Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I think imma try running Shy as a Tank and see what happens.
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Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Psssh, I built this and wrecked:
And I had 5.2k on me at end game, I just never needed to go back, so yeah.
EDIT: Btw, im 3-0 with Shy so far <3
And I had 5.2k on me at end game, I just never needed to go back, so yeah.
EDIT: Btw, im 3-0 with Shy so far <3
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Tankvana is definitely OP. You can literally Dragon's Decent into the middle of all 5 of the enemies, eat Malzahar's suppression, Swain's Snare, all while constantly eating damage from the whole team, and then casually walk away with the help of Burnout, all the while still having 20%ish of your health left.
why are you mad shaco is a strong champion lol, and doesnt a decrease in activation range mean you get more hits in?
Yeah. I don't give a damn about the state of Shaco as long as that mother ****er isn't broken again. I do think they should have tried a small buff to the arm time. Quarter of a second for example instead of half second. Wouldn't change much for making jitb nests, and with the activation range decreased having it arm slightly quicker could bring it back to par on ganks where they now would barely get away (although increased cast range help with getting them as well)
Shaco's basically the same bar Boxes not being as ******** when clustered, with deceive and ult working better.
Shaco's basically the same bar Boxes not being as ******** when clustered, with deceive and ult working better.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Shaya, calm the **** down. Shaco is hella good right now, it's not like Riot is picking on you or anything. Just because he's not EXACTLY what you want doesnt mean you need to snap every time Riot updates him. Next time you ***** and moan about how Riot is 'ruining' him, take a step back and think about the people who like and play Eve or Heimer or something, and notice how they dont throw a fit at every patch about how they're still bad.
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
Riot be taking my money at these skins...
ToferTheHuman
Hii
That Miss Fortune skin, OMG.
I need to buy it.
I need to buy it.
Hmmm...I can't see this as anything but an exaggeration. There's no way this should happen unless you are well fed or farmed well above your opponents.
Right now I see her as OP like Irelia is OP, as in she isn't technically but if she gets ahead she's practically unstoppable.
But hey, maybe she is too good. We'll see soon enough.
If riot said 'we nerfed him because he's a strong champion', then I would accept it - because I can see merit in it.
But I would have preferred last patch shaco to this one. And they advertised it as 'buffs'.
Maybe shaco with bug fixes actually is still OP.
:|
I don't mind them killing jitb nests. I don't use them (as in, the "scrubby camp a jungle brush for 10 minutes thing"). I use Shaco as both AD and AP, losing 140 damage on a level 5 jitb hurts, losing 35 damage per 100 AP for every jitb planted hurts (in the sense there was no damage compensation elsewhere that's less 'problematic'). One Jitb + shiv slow + hallucinate the cc to **** is very standard, but got nerfed noticeably this patch when that is -not- what they were stating they were after. Nerf damage strength of jitbs, nerf utility of jitbs... say "congrats players, we buffed shaco by making his ult apply his slow! (wait it was one of those bugs we told them was an unlisted nerf a year ago but it was all 'oh, really? i'll look into it")
All I really wanted was clarification from riot about what's up. I too am worried they'll do a gangplank treatment (oh my god completely nerfed in every way guinsoo, gg; next patch -> top pick/ban for how many months? lol). I would have probably been content if they had cut the damage and not the trigger range... bleh
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
It's that she pushes like a boss and just doesnt die at all whatsoever when in dragon form, so if you build her tanky, everytime you need a hard push and your team is ready, just Ult through the entire team, throw up your W, Q whoever is being focused, and then pull out if they stand firm shooting an E behind you, or if they retreat, chase down and push harder than ever. You literally should push half of mid every time you use your ult there.
Cant wait to buy that new Lee Sin skin, man
Cia
das kwl
is it just me, or does Shyvana seem holy **** omfg broke?
She's going to be soloing towers in dragon form with just a trinity force. callin it.
She's going to be soloing towers in dragon form with just a trinity force. callin it.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
I think the bigger issue would be her teamfight presence since she can pretty much be in dragon form 100% of the time in a teamfight, tankyDPSing it up using constant AoE damage.is it just me, or does Shyvana seem holy **** omfg broke?
She's going to be soloing towers in dragon form with just a trinity force. callin it.
I'm probably going to buy RP and get her. :|
-DD
solecalibur
Smash Master
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
I don't play terrible champs, that's not the point here. The point is that there are a small subset of absolutely overpowered champs that can beat the otherwise good champs to pulp
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Get CC'd and your rage depletes like mad, so no, not really.
And Shyvana imo is only broke when you build her tanky. Seems like she has problems late game when you build her for damage due to the fact that she has no CC whatsoever, so is forced to chase people around and then they can just hide behind teammates. When not tanky, she's kind of like Blitz in a team fight imo. Blitz will get bursted down if he tries to run in and do something, so he has to sit back and wait for an opportunity to rocket grab an opponent to him. Shyvana is like this, only she can only throw a fireball and it doesnt punish them near as hard. She absolutely needs to get up there and cause mayhem, but she doesnt have a way to do that without building tanky, which is why I think that build suits her best.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
I dunno, maybe Phreak didn't get CC ***** in the spotlight, but in that teamfight he showed it didn't look like he dropped under 90 Fury at any point in time once he initiated on them as a dragon. Plus if you blow all your CC on the CC-less TankyDPS the carries might just blow your team wide open.
These ones?
http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/reign...e-sounds-like-it-s-going-through-some-changes
-DD
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Trust me im 5-0 with her, it doesnt last that long. It lasts a while, but unless the team fight is short, it shouldnt be lasting the whole thing.
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
Good I ****ing hate shaco and think he should join eve and just cease to exist.
Shaco gangs are the most rage inducing ****s in this game
Shaco gangs are the most rage inducing ****s in this game
Shaco gangs? 1 of them is already bad enough! D:
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
2 of them is pretty bad too. :/
Dang, Talon got hit hard with the nerfs and Wukong is a monster now. Idk about Shyvana yet, but, man, the monkey is going to drive people bananas.
Dang, Talon got hit hard with the nerfs and Wukong is a monster now. Idk about Shyvana yet, but, man, the monkey is going to drive people bananas.
The wheels are already in motion... Played some 5s with Dan, Zac, Dphat, and Turkey last night. We were roflstomping pretty hard and having a good time with it. Maybe we'll try a go4lol in the not-too-distant future.
Yorick + Shaco gogogo!
Shaco gang all dai baby.
Wow Shyvana wrecks towers with her Q and passive working on towers.
You can definitely keep her ult on for an entire fight if you have your build. Wit's End + Triforce and you have enough attack speed to have constant fury and Q up very often. She has great AoE with her ult up, and she can really stick to a target and crush them with Triforce + Q (double chance for Phage) + W + ult to chase a flash. And man she farms up a storm with her W.
And she gets %armor reduction that's AoE with her ult?
Riot is getting carried away with this whole "let's cram as many different mechanics into this champ as possible!" stuff imo.
Shaco gang all dai baby.
Wow Shyvana wrecks towers with her Q and passive working on towers.
You can definitely keep her ult on for an entire fight if you have your build. Wit's End + Triforce and you have enough attack speed to have constant fury and Q up very often. She has great AoE with her ult up, and she can really stick to a target and crush them with Triforce + Q (double chance for Phage) + W + ult to chase a flash. And man she farms up a storm with her W.
And she gets %armor reduction that's AoE with her ult?
Riot is getting carried away with this whole "let's cram as many different mechanics into this champ as possible!" stuff imo.
He's not really from the boards. Needed an AP carry player and Mogwai knew someone from his prior team (I think that's what it was?)
Yea, he was old TL and just generally plays a bunch with me and my friends. Not sure if there's a good candidate on SWF for AP carry. S2J's pretty good with Kass, but haven't seen him play any other solos other than Cho and also I think he's already on a team with some other WC smashers.
Tbh Zac is good at AP but he doesn't seem to want to play them as frequently (unless they are AD and in the jungle).
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Undefeated still with Shyvana, and Tankvana is freaking amazing still:
People I still haven't played with:
Mogwai
eff you
Mogwai
eff you
Wriggles+Wit's End+whatever the hell else you want seems like a great start to any Shyvana. Those + her ult give you amazing survivability and damage in a fight.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
She sounds like irelia to me. (Her utility I mean)
yea, TL's saying you just build her like Irelia and she's busted as balls. Take it with a grain of salt, sometimes they're idiots over there, but it makes sense to me. That kit seems kinda silly without mana constraints IMO.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Might as make twin strike reset after a minion kill and call her shyrelia.