Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Z'zgashi]

Try it out.

 

[Ignatius]

Troll build: 6 Ninja Tabi Jax specced for dodge w/ as many dodge runes as possible.

72% dodge from boots + 4 from mastery + ??% from runes, never get meleed?

COULD IT WORK?!

There's an in game cap on dodge %, I don't remember what it is but it's there from when PD gave dodge.

 

[PhantomX]

Lol, the forum badges are going up.

 

[Z'zgashi]

According to me google searching for the dodge cap and clicking on one link, there is no dodge cap, and dodge does stack, but it doesnt stack perfectly. Like for example, the guy used this as an example:

"18% - Counter Strike
12% - Ninja Tabi
6.75% - Greater Seals of Evasion x9
4.5% - Greater Quintessence of Evasion x3

=41.25% Dodge"

 

[Mogwai]

There's an in game cap on dodge %, I don't remember what it is but it's there from when PD gave dodge.

no, it's just multiplicative.

Troll build: 6 Ninja Tabi Jax specced for dodge w/ as many dodge runes as possible.

72% dodge from boots + 4 from mastery + ??% from runes, never get meleed?

COULD IT WORK?!

as I just said, it's multiplicative.

it doesn't work like this: 0.12 + 0.12 + 0.12 + 0.12 + 0.12 + 0.12 = 72%

instead it's multiplicative with % chance to hit, like this:
0.88 * 0.88 * 0.88 * 0.88 * 0.88 * 0.88 = 46.4% chance to hit = 53.6% dodge.

if you keep going, it's 2% dodge from masteries, 18% from level 5 dodge skill, and 11.25% from quints and seals.

0.464 * 0.98 * 0.82 * 0.8875 = 33.1 % chance to hit = 66.9% dodge.

 

[Nuris]

This game is pretty fun so I've been lurking this thread for a while. I guess I'll post my info.
Nuris
LoL Tag(s): Girth, Pphil
LoL Main: FotM

Regarding the current discussion, what runes/masteries are best on Teemo?

Also, I'm pretty sure dodge stacks multiplicatively, and the most dodge you can have is on a moving Sivir at around 70%.
edit: **** ninja'd

 

[jiovanni007]

This game is pretty fun so I've been lurking this thread for a while. I guess I'll post my info.
Nuris
LoL Tag(s): Girth, Pphil
LoL Main: FotM

Regarding the current discussion, what runes/masteries are best on Teemo?

Also, I'm pretty sure dodge stacks multiplicatively, and the most dodge you can have is on a moving Sivir at around 70%.
edit: **** ninja'd

I know someone else runs def tree on Teemo and could probably answer you better than I can but I usually go 0/21/9. I run mpen reds, flat armor yellows, flat mres blues, mpen quints. Start boots + hpots, build merc's, malady, wits, madred's. By then its usually gg but Mallet + atma's is nice to fill out the last two. We were also talking about running Wriggle's on Teemo for the first item which I do on occasion but its matchup dependent for me.

Thinking about switching out my yellows and blues for scaling. Good idea? Bad Idea? By the way my red + quints is because Madred's is in the core so I want as much of that 4% as possible.

 

[Mogwai]

9/21/0

AD Quints
ArPen Marks
Mix of Flat Armor and Dodge on Seals
Mix of Flat MRes and Scaling MRes on Glpyhs

boots
2-3 Dblades or Wriggle's (matchup dependent)
Wit's end
Phage
Finish up Frozen Mallet, GA and Madred's Bloodrazor is whatever order makes sense
Get a QSS whenever if you need it, otherwise last slot is usually a bloodthirster.

 

[UTDZac]

I build 6 Ninja tabi on lee sin once. Was easy game.

 

[PhantomX]

I wish all the champs I wanted to get didn't cost 6300...

Talon and Kennen... and I still have to get dodge runes D:

 

[Z'zgashi]

Kennen is so freaking cute, I love him.

 

[tarmacker]

...and I still have to get dodge runes D:

Me too. I just can't seem to justify dropping 7k+ IP when I could just get another champ.

 

[Mogwai]

that's why I just buy 4 of them. Full dodge is overrated, you just want higher consistency on nimbleness.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Dear diary,
Today in a normal game, I played Veigar against a team with no magic resist. So I got spell vamp and an hourglass, backdoored alone and dove towers whenever I got the opportunity. It shouldn't have worked out.

 

[Plum]

This game is pretty fun so I've been lurking this thread for a while. I guess I'll post my info.
Nuris
LoL Tag(s): Girth, Pphil
LoL Main: FotM

Regarding the current discussion, what runes/masteries are best on Teemo?

Also, I'm pretty sure dodge stacks multiplicatively, and the most dodge you can have is on a moving Sivir at around 70%.
edit: **** ninja'd

Basically what Mogwai said. You play Teemo as if he was a Bruiser over a standard carry.
Your range is small and your an easy target so you're going to be taking a lot of damage. The 9 in offense is really good for the magic pen because you are stacking on hit effects from items and your abilities which all deal magic damage. The 21 in defense is what allows you to trade hits in lane well, and survive a fight. Mercs, Wit's End, Bloodrazer, and Frozen Mallet as your endgame goals make you really tanky, with good damage output and some utility.

I try to avoid fights if possible just because you aren't the best in fights. Just shroom up everywhere and start pushing lanes. When they come to stop you run away and push another lane. Just drive the other team crazy on a Yordle hunt.

 

[Tom]

Kennen is so freaking cute, I love him.

incoming assassination by ego ignaxio

 

[Z'zgashi]

Dear diary,
Today in a normal game, I played Veigar against a team with no magic resist. So I got spell vamp and an hourglass, backdoored alone and dove towers whenever I got the opportunity. It shouldn't have worked out.

Riven will poop all over your Veigar. 0 AP for the win.

/onlytimeRivenisevergood

 

[PhantomX]

He still has a huge stun to trap you while you jump around like a ******

 

[Angbad]

I freaking hate this game. Go 3/0 in my lane on singed. 0/4 kog 0/3 taric bot. Mid has dc'd 3 times, 0/2. Jungle is 0/1

I got us baron and they still lost a team fight idek

I don't understand how i'm supposed to raise my elo when almost half of my games are like this

 

[Zero_Gamer]

New Garen is awful D:

 

[S l o X]

UDYR Solo Top. What do I max first? (Skills)
s2j, what do you build on solo top Cho?

and what characters should I know (and matchups) if I'm going to solo top for a team?

 

[fkacyan]

Dodge is multiplicative, yet crit is additive?

WHY IS THERE NO CONSISTENCY

Dekar how do you rune your 3s damage chogath, I started playing him like that last night and good god it's stupidly effective.

EDIT: Riven is utterly fantastic at levels 1 and 2. If you can land 8-10 kills in that time period, you might win! Otherwise, nope.

 

[PhantomX]

UDYR Solo Top. What do I max first? (Skills)
s2j, what do you build on solo top Cho?

and what characters should I know (and matchups) if I'm going to solo top for a team?

I think you gonna have to go Phoenix and turtle Udyr predominately and focus on farming your lane with Phoenix auto attacks, b/c Udyr can't stance change like crazy due to the huge turtle stance mana regen nerfs.

 

[Hylian]

I freaking hate this game. Go 3/0 in my lane on singed. 0/4 kog 0/3 taric bot. Mid has dc'd 3 times, 0/2. Jungle is 0/1

I got us baron and they still lost a team fight idek

I don't understand how i'm supposed to raise my elo when almost half of my games are like this

From what i understand you are supposed to wait until you are better in those situations to play ranked, and then pick a carry destroy mid and gank as often as possible. Also, duo queue instead of solo.

 

[PhantomX]

You also should wait a bit considering the 800 ELO people are mashed up together with the 1400 elo people atm.

 

[JTB]

Angbad, your problem is that you didnt go 10-0 in lane and troll the hell out of the other team, thus demoralizing them.

GO HARD OR GO HOME

 

[fkacyan]

For real: Say get dunked EVERY TIME you land a kill. It makes people oureageoously mad.

And every time they say "get dunked" in return, say "nah son you cant dunk."

 

[DarkDragoon]

Angbad, your problem is that you didnt go 10-0 in lane and troll the hell out of the other team, thus demoralizing them.

GO HARD OR GO HOME

This.
Trolling the other team works so well.
-DD

 

[PsychoMidget]

Riven will poop all over your Veigar. 0 AP for the win.

/onlytimeRivenisevergood

!!

riven isn't that bad

 

[_Dice]

Dodge is multiplicative, yet crit is additive?

WHY IS THERE NO CONSISTENCY

Dekar how do you rune your 3s damage chogath, I started playing him like that last night and good god it's stupidly effective.

EDIT: Riven is utterly fantastic at levels 1 and 2. If you can land 8-10 kills in that time period, you might win! Otherwise, nope.

Am i the only person who does well with riven in the world?

>.>

 

[PsychoMidget]

Am i the only person who does well with riven in the world?

>.>

I haven't done bad with her yet

that includes jungling and solo top, mainly jungle tho

 

[DarkDragoon]

I haven't done bad with her yet



that includes jungling and solo top, mainly jungle tho

What is your jungle setup?
I took a few random stabs at it, but I'm already really terrible at jungling so that only made things worse.
-DD

 

[Z'zgashi]

I do well with Riven, but she's bad. She has far too many glaring weeknesses and not enough quick approach options, not enough sustain, and she pretty much drops dead the moment she's touched by any kind of CC. She needs to outskill the other player in most situations, or punish the other guy's overextentions with ganks to get anything accomplished. On top of all that, she's also squishy and lacks any way to pressure an opponent under turret and isn't much help in a team fight unless the opponents group up.

Her burst damage isnt near as high as other champs who could easily take her place, her only CCs (her knock up on Q3 and stun on W) both are insanely short, and she has no way to play safe whatsoever without help.

She really does need some type of buff, whether it be on her E to cross terrain, her W stun to last longer, whatever, she really needs to be improved.

 

[fkacyan]

>Normal game
>Normal game
>Normal game
>Normal game

lol

Like I said, changes she needs to be viable:

- Limit passive charges to two, all charges discharge each melee
- Lower AD ratio on Q, increase base damage
- Increase E's distance slightly, make it cross terrain

She offers absolutely nothing another melee can't do better.

 

[PsychoMidget]

I just copied stone wall for jungle riven

atk dmg marks
armor seals
choice glyphs ( i just use flat magic resistance )
atk dmg quints

21/0/9 masteries

vamp scepter start (you can even start doran's blade)
wolves>wraiths>golemns> b >cloth armor pot>blue>wolves>wraith>red>golemns


and I wasn't saying riven was amazing or anything it just seemed like everyone thinks she is terrible

 

[Z'zgashi]

Btw, PsychoMidget, im at work atm, but when I get home, I can post my game stats if you like. Got a 25/2/5 in there and multiple 0 death games. Im not saying you cant succeed with her, just that she's not good at all in comparison to pretty much everyone else in the cast.

And she is pretty terrible, definitely bottom 5 or 10 in game.

And way to run jungle Riven EXACTLY like I do, with only a few changes on runes lol.

Also, everything theo said is true.

 

[PsychoMidget]

but shes so fun to playyy D:

 

[sheikamaru]

no one talks in the swf chat >.>

 

[jiovanni007]

hey can any of you 1800+ elo *****s write a thorough explanation on why Manamune is bad weapon for Caitlyn?

Would be even better if you gave other options that help sustain.

 

[sheikamaru]

there's no such thing as a bad weapon in league of legends.



deal with it.