egaddmario
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I know it would be silly, i'm just asking if it's possible to proc it.
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Ussi
Smash Legend
Forget fotm, locket pls
Locket might be even better on more junglers now outside of just Elise fer the cdr.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
Alistar maybe ?
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Alistar heal isn't targetted though. So dunno. Does just using FoM or Mikeals active count as ardent chaser giving AS?
iirc they took out the need for the heal/shield to target
Alistar, Thresh, Karma, etc. can just give their entire team the attack speed boost
Alistar, Thresh, Karma, etc. can just give their entire team the attack speed boost
Think the new early OP items for AD carries mite be double D blade with brut/nippon steel blade.
Oh look, they finally buffed the item only ever feasibly worthwhile on ranged carries after all this time of basically no usage because it was **** on everyone.
Is it just me or is Essence Reaver (or whatever it's called) trash?
Not enough AD, and/or not enough mana regen. The mana you get from it feels like nothing especially because it's attached to auto attacks (and if you really need mana as an AD character it's presumably because you're using spells and infrequently auto attacking). The 50 AD just doesn't seem worth the slot when you're looking for a damage item.
Manamune does a better job of solving mana problems and provides more AD. The 10% CDR and lifesteal just doesn't seem worth it when those stats are so easy to come by in other items you want to be building anyways.
Not enough AD, and/or not enough mana regen. The mana you get from it feels like nothing especially because it's attached to auto attacks (and if you really need mana as an AD character it's presumably because you're using spells and infrequently auto attacking). The 50 AD just doesn't seem worth the slot when you're looking for a damage item.
Manamune does a better job of solving mana problems and provides more AD. The 10% CDR and lifesteal just doesn't seem worth it when those stats are so easy to come by in other items you want to be building anyways.
It's 2650 I think and gives only 50 AD. You do the math on y it's bad lol.
I had a long discussion about this yesterday with someone.
Essence Reaver contradicts Riot's design philosophies in a lot of ways. And even its intended "niche" or the merit for buying it is rather meagre considering.
What do people want? The AD equivalent of chalice. Chalice is 800 gold. What's the AD equivalent of chalice they've given us? 2.6k. Yeah. Why? Absolutely ********. Oh, only applies to auto attack damage. Not the people (Pantheon for example) that would like an AD chalice. Oh and I bet that the bonus damage of muramana doesn't scale with it.
Its stats and abilities for a mid or late game item is horrendous, and it only otherwise has synergy with muramana users.
Oh so we have an item that exists that got nerfed, so Riot's choice in response is to create a secondary item that is useless without muramana in any competitive setting, when just about any other item choice at the same amount of gold is going to significantly outweigh reaver in EVERY situation. So what have they done? They've made an item without a USABLE niche, and the only mildly acceptable situation to build it (to off shoot Muramana costs) is a ****ing noob trap (please tell me Last Whisper, Frozen Fist or Bloodthirster won't be completely out doing the item at every stage of the game).
Why did they even give it a fancy name? Just call it "Noob Muramana User Trap"
Where does it even get the 10% CDR from either? Where's the "common sense" and consistency we always love hearing as the reason for nerfing/changing things... When we get this?
Great, I can spam skills on Ezreal (or the new age better version of Ezreal: Lucian). Literally the only character I could mildy see it being great on. Blue Ezreal doesn't have enough item slots to fit this in, so it is an otherwise selfish purchase which doesn't help him early (WHAT PART OF MANA IS ONLY PROBLEMATIC IN LANE [for majority of the cast] AT THIS POINT OF TIME BECAUSE RIOT HAVE MASSACRED ANY SENSE OF RESOURCE MANAGEMENT IN THIS GAME DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND!) nor late. Geegee.
Essence Reaver contradicts Riot's design philosophies in a lot of ways. And even its intended "niche" or the merit for buying it is rather meagre considering.
What do people want? The AD equivalent of chalice. Chalice is 800 gold. What's the AD equivalent of chalice they've given us? 2.6k. Yeah. Why? Absolutely ********. Oh, only applies to auto attack damage. Not the people (Pantheon for example) that would like an AD chalice. Oh and I bet that the bonus damage of muramana doesn't scale with it.
Its stats and abilities for a mid or late game item is horrendous, and it only otherwise has synergy with muramana users.
Oh so we have an item that exists that got nerfed, so Riot's choice in response is to create a secondary item that is useless without muramana in any competitive setting, when just about any other item choice at the same amount of gold is going to significantly outweigh reaver in EVERY situation. So what have they done? They've made an item without a USABLE niche, and the only mildly acceptable situation to build it (to off shoot Muramana costs) is a ****ing noob trap (please tell me Last Whisper, Frozen Fist or Bloodthirster won't be completely out doing the item at every stage of the game).
Why did they even give it a fancy name? Just call it "Noob Muramana User Trap"
Where does it even get the 10% CDR from either? Where's the "common sense" and consistency we always love hearing as the reason for nerfing/changing things... When we get this?
Great, I can spam skills on Ezreal (or the new age better version of Ezreal: Lucian). Literally the only character I could mildy see it being great on. Blue Ezreal doesn't have enough item slots to fit this in, so it is an otherwise selfish purchase which doesn't help him early (WHAT PART OF MANA IS ONLY PROBLEMATIC IN LANE [for majority of the cast] AT THIS POINT OF TIME BECAUSE RIOT HAVE MASSACRED ANY SENSE OF RESOURCE MANAGEMENT IN THIS GAME DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND!) nor late. Geegee.
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I've been feeling like this for a lot of the cast more recently, this mana cost power creep has been going for a long time.
Oh, and it basically has the same cost/stats as Zeke's Herald.
Yeah I agree. I built it on Quinn earlier today because I was hella ahead anyway and just fooling around, but it's not something I could justify buying on almost any character. It needs an AD buff at least, and I definitely agree that mana is a problem early game, and this is a finished item. It's like if Chalice gave no mana regen until you finished Athenes... which might not be a bad idea actually 
teluoborg
Smash Otter
Sometimes I wonder if the game wouldn't be better if they removed mana/enery from the game.
Then I go back to playing adventure time battle party.
Then I go back to playing adventure time battle party.
essence reaver sucks
only good on champs like ezreal who can make use of the infinite mana it ives you to **** out q's on 40% cdr like its nothing
even then you sell it and buy a cleaver lategame anyways just a bad item lol, they need to either make it much cheaper or make it cost MORE and give better stats/more mana return
only good on champs like ezreal who can make use of the infinite mana it ives you to **** out q's on 40% cdr like its nothing
even then you sell it and buy a cleaver lategame anyways just a bad item lol, they need to either make it much cheaper or make it cost MORE and give better stats/more mana return
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
Idk gamefaqs says you guys are all wrong http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/954437-league-of-legends/69475834
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Sorry but you guys are wrong. My que partner and I have been running it on Jinx to great effect since its release. The item is very easy to rush early and provides an absolutely insane sustain boost. We haven't lost a game with it yet.
I came to ask if anyone caught what the Ardent Censor issue was. I was using the item on Lux support and I think I saw the attack speed buff stack twice on occasion, but I am not sure. Does anyone know what it was?
Also Lux support is pretty great with the new item, minus its horrible matchup with Morgana. Giving your whole team a 25 attack speed bounus for 7 seconds (adding a second for the second swing around) is a fantastic siege item.
I came to ask if anyone caught what the Ardent Censor issue was. I was using the item on Lux support and I think I saw the attack speed buff stack twice on occasion, but I am not sure. Does anyone know what it was?
Also Lux support is pretty great with the new item, minus its horrible matchup with Morgana. Giving your whole team a 25 attack speed bounus for 7 seconds (adding a second for the second swing around) is a fantastic siege item.
Jinx with infinite rockets sounds neat... but I feel like buying any other item is going to be just as good if not better.
If it was cheaper I would be all up on it, but with its current cost it needs a pretty significant boost in its stats.
If it was cheaper I would be all up on it, but with its current cost it needs a pretty significant boost in its stats.
#HBC | Red Ryu
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I like the item on lane pantheon and ezreal.
Outside of that, not much else.
Outside of that, not much else.
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Was gonna ask if Crashic was Dre, but now I'm not sure.
"Why not Both?"
Malkior7
Majestic Space Pirate
That Draven skin
¿Por que no los dos?"Why not Both?"
Ok I'll admit I was wrong. I thought Skarner would be maximum garbage this patch, but he seems usable. I can't tell if he's strong or just average, because I was just trying him in normals so it's hard to tell. I played him top then jungle, both seemed pretty strong. He can fight for a long time and you can't run away from him, but he runs out of mana eventually, even with iceborne. His lategame damage sucks (unless you can fight them forever, then you might win) but he's a pretty good initiator and peeler.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
rip in pepperonis
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
Maybe you could get that new thing on him.
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I'd stick with frozen mittens for now for mana issues and his obvious super synergy with it.
Ussi
Smash Legend
I think RoA should be built on more than just Kassidin
So basically you paid 2k gold to become a better Janna?
now sis, that's a biT mean
Anivia, Ryze, Swain, Annie(?), Sorka, Cho'Gath, Morgana(?), Singed, Karthus, Malzahar, Gragas, Diana
And Rengar
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No to Diana morgana soraka and gragas.
I buy it on Sorka! It's a fabulous item for her since lane sustain and it makes her E really sting.
My point mostly was it's not just Kass that buys it though.
My point mostly was it's not just Kass that buys it though.
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Um
A statement that I would like clarification on
I heard Support Gragas was a thing now
A statement that I would like clarification on
I heard Support Gragas was a thing now
Edward plays it
but it's Gambit and they're not doing so well.
but it's Gambit and they're not doing so well.
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Okay, thanks.
I was scared it's gonna be a FotM
Which scares me even more because like a month or two after it become FotM it becomes FotM in Bronze and that screws us all up because no one can play said FotM
Does anyone in silver or above ban these champs:
Kayle
LeBlanc
Fizz
Braum
Master Yi
Xin Zhao
etc?
I was scared it's gonna be a FotM
Which scares me even more because like a month or two after it become FotM it becomes FotM in Bronze and that screws us all up because no one can play said FotM
Does anyone in silver or above ban these champs:
Kayle
LeBlanc
Fizz
Braum
Master Yi
Xin Zhao
etc?