be useless, so I'll just propose the idea of talking about wukong and wait here with bated breath for jpak to deliver the knowledge on my monkey lord and savior (p.s. yes, wukong is monkey jesus).

 

[UTDZac]

@Dphat, I actually know a lot about league. It's just you guys pick up on silly stuff and laugh at me for it

Jpak knows more though. #1 troll morde bot lane that wins games.

 

[DarkDragoon]

back on track, let's talk about wukong.

i would say something but it would be useless, so I'll just propose the idea of talking about wukong and wait here with bated breath for jpak to deliver the knowledge on my monkey lord and savior (p.s. yes, wukong is monkey jesus).

Wukong OP.
Any character that can juke by standing still is OP.
-DD

 

[PhantomX]

Lol mogwai knows I'm joking, I'm just poking fun at players who I think are good.
]

My heart

Also Wukong from my experience is solid, and fits very very well into hard engage teamcomps b/c of the ridiculous damage his ultimate does. He is, however, very boring to play, and loses to either sustainable top laners that can heal off his harass, or people that can trade well with him.

 

[Mogwai]

in my experiences playing him, it's hard to trade well. last game I played vs. a rumble and he couldn't really trade favorably with me so it turned into free farm once he got his WotA online, and freefarmed monkey > freefarmed rat-mech in teamfights. seems like he loses sustain or balls out low level dudes like Garen/Panth, but can get by anywhere else and then has crazy mid/late game.

 

[IShouldBeStudying]

I can play most solo tops well-ish.

These are my 4 best:
Irelia, GP, Udyr, and Kennen
I'm picking up teemo as another option.

Do I leave any major holes in my solo top line-up? (consider counterpicking, team-comp, etc)

Thanks in advance

 

[DallasPhat]

Someone give me AD advice .

 

[Dojo]

DMG: Hey guys check this out.

*flashes into bush*
...
*nobody there*

 

[Mogwai]

Someone give me AD advice .

only advice I have on bot lane is that you're better off afking in base than laning with a nunu with promote.

 

[PhantomX]

Inb4 Dphat says "first time you ever given good advice, Wes."

 

[DallasPhat]

Still didn't give me ad advice so his advice doesn't apply to me and thus is poor advice.

 

[UTDZac]

best AD advice, freakin dont team fight mid/late game.

 

[bassem6]

Someone give me AD advice .

1)Graves/sivir/vayne/trist Soraka/sona.

2)afk farm for 25 mins

3) I-edge+PD

4)???

5)/win game

I hate playing ad. Its fun whenever you actually start dealing damage with your items but before that its just a farmfest (assuming your support puts wards down in the right spots)

Mid is fun. Somebody usually dies by level 6 :D

Btw, opinions on the top mids right now?

Im thinking ahri,ziggs,cass,kennen. People are just now starting to ban kennen and cass sometimes. A combination of ziggs and/or ahri are usually banned.

 

[john!]

Here's my list of people I would not take advice from the swf thread.
Utdzac (good player but knows nothing about the game)
Dangr (makes everything complicated not original very textbook)
Trollpak(Jpak evil personality)
Safehaven (good player awful theorey crafter)
Mogwai (if he talks about something outside of top lane, heck would avoid all advice if he isn't talking about pantheon/gp)
Shaya (god damnit I'm tired about reading awful aussie ideas)
Lastly avoid advice from me if you play like a poon, I tend to play overally aggressive and most smashers play like vaginas.

this is like over half of the good players in this thread lol

ask me anything about chogath

thoughts on the cho vs singed matchup?

i've played maybe 10 singed games lately and won my lane every time. he seems unstoppable once he hits 6.

 

[Turazrok]

Dphat takes my advice because I am a man

 

[DallasPhat]

With popularity with corki, sivir and graves I feel like vayne popularity is drastitically decreasing.

 

[Mogwai]

solution: move the vayne to top lane and let her body top.

 

[DMG]

Singed loses kinda, mostly even but there's no real advantage for him to have. Like eventually neither of them will care about the other and it will be a farm fest, but there's no point early on that you'd expect Singed to kill Chogath or force him back. Even assuming Cho had no way to deal with getting flung, his sustain is good enough to keep him out of trouble.


AD NP NP

15 AD FLAT ARMOR FLAT/SCALING MR

FARM HARASS AVOID HARASS HAVE GEWD SUPPORT

 

[DallasPhat]

Watch other team respond by sending bot top and deny there vayne.

 

[Dojo]

Because all games in solo que are that coordinated.

 

[DallasPhat]

2k Elo they should be.

 

[DMG]

OH YEAH Dojo thats not what happened

I said "Hey Dphat wanna see something funny?"

Went in, know I had a good laugh when I got there

 

[Dojo]

Man half the time you're not even 2k so SHUT UP.

edit:

Regardless of how it exactly went down, you thought you had a hard read and failed. GG.

 

[Mogwai]

Watch other team respond by sending bot top and deny there vayne.

there = the or their?

either way you're dumb.

and so what? vayne'll farm better in a 1v2 than most tops who you have now sent bot to give their (see, I know my theirs!) ranged AD 100% free farm and reign over the lane closest to dragon. all I'm trying to say is that vayne solo better than most people are willing to admit IMO.

 

[bassem6]

With popularity with corki, sivir and graves I feel like vayne popularity is drastitically decreasing.

Yeah thats true, I still feel like vayne is one of the best late game carries though, and her kit is still really nice despite the nerfs(stealth plus knockback/stun so nice vs tanky deeps)

solution: move the vayne to top lane and let her body top.

Ive seen this a few times, this could work pretty well depending on the top. I feel like anyone with a gap closer or gp/kennen/rumble would poop on her though just because she has no sustain in her kit and is squishy.

Man half the time you're not even 2k so SHUT UP.

Yo dojo, if you want to get up there, youre going to have to work on landing those kennen q's man

 

[MacD]

MacD wanna duo tonight???!?!????
-DD

oh boy oh boy, but i'll probably be laggin but we'll see

Damn macd want some fries with that salt?

i like my salt pure

back on track, let's talk about wukong.

i would say something but it would be useless, so I'll just propose the idea of talking about wukong and wait here with bated breath for jpak to deliver the knowledge on my monkey lord and savior (p.s. yes, wukong is monkey jesus).

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[Dojo]

OH YEAH BASSEM, I forgot you up there too right?

 

[fkacyan]

Idk why Vayne would see less use, she's easily the hardest snowball AD carry in the game, once she gets Thirster + PD there's really no way for a given character to beat her in teamfight because of tumble stealth allowing her to position really easily.

At higher levels of play she has counters but at low levels of play she can snowball from just one early kill in lane.

 

[DallasPhat]

OH YEAH BASSEM, I forgot you up there too right?

Lmfao got'em, and my opinion of vayne is that she maybe a strong late game carry but alot of the current ads scale better early to mid and have comparable late game prowess.

 

[Mogwai]

vayne should do fine vs. kennen/rumble/gp tbh. having range and tumble makes rumble/kennen harass less effective (they're both essentially melee counters), and it's not like GP's ever going to get to stick to you, so all you need is to be specced such that his poke doesn't knock you out of lane early and then you should be able to body him. this is mostly theorycrafting, only seen a few vaynes top, but from how she plays in a solo I don't see any of those being really terrible for her.

Pantheon would body her and bursty dudes with gap closers like wukong, xin, jarman would probably give her issues too, but I think she's still really good vs. a lot of modern tops.

 

[DMG]

You could do the same with Sivir too. Sivir top is also ****ing annoying. I'd prefer that over Vayne most of the time.

 

[bassem6]

OH YEAH BASSEM, I forgot you up there too right?

LOL, closer than you boyo

Lmfao got'em, and my opinion of vayne is that she maybe a strong late game carry but alot of the current ads scale better early to mid and have comparable late game prowess.

yeah thats true. You dont even usually get to late game in solo queue so other carries would probably be better.

vayne should do fine vs. kennen/rumble/gp tbh. having range and tumble makes rumble/kennen harass less effective (they're both essentially melee counters), and it's not like GP's ever going to get to stick to you, so all you need is to be specced such that his poke doesn't knock you out of lane early and then you should be able to body him. this is mostly theorycrafting, only seen a few vaynes top, but from how she plays in a solo I don't see any of those being really terrible for her.

Pantheon would body her and bursty dudes with gap closers like wukong, xin, jarman would probably give her issues too, but I think she's still really good vs. a lot of modern tops.

hmm yeah I could see that. I want to try it now lol.

 

[Deleted member]

this is like over half of the good players in this thread lol



thoughts on the cho vs singed matchup?

i've played maybe 10 singed games lately and won my lane every time. he seems unstoppable once he hits 6.

i have like a 90%+ track record of ****** singed in solo q ranked, maybe they just all suck

 

[DMG]

It's not an easy MU for singed besides that later point where they freefarm lol. Cho doesn't give enough of a **** for Singed to bother him, plain and simple. Singed has to run up to Cho, fling him, AND hope he chases Singed for Singed to win lol.

 

[Deleted member]

it depends on what item they start with and how quick they get cata, but my strategy is just to feast them early on, land very easy ruptures since 95%+ of singes run predictably/stupidly around/ melee range = easy ruptures too

then feast again when its back up so they die

if they start boots then their cata is delayed, if they start blue crystal they can't dodge ruptures, if they start regrowth --> philo, they cannot win without a gank

if u get ahead of singed at any point in laning phase they are pretty likely to get screwed

==

the thing is though, i may triple kill my lane, but singed just farms top for 10 more minutes than usual and catches up

 

[Tmacc]

You could do the same with Sivir too. Sivir top is also ****ing annoying. I'd prefer that over Vayne most of the time.

Sivir can effing do everything man.

Also, finally on my way to Gold. Have finally started to carry lanes through jungling, warding, oracles, timers, and general captaining. Took me awhile to learn I can carry in these ways outside of my general score.

Dphat would be proud (although I'm sure to you guys, Gold is nothing, lol).

 

[PhantomX]

For people that hate Riven, Vayne is just about the hardest counter possible to her. With Tumble and condemn and her range there is 0 way for Riven to close the gap on Vayne.

I don't see Vayne doing well against Kennen though. His AA outranges hers, and he can get the W procs for free damage that she won't be able to handle for long.

 

[Mogwai]

You could do the same with Sivir too. Sivir top is also ****ing annoying. I'd prefer that over Vayne most of the time.

Sivir top is annoying, but that's mostly it. She doesn't hit as hard, have the burst mobility of vayne or provide any CC. If spell shield will win the lane, she *****, otherwise, meh, I'm not terribly impressed. She also needs to build like a standard AD to do crazy damage, whereas Vayne's base damages are stupid enough that she can open Wriggle's -> Triforce and still ****ing truck people in teamfights just off W and R.

i have like a 90%+ track record of ****** singed in solo q ranked, maybe they just all suck

I have very little experience in the matchup but from my experiences in it, it goes from cho advantage -> singed advantage around level 5 and eventually singed just starts bodying him and it turns into locking down a teamfighter (cho) on dealing with an ******* split pusher who's just doing what he wants to do anyway (singed). I'd be happy to play it out with you though, as I said, my experience is limited in the matchup so maybe I'm just not seeing Cho's strengths in it.

 

[@TKbreezy]

All the advice I got here helped

all my "greatest" champs I learned how to play here except annie

Px - Riven
Mogwai - Irelia, Pantheon
Jpak - Irelia (from when I first started)

 

[UTDZac]

CLG NA is scrimming against CLG EU if you guys want to watch.

HotshotGG (NA) http://lolcave.com/s/player/13574
Wickd (EU) http://lolcave.com/s/player/18755