Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Shaya]

How the hell are you meant to win a lane against Graves as either a solo or carry + support?

 

[Ignatius]

Play Graves.

 

[Wave⁂]

ban graves

 

[Cyan_]

gank graves

 

[jpak]

play soraka and a long ranged champion

 

[DMG]

Become the Graves

 

[john!]

dig graves

 

[Circa]

I lied, I'm not bad with AP carries. I just keep getting into games with ****ing feeders.

**** you, League of Legends. We're done for today.

try to get mid lane
farm and harass/kill the enemy champion if you can
in teamfights, wait until you can safely blow your spells onto a non-tank (ideally a damage dealer without a lot of magic resist)
which ap carries do you play?

I mainly just play Swain and Kat (she's basically AP), but I also play Annie on occasion. I also own Anivia, Heimerdinger, Karthus, and Kassadin. I don't really understand how much damage Swain can do though (ever) and I haven't figured out my limits when his ult is on (as in, how much damage I can take), and Kat just got kicked in the balls and I feel useless when I play her now. Annie is probably my favorite of all of them I own, but I never feel comfortable using her ult (that 120 second cooldown makes me nervous as hell), which is kinda what makes Annie what she is.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

I laughed at the Yorick pun.

In all honesty though, Graves is effing overpowered. What kind of bullcrap idiots think they should make a character with an intense gap closer/mega-steroid and a bullcrap shotgun spell that punishes melee characters waaaaaaaaaay too hard?

 

[Wave⁂]

Actually, I think Graves is only overpowered compared to other AD carries, which is totally fine because Riot nerfed them all into the ground

 

[Geoberos]

Maybe at least shorten the range of his shotgun to more like... you know a shotgun.
It's disappointing to still be nicked at it's longest range while trying to harass using Ez's Mystic Shot of similar range, taking a decent amount of poke damage
Edit: Even though, his weapon doesn't seem to take an appearance of a shotgun. Guns, they're usually never what they are

 

[Wave⁂]

They could change his passive to something like bonus damage when attacking close enemies, and then nerfing his base AD and stuff. I was thinking about some change like that a couple days ago, but I think it'd end up being trivial late game, and also possibly making him really weak early-game (with less harass and harder last hits).

 

[Sinz]

just why does that bloody dash go through walls. Makes no ****ing sense. Graves DASHES forwards. He doesn't leap or teleport. But apparently he can dash through ****in walls. Already hard to gank champ doesn't need to be nearly impossible to gank.

 

[BSL]

Cause he's mother ****ing jim raynor.

 

[Tom]

TIL I have a sweet *** Graves notepad

 

[john!]

if gragas can kool-aid man through walls, then a tough cowboy can barge through walls

 

[Sinister Slush]

i don't understand why you would get bloodrazor, malady and wit's end... they deal magic damage, and twitch excels at dealing physical damage. seems like the money would be better spent on crit or something

Bloodrazer for Armor and able to do decent damage to tanks.
Malady for lowering their magic resist so expunge can do more damage (50% Atk spd being a bonus)
Same for wits end, Atk speed being bonus while giving A free 50 Magic resist.

 

[JTB]

dig graves

hahahaha, too good

 

[UTDZac]

Add me on beta test realm, UTDZac

so much RP, want to try out some new skins.

 

[DallasPhat]

On hotshot stream if anyone want to watch.
handle = budreaux.

 

[S l o X]

i'm quitting league. it's the only game that i get angry at and i have no idea why i've been playing it for so long. ~

i'll still keep up with the competitive scene though.

 

[Vyke]

A lot of smashers say that in my area.

 

[DallasPhat]

HSGG tooo heavy!

 

[Pikaville]

I really really miss LoL.

I should be able to play again in roughly a month when I get a new computer.

I badly want to try Xerath.

 

[Wave⁂]

Xerath's skillshots aren't hard enough.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

What do you guys think of Experience quints? Particularly on someone that needs 6 soon like Nocturne?

 

[PhantomX]

Don't. Just get the XP masteries and put the Quints into something more useful.

Zac add me on test realm! PhantomX10

 

[Wave⁂]

This guy across from me at this LAN is shouting "WILL OF ANCIENTS OP" because Karthus / Soraka bot lane and Corki / Soraka late game

this guyyy

Also the same guy also says Graves isn't OP because all you do is dodge his skillshot and then hit him

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

I've seen XP quints used on nidalee to some success

 

[DallasPhat]

Think about this, when you hit level 18 how does EXP quints benefit you?

 

[jpak]

ok they dont help for 10% of my game isnt really convincing

 

[Wave⁂]

Think about this, when you hit level 18 how does EXP quints benefit you?

They help you a lot since you got extra kills from early game advantage?

 

[Circa]

This guy across from me at this LAN is shouting "WILL OF ANCIENTS OP" because Karthus / Soraka bot lane and Corki / Soraka late game

this guyyy

Also the same guy also says Graves isn't OP because all you do is dodge his skillshot and then hit him

Anyone who says Graves isn't OP, especially for that reason, is clearly dumb.

I mean, he is extremely strong at absolute worst. His kit is essentially a group of really good versions of everything that ranged carries either need or want. Every ranged carry is jealous of him in some way, and that's not a good thing in terms of balance. He has great damage output and great utility, and his kit makes him hard as hell to gank. There's no other ranged carry that offers all of that in one. It's just two at most for every other. If that's not OP, then I don't know what is.

 

[Turazrok]

Because graves is a real man and all the other carries belong in the kitchen

 

[Z'zgashi]

Actually, I think Graves is only overpowered compared to other AD carries, which is totally fine because Riot nerfed them all into the ground

Its funny because his name is Graves.

 

[Circa]

Because graves is a real man and all the other carries belong in the kitchen

This makes me wish that there was a mobile kitchen Corki skin. Or maybe an Ice Cream Man skin? Like omg that would be amazing.

 

[JTB]

In what situations should an AD carry go wriggles? Just if the other team has alot of ad as well?

 

[Wave⁂]

I dunno, I think Madred's is superior to Wriggles for the most part.

 

[Scamp]

Think about this, when you hit level 18 how does EXP quints benefit you?

I did, but I really need to do the math on how much faster you get to certain levels. I'm not sure any champ truly needs to hit 18 ASAP, it's that certain champs get way better at a specific level.

ZG's example was for Nocture who only really wants to get to level 6 ASAP. He's still a decent ganker before that, though, so I don't think it's too worthwhile for him.

Karthus, however, becomes WAY more useful at levels 6, 11, and 16. I'm considering experimenting with experience quints on him, but I don't have the IP and, like I said, I haven't done the math. If the 6 percent turns out to be one less minion wave or something like that, I'd pass. But if it were truly significant (IMO, anyway) then I think I'd go for it.

 

[Scamp]

I dunno, I think Madred's is superior to Wriggles for the most part.

Well of course, it's also about twice as expensive.