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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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The pass had an estimated time frame that extended to December 2021, I am curious how much of that holds true now. It’s possible any obstacles during development could have already been accommodated in that forecast. However I wonder why such a large difference compared to the first pass. Was it ever stated?

Throwing a character in like Geno would help alleviate the difficulties that come with modeling and animating for sure.
I always saw it as a placeholder. Two years for 6 more characters when they did that not once but twice for Smash already in half the time? I do think they were taking worst case scenarios into consideration but I'm still of the mind that, despite everything, Season 2 will be done by the end of next summer at the latest.
 

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The pass had an estimated time frame that extended to December 2021, I am curious how much of that holds true now. It’s possible any obstacles during development could have already been accommodated in that forecast. However I wonder why such a large difference compared to the first pass. Was it ever stated?
1 extra character takes more time, and giving them a longer end date gives them more breathing room. They've also been working on DLC 6 and 7 while 4 and 5 were being finished most likely, so this just gives them a lot more break time, that thing Sakurai desperately needs, even moreso now with Coronavirus being a thing.

It basically was a GDC presentation on the overview of PS5 hardware supposed to given in private before GDC was cancelled. So Sony decided to stream it. It gets REALLY technically. Like talking about compression and decompression programs, hardware accelerators, 3D audio stuff, etc.
Oh and they haven't even talked basics, right? I heard about that somewhere (probably Twitter), where people were annoyed they don't know the important stuff but learned about the super tech stuff that really, really doesn't matter to the vast majority of people who want info.

... kinda like giving us indies instead of the main lineup of 2020, HUH NINTENDO?!

I always saw it as a placeholder. Two years for 6 more characters when they did that not once but twice for Smash already in half the time? I do think they were taking worst case scenarios into consideration but I'm still of the mind that, despite everything, Season 2 will be done by the end of next summer at the latest.
This, though if it's not done, that's just more break time for Sakurai.
 
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Funny thing is that I have a youtube channel and I have a video discussing Geno coming out Monday. So if we get a Direct then, excellent timing right?
 

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I would love Geno to be character #76, but given that I have been waiting for him since I was a little kid playing as him, I could wait a little bit longer and close this era with the Challenger Pack 7 = 77. I could rather see #76 to be another fan pick like Waluigi, Crash, Isaac, Dante or an Indie rep.

After Geno reveal, I could wait even a year without more Smash reveals (just an exaggeration, cause of course it won’t be that time). Also, after Geno gets in, I’m done in speculation/wishing. After the “Geno joins the battle” screen, Im done with all my requests in all gaming.

Just waiting to turn on my Switch and see this from here to June: (credits to the creator of the photo plz).

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Actually imagine if they pulled a Marvel Legends and made each Fighter Pack come with a part of Geno:

7-2B with right leg of Geno
8-Sol Badguy with body of Geno
9-Travis Touchdown with left leg of Geno
10-Master Chief/Steve with arms of Geno
11-Phoenix Wright with head of Geno

Then by buying all the fighters you assemble all the parts and you get Fighter 12: Geno himself.



Hire me Hasbro.
Shhhhhh! Shhhhhh! Don't let Nintendo hear you! There's no telling what atrocities this idea could inspire! And Arceus help us if EA ever thinks of this....
 

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After Geno reveal, I could wait even a year without more Smash reveals (just an exaggeration, cause of course it won’t be that time). Also, after Geno gets in, I’m done in speculation/wishing. After the “Geno joins the battle” screen, Im done with all my requests in all gaming.
Basically same, except the part about "all gaming", replace that with "in Smash". I definitely have other requests for gaming outside of Smash that I'd still want to come to fruition.
I also might pop my head in a few other threads, but I'll be done keeping this one up 24/7 and the majority of giving a crap about speculation for future Smash DLC.
 

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Speaking of obscure characters, I find it hypocritical that some people in the Smash fanbase were happy that the Ice Climbers return but resent Geno, Isaac, K. Rool, and etc because they’re obscure and dead characters.
I think it's just that Ice Climbers have only been relevant due to Smash. A lot of younger play don't realize the context of when Ice Climbers were added in Melee, they were obscure characters.
 
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I think it's just that Ice Climbers have only been relevant due to Smash. A lot of younger play don't realize the context of when Ice Climbers were added in Melee, they were obscure characters.
This. Ice Climbers are only known to Smash fans and Nintendo fans who play NES. The general public... not so much.
 

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I am honestly thankful we have so many amazing talented artists passionate about Geno that we have so many fan renders that we can use.

Which also is kinda weird considering fans have spent more time making Geno renders then Nintendo or Square Enix.
 

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Which also is kinda weird considering fans have spent more time making Geno renders then Nintendo or Square Enix.
As sadly ironic as that is, to be fair, one could argue that there is more video game fan art in existence than was ever officially released for pretty much any character in existence except for maybe Pikachu and some of the more prevalent Pokemon.
 

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As sadly ironic as that is, to be fair, one could argue that there is more video game fan art in existence than was ever officially released for pretty much any character in existence except for maybe Pikachu and some of the more prevalent Pokemon.
I think it's possible individuals creators who created these models have spent more time then Geno's creators did drawing him and creating the sprite art in the first place. Imagine that.
 

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I think it's possible individuals creators who created these models have spent more time then Geno's creators did drawing him and creating the sprite art in the first place. Imagine that.
It says a lot about the impact someone's creation can have on others. It says even more when someone else can take your creation and make it 10x cooler and more exciting than it was when you created it.
 

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If we get a spirit upgrade, my money's on the Magic Doll. Sakurai has a soft spot for the guy and therefore i except him to get at least his costume back, but full-on playable is better.
 

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Was sent this bya fren. Potentially good news for us? Good year to be a plumber AND an RPG fan AND remakes. I know that paper mario thing is gonnna happen, but hopefully this leads to good things for us too.
 

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If we get a spirit upgrade, my money's on the Magic Doll. Sakurai has a soft spot for the guy and therefore i except him to get at least his costume back, but full-on playable is better.
My big fear is him getting a Premium Mii Costume ala Sans and CupHead. A worse fate then Assist Trophy in my opinion.
 

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Y'know, after Cacomallow, I think getting Geno would feel like a hollow victory without Doomguy :(.

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Y'know, after Cacomallow, I think getting Geno would feel like a hollow victory without Doomguy :(.

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Sorry bud, can't relate.

Been wanting Geno to return since 1996 and wanting him in Smash since the early 2000s. Geno getting in is the maximum victory regardless of who else comes after him.
 
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Y'know, after Cacomallow, I think getting Geno would feel like a hollow victory without Doomguy :(.

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Or any Bethesda rep, really. I really want to see Dragonborn make the roster which is another reason why I hope CacoMallow is real. Plus you guys have been waiting for years, if Ridley Banjo and K. Rool got in then Geno has to be next in line, and you deserve to have Geno after years of patience!
 

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Sorry bud, can't relate.
Same. The Mallow part was always more significant than the Caco part. If you're (the general "you") wanting both, I wish you luck, but I'm just here for the doll. It won't at all fell hollow to get the only character I really care to get in at this point.

Or any Bethesda rep, really.
On the other hand, does Bethesda really deserve anything, given what they've done lately in the industry? The main Id-rep is one thing, but an always-Bethesda-rep? Idk how I'd actually feel about that given how they've been lately.
 
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Geno’s the main win for me.

If DOOM Guy doesn’t get in it would suck.

But Geno is in so that is the main thing for me.
 

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Geno’s the main win for me.

If DOOM Guy doesn’t get in it would suck.

But Geno is in so that is the main thing for me.
A question: How would you guys feel if Doomguy was added both a Mii Gunner costume and as part of a DOOM Spirit Event, but his Spirit Battle has you fighting a dark green Master Chief with E1M1 as the background music?
 

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A question: How would you guys feel if Doomguy was added both a Mii Gunner costume and as part of a DOOM Spirit Event, but his Spirit Battle has you fighting a dark green Master Chief with E1M1 as the background music?
And here I thought I couldn't be offended anymore.
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Doomguy is friends with everybody.

>Doomguy friends with a demon

No. As long as you're not some sort of demon Doomguy is pretty cool with peeps.

Also if Doomguy doesn't get in, sure I'll be a little sad since Doombros are cool, but the endgoal is Geno. If Doomguy has to be sacrificed to bring Geno, so be it. Anything it takes to get Geno.
 
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CacoMallow Mii costumes looks pretty legit. Is there a post on all the evidence why it might be real?
 

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CacoMallow Mii costumes looks pretty legit. Is there a post on all the evidence why it might be real?
Of what, CacoMallow? The TL;DR is that a bunch of modders have tried to replicate it and can't quite nail the detail of the Caco hat along with the clean, smooth, hat placement. There's always a tiny amount of clipping here and there and it's very clear that it wasn't done officially. So, unless this is just the best modder in the world making a fake leak that every other modder can't seem to nail down quite right, the costumes seem to be legitimate and official.

I don't have a post from modders, that's just the quick bits. I'm sure PapaGenos did a video on it by now, and if not, I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere.

As a bonus but in no way giving extra credibility to CacoMallow, this also coincides with Mii Costume Leaker who posted Mallow as a new costume (alongside Smithy), and most notably did NOT mention Geno as a costume.
 
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CacoMallow Mii costumes looks pretty legit. Is there a post on all the evidence why it might be real?
Not to my knowledge, but I did make this a while back which covers a few things regarding it. I'm actually a bit interested in making such a post now.
 
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