Got a question! Sheik Q&A & FAQ

[Dnyce]

By the way, the safe percent to start ftilting at is 30%. Before that it becomes rather risky because I don't believe you have the frame advantage to actually keep ftilting unless they're DIing improperly or something.

You're half right - Sheik doesn't have frame advantage at that %... but you cannot DI her ftilt.

 

[Abel1994]

i love gimping.

 

[sheikamaru]

gimping wins matches :D

 

[Abel1994]

Then again I main pit so im use to gimping and edge guarding :3

I alwayse do Sheik chain as recovery with a quick back on stage thing.

 

[Zankoku]

I don't think that works if people know that edgehogging kinda kills Sheik's safe recovery options.

 

[phi1ny3]

Yeah, I only try for chain if I don't think they're expecting it or are going too aggressive to edgeguard me offstage, otherwise I'll usually vie for saving my second jump and using an aerial to scare them off the ledge.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I wait for people to ledge hop then i chain during those few moments while they aren't on the ledge.

 

[Abel1994]

I need to play yall tommarow to see how much I suck compared to yall

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

The closest Sheik main to you is either Billy (if he still plays Sheik) or Ed who lives in FL. Not really sure how we'd play lol.

 

[Abel1994]

Stoll doesnt change the fact that I suck and Blow with her.

ima play YOU THEN!

 

[Zankoku]

Uhh, I'm not sure how you plan to do that. Did you buy plane tickets to MI already, or something?

 

[sheikamaru]

what state do u guys live in anyway? i know light is in texas but ..yea lol and krd

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

It says next to
"Location"

 

[sheikamaru]

Not if your on mobile >.>

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

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You can disable the mobile form of the site in your settings. I find it nice, idk why i just really dislike the way mobile smashboards looks

 

[sheikamaru]

O rly???? Sweet ill hop to that! Its annoying when I accidentally unsubscribe and I cant find how to resubscribe through.mobile and I have to go to a comp to do so lol

 

[FEAR977]

Is the "Skid cancelled sheild grab" useful for sheik in any way?

In case someone hasn't seen it...
Skid cancelled sheild grab:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPVB4-NLlsQ


Thoughts?

 

[phi1ny3]

What is the main difference between wifi sheik and offline sheik? I want to know which tangible differences I need to be aware of so I don't lean on certain strats/ignore others too much. I'd assume more needles and less ftilt locks?

@Degree: Might help with a few air release shenanigans, but Sheik's boost grab is actually pretty decent to begin with

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Random Dacus is viable, d-smash might as well be a frame 1 move, Peaople suck at punishing f-smash on shield and needles are like unblockable.

GR-Dacus is virtually impossible unless you're able to guess the time that they are going to break out of your grab. F-tilt becomes like 5x harder to lock with you'll probably end up doing a jab in the middle or an extra f-tilt at the end, angling vanish can also be difficult i you're used to switching your trajectory after u get the momentum boost. I don't think wifi is a good place to seriously practice Sheik, unless like you have the patience to deal with 30% of your inputs going wrong.

 

[Zankoku]

Yeah, being unable to confirm whether your ftilt actually landed or not means you'll often be ftilting twice just because.

 

[sheikamaru]

you'll be sheilding a lot more and being more campy and less aggressive

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Actually you want to shield less on wifi, and spotdodge/roll more.

I mean if you're playing to win on wifi... if you're playing to improve then wifi is a great opportunity to learn how to fight people without being able to shield.

 

[Abel1994]

Can Ankoku become the Pit mod

Sure I dislike him but im tired of Purple doing a poor job and Ankoku seems cooler because I like his avatar.

 

[sheikamaru]

Lol.... either way I hate wifi... I guess it could help one get better to an extent.....


You might even consider online the true hyperbolic time

Spoiler

lag

chamber

Hahaha! ha ha ha ha ha!

 

[Zankoku]

Don't push your luck, Abel.

 

[stealth3654]

The closest Sheik main to you is either Billy (if he still plays Sheik) or Ed who lives in FL. Not really sure how we'd play lol.

What is this "if he still plays Sheik" talk?

Sheik main for life! >:D

Edit: I dropped Snake a while ago and am going all sheik/zelda again. Makes the game so much more fun

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

You just kind of disappeared so I didn't know.

Welcome back

 

[da K.I.D.]

What is this "if he still plays Sheik" talk?

Sheik main for life! >:D

Edit: I dropped Snake a while ago and am going all sheik/zelda again. Makes the game so much more fun

You better!

and if i ever hear about you playing not-shiek again. therell be hell to pay.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

What is this "if he still plays Sheik" talk?

Sheik main for life! >:D

Edit: I dropped Snake a while ago and am going all sheik/zelda again. Makes the game so much more fun

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[phi1ny3]

Just curious, has anyone checked how much advantage fully charged needles has when it hits the opponent? (not on block) I wanna test something.

 

[choknater]

i got better by playing wifi

but now i'm at the point where i can't really learn more about matchups from wifi cuz i get into frame specific punishments and good use of shield and stuff

now i just play snake on wifi lol

 

[phi1ny3]

lol from my initial observation, sheik is annoying to play as on wifi, I do a lot of run in -> PS or jump right in front to bait with how I play, and the fact that it's all off means I usually get hit before I PS, or if I do get it it isn't a powershield and smashes go unpunished And when I jump I still run into dumb stuff because I my spacing gets thrown off by the time I get close.

 

[Dnyce]

Just curious, has Fino checked how much advantage fully charged needles has when it hits the opponent?

*Fixed*

No. lol, but what are you thinking about testing?

lol from my initial observation, sheik is annoying to play as on wifi, I do a lot of run in -> PS or jump right in front to bait with how I play, and the fact that it's all off means I usually get hit before I PS, or if I do get it it isn't a powershield and smashes go unpunished And when I jump I still run into dumb stuff because I my spacing gets thrown off by the time I get close.

Replace power-shielding with walmart combos and you'll be golden on wifi, lmao. I haven't tried her online myself, but that shiz is annoying to no end <.<

 

[phi1ny3]

Ohhhhh, you're fino? lol I was wondering why you seemed familiar lulz

 

[Judo777]

I'm fairly certain its enough to combo into Usmash on ice lol

 

[<π]

I know it true combos into tilts, dash attack and stuff. I think it's damage dependent like all of sheiks comby stuff

 

[sheikamaru]

I can't buffer well apparently :[

 

[<π]

the advantage on needes depends on thier distance from you as well the further they are the higher the advantage I'd wager.

 

[phi1ny3]

Welp, I'll need to test it, but apparently the opponent gets like 1-2 frames over you, if anything (the opponent was able to put up their shield after being hit in frame advance before I could put up mine).

I'd need to toy around with it more though.

 

[<π]

try it at higher percents.

are you doing it at zero percent?