Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[teluoborg]

kayle should be deleted along with nunu, **** those champions

P3's list of champs that should be deleted :
-everyone

Exceptions :
-no
-maybe Morde

Is this accurate Y/N ?

 

[Sunnysunny]

You play league?

Ha!
Very recently, yea. My friends have been wanting me to get into it so I finally caved in. I literally started playing 3 days ago, but I gotta admit it's really fun and a lot more indepth then I thought. So far i'm playing around with Nasus and Fizz. Like, wtf is up with all videogame incarnations of Anubis playing the same? Nasus is basically the come back king of LoL as Lucario is in brawl. Not that i'm complaining sense i'm familiar with that kinda patient early game playstyle, but just such a weird coincidence. ._.

But yeh, so far i'm having a lot of fun. Who do you play Slushy~?

 

[Sinister Slush]

A little over 20 champions I'm too lazy to list. Was mostly quoting your post for a name maybe and whenever you get level 30 I guess.

 

[Shaya]

If 1:1 AP ratios are against the rules, nivia is ****ed.
It's funny that AD casters have dominated for a year and a half or so but we'd much rather keep the AP's below the bell curve and continue to have stupidly designed ad casters/tanky deeps running rampant with toxicity. "Oh my Zed actually takes damage instead of free farming with perfect cs and it's getting in the way of me one shotting carries with the press of a button, needs a nerf, kayle is broken"

It takes way too long for the league community to adjust to "suddenly strong" (read: not really) champions unless they get nerfed first. Champs that have always been designed to **** up specific classes of characters have been underused / comparatively underpowered for very long periods of time and people forget that those same "now stupidly OP characters" actually have... COUNTERS.

 

[john!]

If 1:1 AP ratios are against the rules, nivia is ****ed.

silence, you fool! there are rioters in this thread!

 

[Shaya]

silence, you fool! there are rioters in this thread!

Well they did just give her a small buff. You know what that means.
She's on the chopping board and they're just sharpening that knife.

 

[Player-3]

P3's list of champs that should be deleted :
-everyone

Exceptions :
-no
-maybe Morde

Is this accurate Y/N ?

no, just kayle nunu and maybe yorick

 

[Dre89]

If 1:1 AP ratios are against the rules, nivia is ****ed.
It's funny that AD casters have dominated for a year and a half or so but we'd much rather keep the AP's below the bell curve and continue to have stupidly designed ad casters/tanky deeps running rampant with toxicity. "Oh my Zed actually takes damage instead of free farming with perfect cs and it's getting in the way of me one shotting carries with the press of a button, needs a nerf, kayle is broken"

It takes way too long for the league community to adjust to "suddenly strong" (read: not really) champions unless they get nerfed first. Champs that have always been designed to **** up specific classes of characters have been underused / comparatively underpowered for very long periods of time and people forget that those same "now stupidly OP characters" actually have... COUNTERS.

Being AD is inherently better than being AP with the way the game is designed. Investing in AD not only powers up your spells, but also powers up your auto attacks. That not only makes your trades better, because a trade in lane normally consists of spells plus autos, so by investing in AD you hit two birds with one stone, but it also makes you do more damage on turrets and makes last hitting a lot easier. Your main source of damage is targeted, costs no resources, has no cooldown, procs additional effects for free and is also a free form of sustain/healing thanks to lifesteal. You also do more damage to neutral monsters. On top of all this, every champion in the game has innate AD and AS scaling, yet there is no AP scaling, and you start the game with 0 AP if you do not invest in AP either through runes/masteries or starting items.

Pretty much the only reason why it's worth running AP on a team is so that the enemy is forced to invest more gold and item slots into defences, due to having to itemise for both armour and magic resistance. If resistances didn't exist, and the only form of defence was health, there would be no reason to use APs. The one thing that APs are probably meant to have over ADs is waveclear, but a lot of AD spells are AOE, and even if an AD champ doesn't have AOE damage there are items that make your auto attacks do AOE damage anyway.

Pretty much any AP champ in the game would be better if their damage was AD instead.

 

[HondaFoo]

lel I was on the Season 4 Worldwide Most LeBlanc Games Played LoLKing List for exactly one day, what am I even doing anymore

Also hi Cindy

 

[Sinister Slush]

That's a thing?
I wonder if I can do that with Twitch. S4 he still isn't in a good spot, but 2-0 with him so far.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Buffing Kayle ult but stating that Poppy's ult is toxic.
I wish I could understand them, but it's just a task in futility.

Kayle's is shorter length and Poppy can DPS more while being CC immune.

Only thing I can think of.

 

[Sinister Slush]

The plus with kayle ult is being able to ult others so I guess that can be considered cancerous.
Cause she is despite having a simple boring playstyle.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ulting other people while being support imo is not a bad thing, the duration maybe but not the spell itself.

Poppy though has 8 seconds at level 16 of immunity, that's a lot harder to deal with when that immunity is CC proof.

 

[HondaFoo]

That's a thing?
I wonder if I can do that with Twitch. S4 he still isn't in a good spot, but 2-0 with him so far.

It's only a thing if you're a loser like me and make it a thing, haaaa

 

[Shaya]

I enjoy Kayle for maximizing the usage of her ult (it isn't about ulting someone who is about to die, its about appropriately negating burst damage on the right targets), whilst having ADC mechanics and skill curve for positioning, kiting, etc.

Her laning is pretty generic, not Shyvana generic but eh, it's basically playing a ranged carry with low cost wave clear (who obviously has competitive damage to boot).

 

[Espy Rose]

Kayle's is shorter length and Poppy can DPS more while being CC immune.

Only thing I can think of.

Poppy can't delete squishies from range in 2 seconds with 2 skills.

 

[Niko45]

Pretty indifferent to Renekton nerfs since 90% of renektons are either just bad or build him wrong so it's actually honestly what I hope to see against me top most of the time.

Can somebody throw me some tips on playing support Karma? Runes/Masteries + general gameplay stuff?

 

[Sinister Slush]

20 damage reduction on mid and top turrets?
Still 3:45 minute turrets along with second one going down at 4:30. ****ing rito lol
EMBRACE THE META

 

[PhantomX]

I mean... it was 3 people vs turrets uncontested.

 

[Player-3]

and it was two extremely fast early game tower pushers in jinx and elise

 

[Sinister Slush]

I know, still funny how riot keeps changing turrets and it doesn't help much. I think C9 did the same thing uncontested but with like vi and annie/lucian.
Also, 8-2 in placements threw me in Plat 3. That's kewl.

 

[john!]

i went 6-4 and got placed in gold 2, dafuq is this

i mean i got to a promo series in like 8 games but climbing is still annoying

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Can somebody throw me some tips on playing support Karma? Runes/Masteries + general gameplay stuff?

21/0/9, ap runes and masteries

empower q and watch them cower at their turret

Also empowered W is really underrated, start a fight at low HP and use it on someone and you can bait people into ganks really easily or outright kill them because lolkarma

I know, still funny how riot keeps changing turrets and it doesn't help much. I think C9 did the same thing uncontested but with like vi and annie/lucian.
Also, 8-2 in placements threw me in Plat 3. That's kewl.

I'm hoping they remove the 20 damage reduction. It's stopping me from taking two turrets when i kill the enemy top laner as fiora in solo queue :<

 

[Life]

What Riot could do about the 2v1 meta is to find a way (ideally multiple ways) to make champions that are strong 1v2 but balanced 1v1. Something like "takes 10 less damage from all sources for each nearby enemy champion" as a passive (obviously adjusting/scaling that number as balance requires) could help. (Actually, isn't that fairly similar to Sion's passive?)

That would probably take a while though.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Sion's passive randomly (40%) negates a large amount of auto attack damage (30/40/50).

I think you're right though, a damage reduction per champion is the way to go. Make it something absurd like 10 + 30 per extra nearby champion.

 

[Z'zgashi]

So basically Wukongs passive.

 

[Life]

I don't play Wu so I wouldn't know... okay yeah sort of like that.

The problem would be making it not absurd in like a 5v5 baron teamfight. 50+ flat damage reduction plus 3-5 tank items? Have fun dying ever.

Could also be a toggleable ability on an energy-based champion which redirects some damage towards their energy bar?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

wait

are we talking about sion passive or tower auto attack reduction passive?

 

[Life]

I'm talking about completely hypothetical new top lane champion passive.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I was talking about towers.

aaawkward

 

[Life]

That would explain a lot.

Carry on I suppose.

 

[Dre89]

Maybe it's just me, but I think that Ancient Coin makes having a roaming support a viable option now. Playmaker supports like Thresh/Elise/Annie could roam to other lanes and not lose out on much gold. They'd still lose out gold wise when they make plays in the jungle, but if they get kills/assists it'd be worth.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

That used to work, roaming Alistar was a thing back in season 2(?) but then Riot nerfed it (and alistar) because they didn't like it.

 

[Shaya]

Roaming meta died when mini golems became harder to kill/also didn't give level 2 anymore as well as the significant nerf to clairvoyance. The main premise behind the roaming meta was the phases that occurred, jungler continuing to farm and the roamer doing early ganks (a lot more junglers in circulation back then weren't known for their pre-6 eminence) or meeting up with the jungler after they've gotten level 2 from mini golems for a triple gank play. After these initials steps there would then be a congregation bot, followed by switch outs on a regular basis.

Alistar was the solo queue roaming meta king, but you'd see a lot of Jarvan, Cho'Gath, Sion and Taric. I believe it is around those times that everyone lost their 2 second stuns as well.

 

[Plum]

RIP the days when Alistar was a tier 1 jungler, support, top metagolem, and AP mid all at the same time.
I miss him being insanely broken in 4/5 positions... it was fun times

 

[Sinister Slush]

Bjergsen was playing Alistar mid quite a bit and doing pretty well before the LCS started in NA. Granted it's Challenger Solo queue and not tournament but that's still something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5N0p1CSsis

Also, a roaming leona support happened during I believe SKT vs Nozone happened a couple days ago, she was 4/0/5 I think before 20 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSc74i6kjTE

 

[Player-3]

ap alistar is still pretty strong tbh with new dfg + lich bane his burst is still oneshot status, and his ult stil makes him incredibly hard to kill while he waits for CDs

 

[john!]

brand is balanced 1v1 but gets a double kill when the jungler ganks him at level 6

boom found the new meta

 

[Z'zgashi]

Karthus > Brand for 1v2s.

 

[Sinister Slush]

I'm pretty sure Karthus doesn't do very well either.