Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Rohanx17]

Probably because I don't have anything else to do aside from work and speculate Smash, but this whole wondering if Geno's in has really taken front and center in my mind, to the point where I find myself extremely tired of this speculation ****. It's such a god damned rollercoaster and I just want to get off of it. From when I was a little kid, unlocking characters in Melee and sort of refusing to believe that Mr. Game and Watch was really the last thing the game had in it, all the way to now where I'm a grown ass man, I want Geno to be a playable character in Smash. It's not so much to ask, you know? This wait is killing me, this up and down and back and forth with insiders and Nintendo increasingly purchasing caulk to seal up the cracks... It's tiresome. I'm biased as all hell but Geno deserved this moment ages ago and it feels like we're waiting for some provable drop of information, our "Smashing Good Time" as it has come to be called, that should have happened not just earlier this year, but tweleve ****ing years ago in Brawl. I hate it, to be quite honest.

I want my boy in Smash, or I want to stop being jerked around. Give me the character or give me the costume and let's end this horse ****.

yeah I can really relate to that. it's funny because looking back I really didn't care much about smash spec at all during 4 characters just sorta came out and I went on with my life, but now I'm devoting an uncomfortable amount of time and brainpower to just waiting for stuff to happen, and I don't think there's a way out except geno, and to be honest sometimes I don't know if that will be enough. I think ultimate tempting us with the possibly of greater things was what got me and many others as hooked as we did. Though the costume is what got me hoping it was the august direct 2 years ago that really let it dig it's claws into me.

In other words gimme geno or something so incredibly disappointing it's able to completely turn me off from ultimate entirely, I'm ready to get off.

 

[Griselda]

Did I mention that I've been taking my Geno figure in my pocket whenever I go out as a good luck charm?

Yeah, that's where this is, now. I just want them to go ahead and say 'He's in' or 'He's not in'.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Food for thought: Cadence of Hyrule was revealed in the last North American Indie before E3 2019 and then was released the week of E3. As Zell said, lightning could strike twice here.

 

[Inawordyes]

Part of me thinks that Fatman’s “don’t name it in public for the shock factor” indie game could be Duck Hunt. I see people people talking about Balloon Fight, Mach Rider, Ice Climbers, Clu Clu Land, Startropics (which has a sequel and is ineligible), Urban Champion, Sheriff, etc.

But nobody is predicting Duck Hunt. A Duck Hunt indie game would be as unexpected as Duck Hunt getting into SM4SH.

 

[TooManyToastahs]

Did I mention that I've been taking my Geno figure in my pocket whenever I go out as a good luck charm?

Yeah, that's where this is, now. I just want them to go ahead and say 'He's in' or 'He's not in'.

Sometimes I just kinda stare at my Geno keychain after I put my car keys in the ignition and think to myself “when the heck are you coming back man”

i think geno fans are slowly becoming gaz with each passing day

 

[a random user]

Part of me thinks that Fatman’s “don’t name it in public for the shock factor” indie game could be Duck Hunt. I see people people talking about Balloon Fight, Mach Rider, Ice Climbers, Clu Clu Land, Startropics (which has a sequel and is ineligible), Urban Champion, Sheriff, etc.

But nobody is predicting Duck Hunt. A Duck Hunt indie game would be as unexpected as Duck Hunt getting into SM4SH.

nintiendo developed nes games that I'm not aware of any sequel past the nes
multiple sports games (not likely)
kung fu
mach rider
duck hunt
baloon fight
barker bill's trick shooting (not likely, based on a 1950's tv show)
clue clue land
devil world
rob the robot (gyromite, stack up)
ice climber
POPEYE (another licensed game)
urban champion
wario's woods
wrecking crew
hogans ally/ wild gunman (both light gun games)
DK jr.
star tropics
donkey kong classic (not country or mario vs dk)
doki doki panic (released in the west as mario bros 2)
yoshi's cookie
might do another for snes if anyone is interested

 

[MisterMike]

Part of me thinks that Fatman’s “don’t name it in public for the shock factor” indie game could be Duck Hunt. I see people people talking about Balloon Fight, Mach Rider, Ice Climbers, Clu Clu Land, Startropics (which has a sequel and is ineligible), Urban Champion, Sheriff, etc.

But nobody is predicting Duck Hunt. A Duck Hunt indie game would be as unexpected as Duck Hunt getting into SM4SH.

Remember when people were brainstorming a Duck Hunt 3D collectathon game? That would be the sickest ****.

Sometimes I just kinda stare at my Geno keychain after I put my car keys in the ignition and think to myself “when ya comin' home, dad?”

ftfy

 

[Rohanx17]

right now i think it's between mach rider, balloon fight, ice climber, urban champion, and the light gun games as a whole(i'd love an fps based on gumshoe). Nothing else makes sense if it is for sure black box only

 

[StarLight42]

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I'd say between now and the middle of September.

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) August 17, 2020

 

[Dan]

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$50 affordable Geno figure yo; just gotta paint those eyes.

 

[CannonStreak]

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I'd say between now and the middle of September.

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) August 17, 2020

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They just never stay straight on what they say, do they?

 

[Andwooooo]

They just never stay straight on what they say, do they?

If they want to be honest, they can’t be exact without risking their credibility.

 

[CannonStreak]

If they want to be honest, they can’t be exact without risking their credibility.

Yeah, but it is still just confusing. The better thing to do is not say anything if they can’t stay straight.

 

[Paraspikey]

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I'd say between now and the middle of September.

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) August 17, 2020

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Right. It does not mean after Gamescom, necessarily.

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) August 17, 2020

You forgot...

 

[Icewolff92]

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I'd say between now and the middle of September.

— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) August 17, 2020

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I will seriously laughing my ass of if we have to wait until September before we get any more news

 

[CannonStreak]

Also, to be clear, I don’t want an exact date, I just want a consistent range of dates. Is that so hard to do?

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I think at this point my dream scenario (assuming a Direct on 28th) would be that it opens with Fighter 7 (perhaps Geno tying in to a Mario RPG placement on SNES online next month?), a decent presentation for the rest of it, and then ending on Fighter 8.

I'm aware that's a big wish for a year that's not really been big on fulfilling those, but after this long a wait, it would make for quite a pleasant surprise.

 

[pinshadow]

I wouldn't panic at all yet. We've been at "Indie Direct this week, news dump before the end of the month" for weeks now, and we've gotten one half of that today. A September presentation could be something else entirely anyway, Smash, Pokemon, another Partner Showcase (they clearly have multiple planned given they called it the first in a series). Just chill and see how stuff plays out.

 

[TTF]

They just never stay straight on what they say, do they?

To be a bit fair, this pandemic has pretty much scrambled everything for everyone so I don't find it surprising if dates are changed, info somebody gets one day is immediately changed the next day.

Like, a nickel for how many times a movie you were wanting to see this year got delayed to later on this year awhile ago and then suddenly it's delayed right into 2021.
* Stares at Godzilla vs. Kong, Sound of Silence playing in the background *

 

[CannonStreak]

To be a bit fair, this pandemic has pretty much scrambled everything for everyone so I don't find it surprising if dates are changed, info somebody gets one day is immediately changed the next day.

Like, a nickel for how many times a movie you were wanting to see this year got delayed to later on this year awhile ago and then suddenly it's delayed right into 2021.
* Stares at Godzilla vs. Kong, Sound of Silence playing in the background *

Guess I shouldn’t be upset at the insiders, but even with this pandemic, I did not think anything would change now.

 

[Paraspikey]

You all also forgot all of these...

I've said Friday of next week numerous times for a Direct.

— NateTheHate2 (@NateTheHate2) August 17, 2020

The time is coming soon.

 

[pinshadow]

Guess I shouldn’t be upset at the insiders, but even with this pandemic, I did not think anything would change now.

Who said anything has changed? Grubb is just one guy and he never said anything about a direct at the end of the month, and even now it's not like he deconfirmed that either.

 

[YsDisciple]

Say, it seems we won't be getting any update to the NSO NES and SNES Libraries? It's been well over a month since DKC got added. Wonder if there may be some games added this month, or if they'll wait till September.

 

[CannonStreak]

Who said anything has changed? Grubb is just one guy and he never said anything about a direct at the end of the month, and even now it's not like he deconfirmed that either.

I did not say he deconfirmed anything, but I don’t think he was the only one hinting at a Direct, or the only one who said anything that I was personally listening to.

 

[okamifire]

Also, if he said “between now and the middle of September”, that’s roughly 28 days, and half of that is 14, so technically 14 days from today, not considering it would show on a weekend, is basically the end of next week or the beginning of the following. Which is when everyone was saying anyway.

 

[pinshadow]

Say, it seems we won't be getting any update to the NSO NES and SNES Libraries? It's been well over a month since DKC got added. Wonder if there may be some games added this month, or if they'll wait till September.

It's only been a month, they seem to be on a 2-3 month schedule now. They'll probably add new games in September. Gee, if only there was some SNES game they could add to correlate with some other release likely happening around the same time. Hmmmmmmmm...

 

[CannonStreak]

So, I must ask: When do you guys think this possible General Direct will be, exactly?

 

[Rural_Juror]

So, I must ask: When do you guys think this possible General Direct will be, exactly?

I'm pretty confident it'll be within the next two weeks.

 

[CannonStreak]

I'm pretty confident it'll be within the next two weeks.

If that turns out to be the case, that's good enough for me!

 

[Elmorethemagician]

I'm so excited, I can't wait...
I feel like we finally might get our wish!

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Looking forward to the Indie Direct on the small hope that Oddity does get a reveal, especially because that game has been in development hell for the last 12 years (Winter 2014...) Here's hoping for a General real soon!

 

[Quincycoatl]

If past experience is anything to go by, if multiple insiders are hinting that a direct is coming soon around the same time, it tends to be accurate. Hopefully this will be the general/Mario direct we've been waiting for (I would speculate that it's a general with a good portion dedicated to Mario plus Geno reveal). If it is this direct, then it seems reasonable to assume that we'll see it within the next two weeks between now and the 31st of the month. It's not the first time that we've gotten a direct or even a Sakurai presentation come down to the wire like this.

 

[StarLight42]

thankfully, Jon says he believes a direct or direct mini will come within the month “maybe right at the end of the month”

 

[T2by4]

thankfully, Jon says he believes a direct or direct mini will come within the month “maybe right at the end of the month”

ANOTHER mini direct

 

[Dukefire]

Welp, I'm unsure to what I should believe with tension still growing on news and challenger #7 & 8 coming soon.

 

[Elmorethemagician]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say this next one might be a general.

 

[Rural_Juror]

Welp, I'm unsure to what I should believe with tension still growing on news and challenger #7 & 8 coming soon.
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Imo I don't think we'll hear anything about Challenger 8 until December at the earliest. Would be really weird to have a DLC season go to next December and release half of it in the first third of that timeframe.

 

[Dukefire]

Imo I don't think we'll hear anything about Challenger 8 until December at the earliest. Would be really weird to have a DLC season go to next December and release half of it in the first third of that timeframe.

Though, I wonder who is going to be challenger 7 to change the pace for FP2?

 

[CopperKoopa]

Star Tropics can't be the revival, as much as I want that. It's western only and had a sequel. Also, Clu Clu Land had a sequel IIRC that never made it to the west. Unless they're counting stuff like Mario Bros or the arcade DKs as original unique IPs unrelated to the core series, there's not many IPs that fit the parameters Fatmanonice put forth for the indie revivals of NES/Fami IPs.

Balloon Fight, Mach Rider, Urban Champion, Ice Climber, the light gun games, the sports games, either ROB game...all good candidates.

There's also some odd, left field choices. Kung Fu counts and was dumb popular, but isn't technically 1st party. Wrecking Crew is a "Mario" game that had "sequels" but could easily be recreated as its own thing. You also COULD do a game like Nazo no Murasamejo, which eventually got a western release much later on the VC. Excitebike is super likely but it had sequels, if not direct ones, so it's up in the air.

I'm also for some reason thinking of more "second party" stuff like Crystalis but I doubt that's it

 

[Deleted member]

Though, I wonder who is going to be challenger 7 to change the pace for FP2?

Nobody really said any fighter so far... Nintendo must be doing well keeping things secret. Or it’s not worth the risk leaking that character. Possibly, another first party or a company that isn’t Capcom, Activision, or Microsoft. I’m sure Square takes very leaks seriously. Geno being associated to both Nintendo and Square makes sense.