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L__

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EDIT: That was fun. Just played game right after the one I left. On the opposing team I see one of the main people who was giving me **** that game. He's playing Gragas and ends up laning top vs me.

I ***** him so incredibly hard. Revenge is delicious.
I love it when that happens

truly a great feeling
 

SamuraiPanda

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So uh.... Blitz may be a sleeper right now. I think he has massive potential now that they removed the debuff from his W. With max CDR he can use Overdrive every 9 seconds, and the buff lasts 8 seconds, so Blitzcrank essentially ALWAYS HAS +32% MS and +60% AS. At all times. That is absolutely massive. Doesn't matter what character you're talking about, stats like that would even be amazing on someone like Annie even.

Hm... the possibilities are running through my head. The right build could easily make Blitz OP :3
 

Wobbles

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Maybe something involving AS/CDR? I mean, if you can keep overdrive up that often, then max level powerfist should be up every couple seconds right? So you'll get natural, frequent damage boosts.

Stuff like Stinger, Glacial Shroud... glacial gives him the mana to spam those abilities, the two CDR together should put him in the thirties I'm thinking, and that's pretty damn cheap to get. If you wanna cap the CDR a Brutalizer would help too, and again it's cheap... plus if you upgrade to Youmuu's then you'll get another movespeed buff to be even less escapable. Blitz with lizard buff? That would be pretty tough to get away from with Overdrive spam.

I wanna help you brainstorm SP, this sounds awesome.

Edit:

Also I tried a new Urgot build, used my standard core of Tear Treads Brutalizer+Youmuu's, then went Wriggle's and Hexdrinker and finished Manamune. Pretty good damage Qs (around 250-300 with 100 ARpen), but the real clincher was Red and Green pots that gave me 600 damage crits. I was REALLY durable too. Baited so many people into fighting me at low health with my shield and the Hexdrinker popping at the same time, I had 500 invisible health and 120+ resists... very deceptive >_>

double edit: I wanna play a game with your Panth Mogwai. Laned with a Panth earlier and we just cleaned house. Quite literally unescapable death once we were both 6.
 

SamuraiPanda

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Well, I'm not entirely sure where to begin with. I think right now things with mana + CDR would be awesome for him (IF his passive is based off of MAX not current mana), but its more a question of what role can he fill.

I honestly think Blitzcrank could easily be the best pusher/bd'er in the game with these buffs. Overdrive makes his AS insane, and his punch does double damage even to turrets. With just a manamune last game I was hitting turrets surprisingly hard.

I'm also considering builds/skills. I think I may start by experimenting with the newly buffed damage runes in conjunction with his power fist early game. I feel like lifesteal + tear gives him some really strong lane stayability but he is an absurdly poor farmer in a side lane prior to 6 (unless he gets a kill). I honestly think Blitz could work better as a solo.

Frankly, there are WAY too many possibilities with an ability like that to narrow it down very easily. When I approach situations like this, I usually tend to study my own playstyle and what I enjoy (note: I enjoy winning :p), then try to build around that. I'm feeling like his early game is pretty weaksauce lest you have kills. Example: I played a game (normal game) where I went 1-7-1... then by the end of it I was 5-8-9. The difference there being wriggles + CDR, and I played a very fast, bait-heavy in and out playstyle that involved me getting down to damn near a sliver of hp every fight but always coming back in for more disables and damage.

I'm just typing at random right now since its a bit late. So...

TL;DR = Dunno where to start. I have ideas but I'm still testing what works best. Need to figure out what his major role in a team would be in an overdrive-centric build to be able to optimize it.
 

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No gimmicky BDing imo, go with what he's amazing at- ganking.

Run from lane to lane, pulling over and over. I had a friend of mine playing Blitz like that the other night and he got oracles, they were completely blind all game and couldn't overextend in the least, this coupled with GP denying bottom lane and we cut 1/4 of their farm completely off for a huge chunk of the game. This was BEFORE the removal of the nerf, and it was just super effective. Thinking post-buff and it just seems too scary to me. ><
 

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"I wanna play trundle. I'm a good trundle, lemme play him!"

First person locks in trundle saying they'll go tank trundle.
"WTF MAN!?! I CALLED HIM!11 I CANT USE ANYONE ELSE! WTH!!!"

Me and the rest of the team: "Just pick someone else."

"I CAN'T USE ANYONE ELSE! I WANTED TRUNDLE!"

Me: "Please don't play ranked if you can only use one character and cry like a child when you don't get to use them."

"**** YOU! I'm going ZILEAN. I used him last time he was free! whatever scrubs."

...
I queue dodged.

ELO Hell makes me want to kill something.
 

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"I wanna play trundle. I'm a good trundle, lemme play him!"

First person locks in trundle saying they'll go tank trundle.
"WTF MAN!?! I CALLED HIM!11 I CANT USE ANYONE ELSE! WTH!!!"

Me and the rest of the team: "Just pick someone else."

"I CAN'T USE ANYONE ELSE! I WANTED TRUNDLE!"

Me: "Please don't play ranked if you can only use one character and cry like a child when you don't get to use them."

"**** YOU! I'm going ZILEAN. I used him last time he was free! whatever scrubs."

...
I queue dodged.

ELO Hell makes me want to kill something.

How does one play a hero that was just released, cost 4800 IP, and has never been free?

I like my last game: "I'm going tank/dps trundle"

So he rushes BR and loses us the game with a score of 3-11. Sigh. First ranked loss in quite a while,.
 

Zolga Owns

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How does one play a hero that was just released, cost 4800 IP, and has never been free?

I like my last game: "I'm going tank/dps trundle"

So he rushes BR and loses us the game with a score of 3-11. Sigh. First ranked loss in quite a while,.
Idiocy. It's everywhere.
 

Turazrok

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Locket jungle olaf?

complete theory but with hp quints and starting with ruby crystal?

no reason to take it over wriggle's though.
 

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Like I said earlier, locket + insert melee champ = current EU metagame. Once it catches on in the US I'm sure locket will get the nerf bat. I just hope that happens before they nerf Graggles :/. I keep beating Gragas over and over again. He's not as good as people make him out to be, you just need to put him down early game and he'll be a nonissue since he relies heavily on levels and scaling (i.e. getting core items as early as possible) to be effective.


In other news, I've been thinking about making another thread regarding GP buffs, but this time I'ma be more realistic. Honestly if they do too much to GP he'll be retardedly overpowered since he's pretty decent as he is now if you know him as well as I do. I'm thinking about proposing 3 buffs that will make GP GOOD but not OP (I think):

1. Able to use Raise Moral on himself (does no damage though). Only provides allies with an aura if he uses it on a minion.

2. While Remove Scurvy is on cooldown, Gangplank gains CC reduction effects.

3. Something that reduces the RNG of his ultimate and gives it something you can always rely on. My personal idea = when GP casts Cannon Barrage, enemies within the circle initially take damage and are slowed (equivalent to one cannonball).
 

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My personal idea = when GP casts Cannon Barrage, enemies within the circle initially take damage and are slowed (equivalent to one cannonball).
Bit much, imo.

If that was added, I'd at least make it have a channel on it. Maybe 3 seconds- have him radio in to his crew on the pirate-ship during the channel- like you do when you call in for an air-strike in any game.
 

SamuraiPanda

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Bit much, imo.

If that was added, I'd at least make it have a channel on it. Maybe 3 seconds- have him radio in to his crew on the pirate-ship during the channel- like you do when you call in for an air-strike in any game.
Basically all I'm saying is that on cast it will automatically hit 1 cannonball on whoever is in the circle, THEN go into the random cannonballs like it is now. Are you saying thats too much?

I don't know why but that concept seems difficult for me to convey since tons of people misunderstand that idea when I first mention it, so I just want to make sure we're on the same page here.

I do think that it would guarantee at least a few cannonballs, so slightly nerfing the ulti damage may help balance it out. Although if the damage is nerfed then I'd think a small AD ratio, like .2, would be required to make the ult scale decently into late game.
 

Wobbles

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SP, I really don't see how having Gangplank's ult do full damage instantly and apply grog soaked blade is a good idea.
 

Limeee

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so i'm only level 11
but i'm sick of playing with complete *******
i'm not very good at all, but i understand the very, very basics of the game, and i'm looking for some people to play with
i kind of just play the free week characters IE gragas, irelia, and ashe but i bought ashe
hit me up IGN: Limeee
:009:
 

SamuraiPanda

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You know, I was really close to answering Wobbles seriously.

I wasn't joking that most people misunderstand it for some reason :X
 

M3D

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So DanGR is my new duo queue partner. Sorry KevinM. We donged so hard tonight. He carries, I jungle. GG fools.
 

S l o X

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I laughed sooo hard when my friend showed me that.

My friend told me Dan Dinh was replacing him? and I was like Wait what? I thought DD was already part of CLG?

Regardless, I laughed. I'd say I have some sense of humor.

@SP, I agree on the ult change.
 

Leacero

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Having an instant global ult that damages and slows immediately seems a bit overkill, a cast time like with Karthus or a small delay before the guaranteed cannonball hits would probably be needed IMO.
 

DanGR

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Before I begin I just wanna say I'm really inexperienced against and with Pirate so please bear with me if I say something factually incorrect. ._.
Basically all I'm saying is that on cast it will automatically hit 1 cannonball on whoever is in the circle, THEN go into the random cannonballs like it is now. Are you saying thats too much?

I don't know why but that concept seems difficult for me to convey since tons of people misunderstand that idea when I first mention it, so I just want to make sure we're on the same page here.

I do think that it would guarantee at least a few cannonballs, so slightly nerfing the ulti damage may help balance it out. Although if the damage is nerfed then I'd think a small AD ratio, like .2, would be required to make the ult scale decently into late game.
The guaranteed hit is fine.

It's the part about the inconsistency of your idea with the other global ults that I dislike. Even though I disagree with the current setup, I think consistency is extremely important. That said, to keep with the trend Pirate's ultimate needs to have...

  1. An interruptible channel for the caster. (Iirc, Pirate doesn't have one and you're not proposing this be added, correct?)
  2. Notification for the target that something is coming (Karthus' red line over your head, Panth circle, Ez sound effects from across the screen, etc). Note: Pirate does laugh before the cannonballs hit, but I think there needs to be a slightly longer delay- especially if there's guaranteed damage as opposed to random.)
  3. Lastly, delayed damage. (From the time you're notified there's a global ult coming your way to the time you're hit, there should be a small gap in time. The impression I get is that you're proposing the damage is instant right when you press with your mouse the location you want the damage to hit. That's a bit... unfair. [opinion])

So DanGR is my new duo queue partner. Sorry KevinM. We donged so hard tonight. He carries, I jungle. GG fools.
Wonder how far we'll get. ;p

Tbh, I just want to have somewhat intelligent teammates that will read the chat on my team and then I'll be comfortable solo-queuing, as I'm pretty good about pinging, suggesting things for us to do, and getting my team to do objectives, I think. Just like in normal-queue it took me forever to get out of around 20-30+ wins over losses- not because of my skill, I don't think, but because the environment was WAAAY worse to try to do well in. Past that it's been a cruise. I'm at +65 or so right now.

Edit: PANDA, also this- VVVV (arrows)
Having an instant global ult that damages and slows immediately seems a bit overkill, a cast time like with Karthus or a small delay before the guaranteed cannonball hits would probably be needed IMO.
Edit2: omg S l o X, that's so win. xD
 

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After the past few games, I don't think I can get out of my current rating.

It feels like every game, people cuss me out if they don't get mid and end up going into my lane until I decide to leave the lane.

If that isn't the case, I'll jungle and they'll tell me to coordinate a gank which fails and ends up getting the other team first blood.

This may sound like the generic "I'm amazing, I do nothing wrong" QQing. I admit I have my flaws. I don't even know where I'm going with this anymore. I guess I just wanted to vent somewhere about how much I've disliked LoL lately.
 

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After the past few games, I don't think I can get out of my current rating.

It feels like every game, people cuss me out if they don't get mid and end up going into my lane until I decide to leave the lane.

If that isn't the case, I'll jungle and they'll tell me to coordinate a gank which fails and ends up getting the other team first blood.

This may sound like the generic "I'm amazing, I do nothing wrong" QQing. I admit I have my flaws. I don't even know where I'm going with this anymore. I guess I just wanted to vent somewhere about how much I've disliked LoL lately.
omfg moron I get top lane, I'm KAYLE, IM HAVE A RANGED YOU NEWB, go away dumb newb pantheon
 

L__

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omfg moron I get top lane, I'm ASHE, IM HAVE A RANGED YOU NEWB, go away dumb newb pantheon
ashe's decisions

-buys berzerker grieves-
-buys brutalizer-
-buys pickaxe-



however at this time ashe has fed 0/5 and refuses to buy defensive items OR buy mercury's treads.

[the team was something along the lines of gragas, pantheon, galio, mf, sona?]
 

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well, i played janna yesterday and went ghost (?) / clairvoyance. (normal game) apparently our zilean had cv. get into the game and i see galio and nunu.

if i had cleanse . . . -____- we might've won the game.
 

Wobbles

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Uninstalled. Last night I realized I wasn't actually having fun games anymore. Tried solo-queuing a bunch of ranked and realized I'm really not that good, I don't have the incentive to be good, and I don't like spending so much time playing a game I'm bad at where the frustration potential is so high.

What will I do with these extra 3 hours+ of my day?
 

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Zerks are NOT a bad item. People keep saying they suck, but they really don't on quite a few champions. I use them on Warwick and Olaf fo shizzle. Ashe doesn't really need them, but the permaslow doesn't hurt with the fast attack speed, especially with her high crit chance.

Dan, I think we can break 1400 together easy. Between the two of us, we'll always at least have one reliable carry and either a reliable tank or jungler as well. With just one other legit teammate, we have a solid chance of winning.

edit: WOBBLES NOOOOO!!!! You shouldn't play solo. That's what ruins this game. It's not fun at all without friends. Play with friends and you'll have way more fun.
 

DanGR

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They did hotfix panth. Just won't show up in the tooltip tip next patch.
 

L__

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Zerks are NOT a bad item. People keep saying they suck, but they really don't on quite a few champions. I use them on Warwick and Olaf fo shizzle. Ashe doesn't really need them, but the permaslow doesn't hurt with the fast attack speed, especially with her high crit chance.
when the reason the carry is dying due to faulty positioning and getting cc'd for that faulty positioning

it's a horrible item

otherwise I know it's not a terrible item.
 
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