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Ussi
Smash Legend
Showing his love for TSM
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
She doesn't need it, all she needs is to be a bruiser that gets 5 seconds of seconds of ignoring the rest of your team except for a selected target at item parity. The fact that she's among the stickier higher potential damage bruisers makes it worse.
She isn't very sticky at all though. You want to know who's sticky? Irelia. You want to know who eventually doesn't die? Irelia. You want to know someone who has a significantly better CC mechanic that is a lot more palatable and doesn't impede damage in the non-optimal case? Irelia.
Her damage potential is large but heavily situational. Ulting the real target requires getting in range (hint: E isn't very good at it, especially if you have to use it on OTHER targets to do so), but doesn't negate the fact that the carry can still feasibly kill you. Not ulting the carry so you can negate some peel or negate them damaging you perturbs her damage significantly. Furthermore and otherwise, without a successfully stunning E, the move is quite ass and self-punishing.
Poppy OP in three and a half changes?
Q reduces cd with auto attacks (or some other CD mechanic). Amalgamate her W and passive and give her something more meaningful and engaging for a real passive instead. Make her E more versatile (a potential option would be having the tackle distance cancelled [so you can use it to gap close but to not push them away/you with it], kinda like Wing during second part of Q on Lee sin).
Oh, and give her a mana pool.
But mostly the give her a mana pool part.
With just that, everyone would start to hate and ***** about her yet she'd still be a realistically middle tier or worse character with tons of weaknesses and counters in both items and champions. Then they'd rework her in line with what I just suggested but actually making her a sticky character, without imposing any serious nerfs on her damage reduction or ult capabilities, then they'd gut her to uselessness.
Her damage potential is large but heavily situational. Ulting the real target requires getting in range (hint: E isn't very good at it, especially if you have to use it on OTHER targets to do so), but doesn't negate the fact that the carry can still feasibly kill you. Not ulting the carry so you can negate some peel or negate them damaging you perturbs her damage significantly. Furthermore and otherwise, without a successfully stunning E, the move is quite ass and self-punishing.
Poppy OP in three and a half changes?
Q reduces cd with auto attacks (or some other CD mechanic). Amalgamate her W and passive and give her something more meaningful and engaging for a real passive instead. Make her E more versatile (a potential option would be having the tackle distance cancelled [so you can use it to gap close but to not push them away/you with it], kinda like Wing during second part of Q on Lee sin).
Oh, and give her a mana pool.
But mostly the give her a mana pool part.
With just that, everyone would start to hate and ***** about her yet she'd still be a realistically middle tier or worse character with tons of weaknesses and counters in both items and champions. Then they'd rework her in line with what I just suggested but actually making her a sticky character, without imposing any serious nerfs on her damage reduction or ult capabilities, then they'd gut her to uselessness.
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Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
You know who's actually sticky? ****ing Akali.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Yo shaya, you seem to think I actually think poppy is good. I don't, she's TERRIBLE, absolutely horrible, but the fact that she's terrible is hiding her massive design issues in the same way riot hypernerfed old eve til they could actually have time to roll out a fix. Doesn't mean the design isn't horrifically flawed, it just makes the character suck. Those fixes won't make her decent because she still will have the pushing power of a legless camel, but they will certainly make her frustrating design more obvious in teamfights making her even more stupid.
Speaking of Irelia her tenacity actually tends to create a similar situation though unlike poppy she has actual counterplay, just less then most bruisers because of that stupid tenacity buff, but she is killable.
But again the issue isn't her damage output, you're just completely ignoring my point about bruisers in general being able to outduel and kill ADCs that they have approximate item parity with and most other squishies as long as they're able to get on them and are decently good at sticking once they do unless they're peeled off.
The only reason poppy would actually need to ult her actual target for the the kill is if she's way behind the squishy in terms of itemization, aka 99.9% of games poppy's in.
Been D3 two months back, just like.
Man.
Low gold all over again as soon as I hit that division.
I've been playing poorly lately.
My last like, 10 games have been losses (8 technically, but I don't really count the two games I won since I was trolling as jungle Caitlyn and jungle Garen... idk how or why we won those)
What I did discover though is that Garen with Ancient Golem is an unkillable demon king.
Edit: also people are picking akali again
could they not? Every akali on the enemy team goes 28/0 in 13 minutes and ours goes 0/12 in 6 minutes.
Just delete akali already ffs
My last like, 10 games have been losses (8 technically, but I don't really count the two games I won since I was trolling as jungle Caitlyn and jungle Garen... idk how or why we won those)
What I did discover though is that Garen with Ancient Golem is an unkillable demon king.
Edit: also people are picking akali again
could they not? Every akali on the enemy team goes 28/0 in 13 minutes and ours goes 0/12 in 6 minutes.
Just delete akali already ffs
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lol
Think because of the rise of old assassins like talon being picked up, people wanted to try kat and akali too.
Think because of the rise of old assassins like talon being picked up, people wanted to try kat and akali too.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
I don't think people ever stopped playing Akali.
Also known as the Riven paradox. And how is Jungle Garen trolling ? It might be if you build golem, but if you're a real man that builds lizard then it's totally legit.
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Garen jungle is trolling because it's trash, lol
But seriously look at this ****, their akali, our akali, their akali
It's not difficult to not feed her, I did nothing to deserve this >:[
But seriously look at this ****, their akali, our akali, their akali
It's not difficult to not feed her, I did nothing to deserve this >:[
So like, I still have a 90% win rate with mid nocturne out of like 25 games this season.
I don't think there are many mana using champions that can outdo his sustain in mid (Kayle). It's really neglected and really really dumb lol.
Like, the more I play it, the more I go "oh wow, nocturne hard counters them too"; "what do they legitimately have to deal with this?". If they are super-harass heavy early you don't really mind, by the time you have 2-3 levels in Q you're almost one shotting waves and getting 6+ procs of your passive in under a second at 500 movement speed without creep blocking while also being very easy to tap your lane enemy with it's 1000 range as well. If he hard engages you, it's like Jarvan but lamer.
You can't push him out of lane either, I sit around at 150 health not giving a **** because spell shield, lol, then I level up and for every level I gain, lane match ups go 10 points in my favour. If I can get to tiamat without the game being over, I have not lost yet. His roam is unrivaled.
I don't think there are many mana using champions that can outdo his sustain in mid (Kayle). It's really neglected and really really dumb lol.
Like, the more I play it, the more I go "oh wow, nocturne hard counters them too"; "what do they legitimately have to deal with this?". If they are super-harass heavy early you don't really mind, by the time you have 2-3 levels in Q you're almost one shotting waves and getting 6+ procs of your passive in under a second at 500 movement speed without creep blocking while also being very easy to tap your lane enemy with it's 1000 range as well. If he hard engages you, it's like Jarvan but lamer.
You can't push him out of lane either, I sit around at 150 health not giving a **** because spell shield, lol, then I level up and for every level I gain, lane match ups go 10 points in my favour. If I can get to tiamat without the game being over, I have not lost yet. His roam is unrivaled.
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Shaya we should 1 vs 1, Fiora vs Nocturne one day imo
Yeah, I'd say Fiora would win, haha.
If going by the experience of a 3 item fiora kicking my 6 item master yi's ass on more than 1 occasion.
If I spell shielded your ult I could pull something off from 6, early game though you'd devastate me probably. I'd maybe max out E, which is what I do against Lee Sin, which may allow me to out trade you (although you have all da up front burst :X). Like I'd be able to relatively easily get spell shield procs, perhaps out kite you through Q trades. We kinda do the same cheese in lane except I have a spell shield, hard cc, global ultimate and much more AoE.
If going by the experience of a 3 item fiora kicking my 6 item master yi's ass on more than 1 occasion.
If I spell shielded your ult I could pull something off from 6, early game though you'd devastate me probably. I'd maybe max out E, which is what I do against Lee Sin, which may allow me to out trade you (although you have all da up front burst :X). Like I'd be able to relatively easily get spell shield procs, perhaps out kite you through Q trades. We kinda do the same cheese in lane except I have a spell shield, hard cc, global ultimate and much more AoE.
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john!
Smash Hero
i love when people talk about poorly designed champs that aren't assassins
it's just funny to me that we have an entire class of champs that are complete bull**** and people like to talk about trynd and ****
it's just funny to me that we have an entire class of champs that are complete bull**** and people like to talk about trynd and ****
Dre. brought up tryn so yeah
lol
lol
IMO right now, LB really is in a pretty good spot as an assassin, but her skill curve/ceiling is quite out of reach for a majority I'd say. I don't think Assassins should have completely free laning/lopsided match ups, they're meant to be ANTI-CARRIES in team fight scenarios, they should be potent at killing but not potent at ****ing everything, I agree. Assassins having free farming, free laning (no resource management, potent escapes and range), great scaling (often better in the ways which carries are meant to exist for), still being exceptional at assassination and currently have the most potent itemization choices (imo, AP is bogus and most AD assassins have never been known for counter play, just whether or not they're too weak to actually be viable any single or dual item is enough to make people sad).
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Zed is countered by like every single defensive mechanism in the game because he can only kill someone in a 3 second window unless he's insanely fed. He also dies if he gets hit by a single CC because he's not Kassadin, who can nuke people without needing a +60 second ult, is tanky, and has more mobility.
The champions I find cancerous are the ones that have enough damage nuke people or put out considerable DPS, but can't be countered by blowing them up in one CC because they're tanky or have some invincibility mechanic. Invincibility on DPS champions who aren't reliant on spells to do damage is really cancerous because there is almost no drawback to them having an invincibility ult as it doesn't really hamper their damage in any away. They effectively do the same damage as other champions, whilst also being invincibile.
I've never minded champions like Vayne because she'll still die in one morg binding. But if someone like Kassasin or Kayle gets ahead there's basically no real counterplay to it. Your entire team will have to blow everything on them to ensure they die, because they have high burst/dps but also don't die instantly, meaning that the other carries on their team are left to DPS freely.
This is applicable to every single champion in the game. Literally ALL of them.
Also please use the custom color option, I'm sick of seeing this horrible red.
Squishy champions will still die in one hard CC. A Vayne can be fed but she'll still die to a bruiser+mage/assassin spell rotation if she gets binded or ulted by Vi. Whereas someone like Kass or Ryze will still survive yet do the damage of someone who has itemised purely for damage.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
Seconding Aero for the "use the cusom color option in the preferences" motion. Unless you want to openly admit that your only goal when posting is to annoy people as much as possible, in which case then carry on.
Or how about, you respect people's preferences and don't try and change every thing that you don't like.
Dre, switch your custom color option to red rather than posting entirely and only in color=red. 
Not only does it make less work for you, it's not annoying to us.
I don't really care about the color. Don't be a stick in the mud.
Dre's posts tend to be half annoying anyways when talking about league even without the color.
Dre's posts tend to be half annoying anyways when talking about league even without the color.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
Suck it nerdDre, switch your custom color option to red rather than posting entirely and only in color=red.
You guys seem to be the only people to care, people on other boards don't seem to mind. Either that or they're too polite to say anything lol.Not only does it make less work for you, it's not annoying to us.
Btw how necessary are sorc boots on mages? If mages bought CDR boots they'd get max CDR. The only AP I play is Rumble, and I get sorcs on him during laning phase a lot because he's mpen dependant and they're good for roaming.
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I think the point is switching your custom color to red makes it easier for you so you don't have to do it every time, and easier on the eyes for others because they can disable custom colors. I'm using smashboards dark and your posts look like garbodor.
You could just change it to bronze though :^)
You could just change it to bronze though :^)
http://smashboards.com/account/preferences
or just click on your name on the top right and look for preferences if that link doesn't work
custom text color is the third from the bottom
also: oh
or just click on your name on the top right and look for preferences if that link doesn't work
custom text color is the third from the bottom
also: oh
Thanks
Also I realised the way I made the silver comment probably came across as if I was proud of it, or if I thought that it meant that I'm a good player. Honestly I stopped thinking rank was a reflection of skill when I started laning against high elo players in normals and ranked 5s and realised they're not that much different to low elo players. The best player I've ever laned against is unranked (although his normal MMR pulls diamonds and challengers and he pretty much always stomps them in lane).
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Lol
I don't wanna jinx it but I think I might finally get out of D3.
Whether I get out or not, because this felt like a Wild ride I could not get off the past 2 or 3 weeks of playing ranked solely cause I was beginning to play the game less and less, watching same LCS picks/games with people going completely insane if there's finally something out of the meta making me ****ing bored with even that too, I decided to do ranked only to find a reason to play it and get motivation to either keep climbing if actually doing well or climb back up if pushed down to the bottom.
Imma tell a bit of a story from this ride, gather around kiddies.
Whether I get out or not, because this felt like a Wild ride I could not get off the past 2 or 3 weeks of playing ranked solely cause I was beginning to play the game less and less, watching same LCS picks/games with people going completely insane if there's finally something out of the meta making me ****ing bored with even that too, I decided to do ranked only to find a reason to play it and get motivation to either keep climbing if actually doing well or climb back up if pushed down to the bottom.
Imma tell a bit of a story from this ride, gather around kiddies.
D5: 41 wins ?? losses achieved
Even tho getting D5 was almost 3 or 4 months ago, leading up to D4 and eventually D3 was a breeze for some reason. I counted the days wrong though once I stopped at 35 points and decayed to D4 and a new badly named division called "Maokai's Captains". No name has nothing to do with it just saiyan.
Climbing back into D3 was a breeze yet again, think 4 straight wins or one loss in there because I landed on 99 points, hell freezes over. I decided since I might as well play ranked a bunch, learn a few new characters for their roles. Kayle again despite being nerfed, Rengar jungle over top, and a couple others while also going back to old picks that're fotm or out of flavor now Kha'zix Xerath and Jinx etc.
First game to climb back up was Rengar jungle I believe where I went 9/0 something, pretty good start. Then I lost 4 in a row. I hate to be that guy and blame teammates, but some people. Throughout the past 17 or so days of ranked since I decayed I can only comfortably say there's truly been 2 or maybe even 3 at max games where it was entirely my fault and we lost cause of it.
With me losing on not only champs that I used to play a lot in normals or back then like Twitch skarner rengar ori zed, I tried out of the box for once (no pun intended) and played Shaco Swain Kha'zix and Liss.
Is Swain broken or something? Out of the 6 or so games I've seen him (not including mine) he's only lost once. 5-1 from enemy/my teammates and me even going 3-0 with Swain, 8-1. My Kha'zix games skyrocketed from like 3 in this season to my top 3 most played (24 games now), not broken but fun and building pure damage until tank as either 4th or 5th item.
Now for huge tilt, think it was a Rengar game a week back when somebody said (which I didn't think was possible because usually higher diamond gets on spectate live thing or if mid diamond, then most likely a popular streamers smurf) that he saw me in the spectate matches and said I was ****, didn't respond of course but after two failed ganks not only did the enemy team chastise me, but so did my teammates (of course) since somebody else said something about a person, they'll believe that like the second coming and just make them feel worse. So I tilted that game and even more along the way and fell all the way to D5 for the first time.
Don't think I ever tilted this hard. I didn't "do well" in my 2-4 (max) loss streaks, but even if I did well with like... Jinx in lane going 4-0 before 15 minutes, some games weren't salvageable cause my teammates would want to type more than actually play the game while also losing smite wars against mumu or Nautilaus.
Think the game is in my match history still too, even in diamond people will still choose the dumbest **** and we'd most likely lose cause of it. Oddly enough most of the losses from Bot laners.
Once an ad/support that didn't play either roles so Ali going in too hot and dying asking where his teammates are when we're on other side of map + Sivir that rushes essence reaver 20 minutes in with under 90 cs while 0-6. Ziggs cass and Mundo support too that resulted in losses when I get myself and other lanes fed.
There's actually a game from today where our teammates said in chat before it started to invade. Eve and I went to the enemy blue but the other three didn't respond fast enough, one of em was smoking dunno about other two. Either way ad got double and mid got a lead so those two didn't do well while our top was fed, couldn't carry us sadly.
Now next game is the kicker, the blitz from last game where this all happened was getting mad at the end of it and started blaming me for some reason when him and lucian (granted ad got early kills but thresh was getting the kills, 5-0 before 10 minutes somehow) were getting **** on bot.
Didn't respond like usual, but got him next game. He proceeded to say I was **** and wanted to afk, didn't ban, and chose aatrox with clarity cleanse. Thankfully somebody dodged 3 seconds before the game started but holy **** Solo queue. Calm the **** down m8o. Next two games after that bad early start turned into wins for me to get into promos.
Now what's the moral of this long ****ty story? Audino to be honest. Doesn't matter what tier you're in you'll get bronze level players still along with trolls that'll risk their entire being to make sure they say you're **** before the Bloody Defeat covers their screen? You never actually escape bronze, not even in Diamond. A polished piece of **** is still a piece of **** lol.
Fallen from D3 to D4 I believe 4 times now and D5 only once during my massive tilt and rito's system giving me teammates on tilt like me as well.
Keep climbin' but remember that if things go too well for you, it'll only end badly in the end I guess.
Small notes if don't feel like reading all this and just want the nitty gritty on champs.
Trist is broken. Whether she does shiv **** and splits all day or builds actual damage while just pushing you to tower and jungler not helping you early on and people are wondering why she's mid with IE and zeal despite having no kills, she's dumb. Ban her.
As much as I hate trick2g, udyrs that don't go madstone means you automatically lose.
Swain Talon Akali and Kat have risen to mid/top again. Play them, a game I could've lost was won because an akali got double buffs against a nid and turned into a 25+/2 monster before the game ended
Jarvan too oddly enough for top and jungle. Good success but prolly even in terms of w/l
Jinx secretly OP bot or something. People forgot she can snowball before trist hits lategame?
Don't play Thresh support if AD too ***** to follow up on your plays
Fizz still obnoxious and even if he loses lane he wins game once he finishes lich bane.
Warwick jungle cannot work, even Shaco jungle more successful.
Kha'zix is a cool guy.
If you play Shaco, play him. It mite werk out
D3: 131 wins
106 losses
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24089452#profile
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Hailfire+Slush
There's some where I'm like negative for sure like Kayle 0/6 or kennen 3/8. Basically either "game is over splitpush all day" or my role was just to be a sponge for all their damage while dishing out some.
Even tho getting D5 was almost 3 or 4 months ago, leading up to D4 and eventually D3 was a breeze for some reason. I counted the days wrong though once I stopped at 35 points and decayed to D4 and a new badly named division called "Maokai's Captains". No name has nothing to do with it just saiyan.
Climbing back into D3 was a breeze yet again, think 4 straight wins or one loss in there because I landed on 99 points, hell freezes over. I decided since I might as well play ranked a bunch, learn a few new characters for their roles. Kayle again despite being nerfed, Rengar jungle over top, and a couple others while also going back to old picks that're fotm or out of flavor now Kha'zix Xerath and Jinx etc.
First game to climb back up was Rengar jungle I believe where I went 9/0 something, pretty good start. Then I lost 4 in a row. I hate to be that guy and blame teammates, but some people. Throughout the past 17 or so days of ranked since I decayed I can only comfortably say there's truly been 2 or maybe even 3 at max games where it was entirely my fault and we lost cause of it.
With me losing on not only champs that I used to play a lot in normals or back then like Twitch skarner rengar ori zed, I tried out of the box for once (no pun intended) and played Shaco Swain Kha'zix and Liss.
Is Swain broken or something? Out of the 6 or so games I've seen him (not including mine) he's only lost once. 5-1 from enemy/my teammates and me even going 3-0 with Swain, 8-1. My Kha'zix games skyrocketed from like 3 in this season to my top 3 most played (24 games now), not broken but fun and building pure damage until tank as either 4th or 5th item.
Now for huge tilt, think it was a Rengar game a week back when somebody said (which I didn't think was possible because usually higher diamond gets on spectate live thing or if mid diamond, then most likely a popular streamers smurf) that he saw me in the spectate matches and said I was ****, didn't respond of course but after two failed ganks not only did the enemy team chastise me, but so did my teammates (of course) since somebody else said something about a person, they'll believe that like the second coming and just make them feel worse. So I tilted that game and even more along the way and fell all the way to D5 for the first time.
Don't think I ever tilted this hard. I didn't "do well" in my 2-4 (max) loss streaks, but even if I did well with like... Jinx in lane going 4-0 before 15 minutes, some games weren't salvageable cause my teammates would want to type more than actually play the game while also losing smite wars against mumu or Nautilaus.
Think the game is in my match history still too, even in diamond people will still choose the dumbest **** and we'd most likely lose cause of it. Oddly enough most of the losses from Bot laners.
Once an ad/support that didn't play either roles so Ali going in too hot and dying asking where his teammates are when we're on other side of map + Sivir that rushes essence reaver 20 minutes in with under 90 cs while 0-6. Ziggs cass and Mundo support too that resulted in losses when I get myself and other lanes fed.
There's actually a game from today where our teammates said in chat before it started to invade. Eve and I went to the enemy blue but the other three didn't respond fast enough, one of em was smoking dunno about other two. Either way ad got double and mid got a lead so those two didn't do well while our top was fed, couldn't carry us sadly.
Now next game is the kicker, the blitz from last game where this all happened was getting mad at the end of it and started blaming me for some reason when him and lucian (granted ad got early kills but thresh was getting the kills, 5-0 before 10 minutes somehow) were getting **** on bot.
Didn't respond like usual, but got him next game. He proceeded to say I was **** and wanted to afk, didn't ban, and chose aatrox with clarity cleanse. Thankfully somebody dodged 3 seconds before the game started but holy **** Solo queue. Calm the **** down m8o. Next two games after that bad early start turned into wins for me to get into promos.
Now what's the moral of this long ****ty story? Audino to be honest. Doesn't matter what tier you're in you'll get bronze level players still along with trolls that'll risk their entire being to make sure they say you're **** before the Bloody Defeat covers their screen? You never actually escape bronze, not even in Diamond. A polished piece of **** is still a piece of **** lol.
Fallen from D3 to D4 I believe 4 times now and D5 only once during my massive tilt and rito's system giving me teammates on tilt like me as well.
Keep climbin' but remember that if things go too well for you, it'll only end badly in the end I guess.
Small notes if don't feel like reading all this and just want the nitty gritty on champs.
Trist is broken. Whether she does shiv **** and splits all day or builds actual damage while just pushing you to tower and jungler not helping you early on and people are wondering why she's mid with IE and zeal despite having no kills, she's dumb. Ban her.
As much as I hate trick2g, udyrs that don't go madstone means you automatically lose.
Swain Talon Akali and Kat have risen to mid/top again. Play them, a game I could've lost was won because an akali got double buffs against a nid and turned into a 25+/2 monster before the game ended
Jarvan too oddly enough for top and jungle. Good success but prolly even in terms of w/l
Jinx secretly OP bot or something. People forgot she can snowball before trist hits lategame?
Don't play Thresh support if AD too ***** to follow up on your plays
Fizz still obnoxious and even if he loses lane he wins game once he finishes lich bane.
Warwick jungle cannot work, even Shaco jungle more successful.
Kha'zix is a cool guy.
If you play Shaco, play him. It mite werk out
D3: 131 wins
106 losses
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24089452#profile
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Hailfire+Slush
There's some where I'm like negative for sure like Kayle 0/6 or kennen 3/8. Basically either "game is over splitpush all day" or my role was just to be a sponge for all their damage while dishing out some.
Ussi
Smash Legend
"Blah blah blah Swain really good winrate blah blah blah"
I called this 5 days ago
I called this 5 days ago