Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[MattX20]

Well, if there's a general direct next week, that's good, but if not, I seriously doubt Nintendo would push it further back than the middle of April.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I actually would like to hear certain callouts if you have any theories because who at this point has been extremely demanded and left out? Geno's obviously not one of them since Sakurai has explicitly said he'd fit in perfect. ATs maybe? Steve? Shooty-shoot gunbois?

Sakurai seems to like some of the ATs, loves Minecraft, and seems interested in FPS games since he once mentioned the creator of DOOM being the father of the FPS genre, so I don't think he'd be negative towards them.

As for the Steve thing? You know what, you're right. I have been petty and angry about it; but when you get bullied and laughed at and turned into a huge punchline for an entire year over wanting a dumb bear in a platform fighter, it stings. I realize that feeling that way is toxic, and I have as of late tried to be more understanding about it even if I joke about it sometimes, but I also see the same behavior come out of the Geno camp being unnecessarily hostile to the Sora fans from time to time, so how come that goes unspoken?

yeah, people whom hate on others, and are extremely against characters to the point of getting mad and toxic about it, are annoying. Even when I see someone throwing a fit against a character I don't care about, it's annoying.

About Steve, though; while I don't doubt there were some toxic Steve fans, like other fanbases, the majority of the trolls and bullies were just that, trolls, and didn't actually care about Steve. They also harassed real Steve fans for a while, some of which also like or even love Banjo-Kazooie (like me). The trolls even raided the SteveForSmash discord with...disgusting images. Some Banjo fans were also rude to even polite Steve fans, but the "Banjo fans" could've been more trolls so *shrug* I wish there was more fan-art of Steve and Banjo being good pals; a "Microsoft Bros." thing with them, Kazooie, and Master Chief would be cool, too.

Don't know what to say about Sora, but yeah the hatred and generalization of his fanbase is also annoying when it's brought up, even if he doesn't interest me much (I think he could be cool, though; KH seems interesting since I like Disney).

Of course not liking or caring about characters is fine, some people just seem to be obnoxious or flat-out rude/extreme about it in how they word their opinions...

 

[Polarthief]

and no different from someone telling you that Sora won’t get in “cause Disney” or whatever.

Not to continue this topic, but saying Disney deconfirms is a lot different from saying "X fan rule deconfirms". The latter deconfirms until Sakurai and/or Nintendo says it doesn't. The former doesn't when Disney is less of a ****-tier diva. Unless it's going to make them a truckload of money, I just don't see it happening. Could it happen? Absolutely. I mean hell anything can in this world, but there's for sure different tiers of "X deconfirms". Spirits are at the top of the "lol no they don't" list. ATs and Costumes in the middle. Disney's pretty high, and the only "confirmed to deconfirm" so far is "non-video game characters", which means you won't be seeing Goku or Shrek anytime soon until Nintendo and/or Sakurai change their minds in the distant future.

yeah, people whom hate on others, and are extremely against characters to the point of getting mad and toxic about it, are annoying. Even when I see someone throwing a fit against a character I don't care about, it's annoying.

About Steve, though; while I don't doubt there were some toxic Steve fans, like other fanbases, the majority of the trolls and bullies were just that, trolls, and didn't actually care about Steve. They also harassed real Steve fans for a while, some of which also like or even love Banjo-Kazooie (like me). The trolls even raided the SteveForSmash discord with...disgusting images.

Don't know what to say about Sora, but yeah the hatred and generalization of his fanbase is also annoying when it's brought up, even if he doesn't interest me much (I think he could be cool, though; KH seems interesting since I like Disney).

TL;DR: Every group of fans has ****heads in them. Every fandom. Every collective that shares a like of a thing. All of these groups. Never 100% of the group nor 0% of the group, but there will be always at least 1 and less than all of them. It's almost like people generalizing a group of people is a bad thing or something and maybe people should just chill out and not take things so personally/just not be ****heads in general.

Well, if there's a general direct next week, that's good, but if not, I seriously doubt Nintendo would push it further back than the middle of April.

I'm legit giving up if it's not next week. March or bust at this point.

 

[TheCJBrine]

'guess I'll go ahead and share this cursed image I took:

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The Spider Queen mod is fun; here's Spider Geno and his tank spider.

 

[SSGuy]

'guess I'll go ahead and share this cursed image I took:

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View attachment 266201The Spider Queen mod is fun; here's Spider Geno and his tank spider.

Cursed is an understatement lol

 

[Deleted member]

Whoa what happened here?


Well it's not my buisness so carry on as you do, though let's be respectful and nice to each other yes?


Good very good!


Anyway Waluigi I want him in in. Do I think he gets in? No. But hey hope it happens someday.

 

[RuffyYoshi]

So in light of the entire planet being royally ****ed with Kung Flu we can safely say

THERE IS NO SMASH DLC
THERE IS NO E3
THERE IS NO OLYMPICS
THERE ARE NO EVENTS

THERE. IS. NO. 2020.
geno is probably still happening tho​

 

[Shadow__Myth]

'guess I'll go ahead and share this cursed image I took:

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View attachment 266201The Spider Queen mod is fun; here's Spider Geno and his tank spider.

Wow, that's, uh... Thanks for sharing.

 

[waterhasataste]

So on the topic of Waluigi, I'm kinda 50-50. I definitely think he can make it into Ultimate, especially with all the buzz that came up when he was shown as an assist trophy. I definitely think Nintendo has noticed the demand

That being said, I don't think he would be in Fighters Pass 2. Fighters Pass 2 characters come with stage and music as well as a Spirit board and I can't really see how they would fill the other content that would come with Waluigi if he was in the pass. Geno is different of course since the game he stars in has original content not yet in Smash they can pull from. Waluigi though? I'm scratching my head a bit. I think there are a few stages, you could go for, but I struggle with the music. And what about the spirits? I don't know, I feel like you'd really have to stretch to fill in those extra things

I feel like if he is coming, he'd be a good candidate to be a final bonus fighter outside the pass. Assuming there is one that is. You wouldn't have to worry about filling in the extra stuff and can just release Waluigi. Plus, I believe Waluigi wouldn't take as much work to develop compared to other characters. He already has a model and some animations in Ultimate that they can work with. It'd still take work of course, but not as much as a character from scratch would, which is another reason I think him being a final bonus character suits him better. Once again though, that's assuming there is a surprise bonus towards the end

 

[skydogc]

Wow, that's, uh... Thanks for sharing.

I believe you're looking for the phrase, "Thank I hate it."

Somebody Geno Whirl that thing into oblivion please!

 

[Sigran101]

Sakurai seems to like some of the ATs, loves Minecraft, and seems interested in FPS games since he once mentioned the creator of DOOM being the father of the FPS genre, so I don't think he'd be negative towards them.



yeah, people whom hate on others, and are extremely against characters to the point of getting mad and toxic about it, are annoying. Even when I see someone throwing a fit against a character I don't care about, it's annoying.

About Steve, though; while I don't doubt there were some toxic Steve fans, like other fanbases, the majority of the trolls and bullies were just that, trolls, and didn't actually care about Steve. They also harassed real Steve fans for a while, some of which also like or even love Banjo-Kazooie (like me). The trolls even raided the SteveForSmash discord with...disgusting images. Some Banjo fans were also rude to even polite Steve fans, but the "Banjo fans" could've been more trolls so *shrug* I wish there was more fan-art of Steve and Banjo being good pals; a "Microsoft Bros." thing with them, Kazooie, and Master Chief would be cool, too.

Don't know what to say about Sora, but yeah the hatred and generalization of his fanbase is also annoying when it's brought up, even if he doesn't interest me much (I think he could be cool, though; KH seems interesting since I like Disney).

Of course not liking or caring about characters is fine, some people just seem to be obnoxious or flat-out rude/extreme about it in how they word their opinions...

I keep hearing this, but I wonder if it is actually true. I'm not trying to say you're wrong, I'm legitimately asking, how do you know the majority of Steve posters weren't actually Steve fans? Isn't it possible a lot of them were and they just stopped doing it because Banjo got in over Steve?

 

[Polarthief]

Isn't it possible a lot of them were and they just stopped doing it because Banjo got in over Steve?

Which is hilarious to me how defeatist some of them got considering Banjo confirmed Microsoft was even on board, especially that if there is a for-sure 2nd Microsoft rep coming, and it's not MC, I really can't think of anyone else but Steve. I mean hell, look at us still discussing just fine post-Hero because Geno's Sm4sh costume didn't return. I also still see no Minecraft content in the game, so it's entirely possible Steve could be in FP2. I personally hope he's not (because I feel like he'd be a bland-to-play and awkward-looking character, way worse than G&W), but what would be awesome is a Minecraft stage that has enemies from the game and maybe a Steve mining parts of the stage and maybe adding blocks to it as well. There's a lot you could do with a stage like that, and as for music, you could put in a ton of Microsoft stuff.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I keep hearing this, but I wonder if it is actually true. I'm not trying to say you're wrong, I'm legitimately asking, how do you know the majority of Steve posters weren't actually Steve fans? Isn't it possible a lot of them were and they just stopped doing it because Banjo got in over Steve?

Maybe, but I feel a majority of them weren't because they also harassed clear Steve fans (and raided the SteveForSmash discord), some fans don't care about Banjo but aren't mad at him, and some fans like me also like Banjo-Kazooie. I also feel genuine Steve fans wouldn't have made such an ugly render and push it instead of the actual character, as that just gives them and their character/game/the rest of their community a horrible look. Wouldn't be surprised if the trolls intended to make people hate on Steve fans, since apparently there are fake Geno fans on GameFAQs doing the same thing if what someone said here is correct.

The Grotesque Steve twitter account also had MS Paint artwork of the real Steve crying mad, alongside other characters doing the same thing in their header. Different G. Steve trolls would bother Steve fans on twitter, too, or put 'em down while annoying everyone with G. Steve. They did this after Banjo got in, too.

 

[Andwooooo]

So in light of the entire planet being royally ****ed with Kung Flu we can safely say

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Can you *not*?

 

[Icewolff92]

So did anyone read the translation? And if so, what do you all think? Is the entire pass postponed or not? The translation sure made it feel like it.

 

[SSGuy]

So did anyone read the translation? And if so, what do you all think? Is the entire pass postponed or not? The translation sure made it feel like it.

Nothing has been confirmed. But it seems likely development on the entire pass is going to be delayed. 6 might be almost finished and should release but we might not see anything after that before October.

Maybe Sakurai is smart for having a December 2021 date for FP2.

 

[Deleted member]

On Sakurai’s comment about the DLC may go postponed, he said that there is a publisher he had to present info. Maybe a presentation then negotiations after deciding the character. I think he could be referring to a very late character in the pass like 10 or 11 maybe. If it’s an early character like 6 or 7, I think they should already negotiated with that company and be quite far into development. 6 should be ready being shown off by now and be released this month if not next. 7 and 8 should be revealed at E3. If they delay production, then I hope they still announce the characters despite no gameplay like SmashDojo.

 

[ForsakenM]

On Sakurai’s comment about the DLC may go postponed, he said that there is a publisher he had to present info. Maybe a presentation then negotiations after deciding the character. I think he could be referring to a very late character in the pass like 10 or 11 maybe. If it’s an early character like 6 or 7, I think they should already negotiated with that company and be quite far into development. 6 should be ready being shown off by now and be released this month if not next. 7 and 8 should be revealed at E3. If they delay production, then I hope they still announce the characters despite no gameplay like SmashDojo.

Alright, someone else who thinks things through thoroughly before coming to a conclusion! You are much welcome here, my friend.

So to refresh the memory of some of you, Joker began production very late in 2018 and was likely finished once we saw his idle animation in February. In the time between then and his release in April, Sakurai and his team hammered it out and got both Hero (who has three unique alternates, making things require more effort) and Banjo & Kazooie both within 90% to have gameplay reveal in their initial reveal trailers in June as well as begin work on Terry. Late the next month (July), Hero was given a breakdown and released, and B&K has their breakdown recorded mere days later from when Hero's was recorded, which would have been at the latest some time in late June since editing and translation takes time. During B&K's breakdown, which was with their release in early September, Terry was given a sneak preview with both him and his stage looking rather complete already...and that was recorded days after Hero's breakdown, so the footage was already outdated from where Terry would have been in Sept. Terry got his breakdown in November and Byleth was in January but the breakdown was recorded in November...meaning Byleth was finished in 2018.

This team finished 5 characters, a stage for each, music that needed collected and remixes that had to be made, Classic Runs, Spirit Boards, misc stuff that comes with each character that I haven't listed as well as Mii Costumes both old and new and balance changes and new features all in a single year's worth of time...AND THEY HAD TIME TO SPARE!

Look at me in the eye right now and tell me that that, as the man who said they were too ahead of schedule not to have anything else when others were doubting and when no single insider had said jack about it yet, that they don't have AT MINIMUM Fighter #6 done and ready to launch. Before you even lift a finger, I will tell YOU that I believe they even have Fighter #7 completed and Fighter #8 in a finished-enough state that will not be hindered by the virus so long as they are allowed to keep working as, much like @Beandini said, characters early in Vol 2 should have had all the boring business stuff out of the way. I'd like to add to this that Sakurai said all six were finalized in that January breakdown that was RECORDED IN NOVEMBER!

This means all of the characters have already been chosen and should have been negotiated for already, and when Sakurai is referring to presentation for publishers, it's likely showing them the core of the character to have them approve and make demands and suggestions as well as communicating with Nintendo for approvals. All of this would only matter for characters who are early in development, meaning it likely will not affect about half the pass.

The only way I see this affecting early characters is if they decide to delay everything to have more regular release schedules, but that honestly makes no sense and it's much more likely they will stick to the plan for the characters they can and then inform us in a breakdown when the delays will start to apply.

What you REALLY need to be worried about is if anyone that works with Sakurai in his building gets the corona virus and doesn't know it until it's too late. If that happens, all production screeches to a halt with no guarantee it will continue at all, let alone after a big delay. This would also affect characters who are basically done and no longer need approvals but are still being touched up.

The team's health is way more important than our content of course, just making sure you guys understand the real risks and issues here.

 

[Polarthief]

I mean, worst case scenario, some fighters release later and they may not be able to show much gameplay for a character on release (like Terry's reveal showing very little, but even worse probably). Obs some people won't be thrilled at that, but I personally care more about reveals than releases. Like once Geno's revealed, that's it, he's in, confirmed, no more needing to stress about it. BK's reveal I flipped the hell out at, but when they finally got released, yeah I jumped on to play, but the excitement wasn't nearly as high as the reveal. Not that I was disappointed or anything, but the novelty of them being in wears off when you've known for months that they're gonna be in. It's still awesome when I think about how we finally have BK in Smash, but yeah, it won't ever be as hype as the reveal, and I definitely expect Geno to be the same.

Anyway, something something, direct next week plzkthx.

 

[Datboigeno]

The odd thing about Sakurai mentioning giving a presentation about a new fighter to miyamoto is that it kind of goes against his statement in the Byleth direct where he stated everything was pretty much decided on in terms of the next Fighters Pass. That leads me to believe the very last one or two characters of the pass May still be in flux. Why else would he be giving a presentation to miyamoto if not for some sort of approval process? I don’t think it’s 6 or 7 or even 8 or 9. The first three have at the very least been worked on for awhile. I think it would be great if at this time since we might have a big gap in development to just announce all the characters (coughGenocough) I feel like Nintendo is the type of company to try and keep it all a secret up until each and every reveal. They’ve never had any qualms about leaving people with a lack of information for long periods of time before. That said, this is a very extreme and atypical situation.

 

[HansShotFirst20]

The odd thing about Sakurai mentioning giving a presentation about a new fighter to miyamoto is that it kind of goes against his statement in the Byleth direct where he stated everything was pretty much decided on in terms of the next Fighters Pass. That leads me to believe the very last one or two characters of the pass May still be in flux. Why else would he be giving a presentation to miyamoto if not for some sort of approval process? I don’t think it’s 6 or 7 or even 8 or 9. The first three have at the very least been worked on for awhile. I think it would be great if at this time since we might have a big gap in development to just announce all the characters (coughGenocough) I feel like Nintendo is the type of company to try and keep it all a secret up until each and every reveal. They’ve never had any qualms about leaving people with a lack of information for long periods of time before. That said, this is a very extreme and atypical situation.

When did it come out that the meeting was with Miyamoto?

 

[Spatulo]

The odd thing about Sakurai mentioning giving a presentation about a new fighter to miyamoto is that it kind of goes against his statement in the Byleth direct where he stated everything was pretty much decided on in terms of the next Fighters Pass. That leads me to believe the very last one or two characters of the pass May still be in flux. Why else would he be giving a presentation to miyamoto if not for some sort of approval process? I don’t think it’s 6 or 7 or even 8 or 9. The first three have at the very least been worked on for awhile. I think it would be great if at this time since we might have a big gap in development to just announce all the characters (coughGenocough) I feel like Nintendo is the type of company to try and keep it all a secret up until each and every reveal. They’ve never had any qualms about leaving people with a lack of information for long periods of time before. That said, this is a very extreme and atypical situation.

It might not have been a presentation for negotiation purposes but rather more like a progress report, just to show how the character is coming along and to verify that what they’re doing with them is an accurate portrayal.

 

[HudU]

Ive been thinking about Geno's inclusion a lot, more specifically what character slot he would take up, and despite people saying he would be perfect as #77, he does have a decent chance of being #76. The timing of the Cacomallow leak (right after the presentation was made, because both were in November) makes me think he's really far in development or at the very least, not that far after #76 if he isn't #76. Also (I could be wrong about this) but before Sabi and Verge started their deconfirmations, some leakers said they heard him as #5 or soon after (though back then speculation was all over the place.) Notably, Brew who was talking about Ryu said Geno was coming later, and Mandy (though it is unclear if they are credible at all) talked about Geno being added also, originally thinking he was #5. Also there have been rumors about how #6 is really close to Nintendo as well, and seeing as Square and Nintendo both own the character, and Square was generally good at keeping information secret outside of Hero, I think it isn't too farfetched that Geno could be #6.

I agree that he is probably #7, but all I'm saying is that we probably shouldn't rule him out as a possibility (Not that anyone did or anything), and he does have a chance at being #6 (though i'm not keeping my hopes up)

Just some interesting thoughts I've been having in "quarantine". Ive been sick over the last 5 or so days, so I can at the very least say, take precautions seriously. I got tested for CV through an 'E-visit', and results are coming back in a day or so (more than likely I just have a cold, or something along the lines of Strep, seeing as I had a fever but its gone now, so that's good to know but regardless I'm still sick). But stay safe everyone, It's important!

 

[RetrogamerMax]

The presentation approval bit of Sakurai's Famitsu column has made me more interested on who the next character is. From the way Sakurai spoke of it, it sounded like he was trying to meet up with a 3rd party developer outside of Japan. I know he could be talking about a developer from Japan, but to me the context of it sounds kind of like negotiations for a western character.

 

[Deleted member]

Ive been thinking about Geno's inclusion a lot, more specifically what character slot he would take up, and despite people saying he would be perfect as #77, he does have a decent chance of being #76. The timing of the Cacomallow leak (right after the presentation was made, because both were in November) makes me think he's really far in development or at the very least, not that far after #76 if he isn't #76. Also (I could be wrong about this) but before Sabi and Verge started their deconfirmations, some leakers said they heard him as #5 or soon after (though back then speculation was all over the place.) Notably, Brew who was talking about Ryu said Geno was coming later, and Mandy (though it is unclear if they are credible at all) talked about Geno being added also, originally thinking he was #5. Also there have been rumors about how #6 is really close to Nintendo as well, and seeing as Square and Nintendo both own the character, and Square was generally good at keeping information secret outside of Hero, I think it isn't too farfetched that Geno could be #6.

I agree that he is probably #7, but all I'm saying is that we probably shouldn't rule him out as a possibility (Not that anyone did or anything), and he does have a chance at being #6 (though i'm not keeping my hopes up)

Just some interesting thoughts I've been having in "quarantine". Ive been sick over the last 5 or so days, so I can at the very least say, take precautions seriously. I got tested for CV through an 'E-visit', and results are coming back in a day or so. Stay safe everyone, It's important.

It seems Mandy did the twitter trick as shown in one of PapaGenos videos. Don’t know if Brew is even credible. Anyway, hope you feel better.

 

[HudU]

It seems Mandy did the twitter trick as shown in one of PapaGenos videos. Don’t know if Brew is even credible. Anyway, hope you feel better.

Yea, the leaker part was moreso just to point out that people have heard things about him, but Im mainly focused on the timing of Cacomallow, and character #6 being closely related to Nintendo (allegedly).

Also thank you

 

[Icewolff92]

The presentation approval bit of Sakurai's Famitsu column has made me more interested on who the next character is. From the way Sakurai spoke of it, it sounded like he was trying to meet up with a 3rd party developer outside of Japan. I know he could be talking about a developer from Japan, but to me the context of it sounds kind of like negotiations for a western character.

I disagree. Just because he wanted to present a character does not mean it has to be a western one. They have a large problem of the coronavirus right now, and we don¨t know how... let say Square (concidering this is the Geno thread) handle it. We also need to take Sakuras health into account that could make Sakurai more careful in traveling to companies, both inside and outside of the boarders.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I disagree. Just because he wanted to present a character does not mean it has to be a wester one. They have a large problem of the coronavirus right now, and we don¨t know how... let say Square (concidering this is the Geno thread) handle it. We also need to take Sakuras health into account that could make Sakurai more careful in traveling to companies, both inside and outside of the boarders.

You do have a point. Square is a pain in the *** to deal with and everyone should put their health first before anything else.

 

[Loliko YnT]

So on the topic of Waluigi, I'm kinda 50-50. I definitely think he can make it into Ultimate, especially with all the buzz that came up when he was shown as an assist trophy. I definitely think Nintendo has noticed the demand

That being said, I don't think he would be in Fighters Pass 2. Fighters Pass 2 characters come with stage and music as well as a Spirit board and I can't really see how they would fill the other content that would come with Waluigi if he was in the pass. Geno is different of course since the game he stars in has original content not yet in Smash they can pull from. Waluigi though? I'm scratching my head a bit. I think there are a few stages, you could go for, but I struggle with the music. And what about the spirits? I don't know, I feel like you'd really have to stretch to fill in those extra things

I feel like if he is coming, he'd be a good candidate to be a final bonus fighter outside the pass. Assuming there is one that is. You wouldn't have to worry about filling in the extra stuff and can just release Waluigi. Plus, I believe Waluigi wouldn't take as much work to develop compared to other characters. He already has a model and some animations in Ultimate that they can work with. It'd still take work of course, but not as much as a character from scratch would, which is another reason I think him being a final bonus character suits him better. Once again though, that's assuming there is a surprise bonus towards the end

For a stage , Waluigi Pinball is the most requested one. But Waluigi's Island from Mario Party 3 can work , too.

For a music selection , i admit that the music that would fit him would be Mario multiplayers spin-off.
The biggest omission , music wise , is Mario party (We only have Pandemonium (Mario Party 9) ). So , every music between Mario Party 1 and Super Mario Party is fair game. (exemples : This Way That Mario (MP2) , Try Hard , Folks (MP4) , Everybody Party (MP5) , Don't Look Down (MP7) , It's on now ! (MP8) )
We also only have 15 music tracks for Mario Kart , 4 of them being rainbow road. We could obviously have a second Waluigi Pinball remix , but I could easily see them bring more stuff , like the Battle Theme from Mario Kart Double Dash.

The spirit list is indeed the biggest problem.
To stay in the theme of multiplayer Mario spin-offs :
Koopa Kid (Mario Party) , Tumble (Mario Party 3) , Millenium Star (Mario Party 3) , Toad and friends (hosts) (Mario Party 4) , Star Spirits (Mario Party 5) , Brighton and Twila (Mario Party 6) , Shroomlock/Mushbert/Mr.E/ Mrs.Shroomlock (Mario Party Advance) , Kamek (host) (Super Mario Party).
You could even have an evolutionnary spirit for Koopa Kid , with Red, Green , and Blue Koopa Kid. A spirit could also be all the renders of the OG Mario Party cast as a legendary spirit. (Mario , Luigi , Wario , Peach , DK , Yoshi) You could also bring more obscure Mario characters , like the Ukiki monkey from SM64 (Or Mr.I , the penguin , wich also appeared in mini-games) ect , ect...

Yes , you have to dig a bit deeper than usual , since we already have a lot of Mario spirits. However , when I stuck to only new Mario Party spirit , I could bring 8 of them (and put groups of character as a single spirit) , while having leftovers ideas. The Marioverse is extremely rich , and you can easily find more spirits to fill a list like that.

So , tl;dr
Waluigi can work as a Fighter in the Fighter Pass content wise. He would mostly represent Mario Party , since the franchise has very low representation in Smash despise being a 10+ games franchise. He can however bring some stuff from others multiplayers spin-offs.

In the end of the day , it's up to Nintendo and Sakurai to decide if they want to add Waluigi for the fans , and as a bonus , to represent Mario Party more in depth. (Wich could potentially tie in a Mario Party 11).

 

[Icewolff92]

You do have a point. Square is a pain in the *** to deal with and everyone should put their health first before anything else.

To qoute Kody¨s translation
https://twitter.com/nokoloc/status/1240408694128619520
"Unfortunately, the virus has been restricting Sakurai’s business trips. For example, trips to Nintendo in Kyoto. Trips to other companies have been problematic too. Planning new fighters, presenting to publishers, and having meetings have all been indefinitely postponed. "


Also https://twitter.com/nokoloc/status/1240411067727175684

“To keep people and our building clean, we really have to take a break now. Please understand, this is the only way to get through this severe kind of time.”

https://twitter.com/nokoloc/status/1240410994620485637
"Not only development, but Smash’s foreign affairs like distribution, sales, and manufacturing are included in that. It’s going to cost all of the team's resources."


It is qoute¨s like these that make people (like myself) to believe that the entire pass is postponed until further noticed. They might have done some work on fighter six and potentially even seven, but there is the possibility that they had to abruptly put it postponed. I mean, movestudio¨s postponed production of all of their recent shows and movies because of this mess, so why would it be impossible that Sakurai and his team been forced to put their hands up and walk away. I mean, even if Sakurai still wants to work, its also in Nintendos best interest to have him healthy

 

[RetrogamerMax]

To qoute Kody¨s translation
https://twitter.com/nokoloc/status/1240408694128619520
"Unfortunately, the virus has been restricting Sakurai’s business trips. For example, trips to Nintendo in Kyoto. Trips to other companies have been problematic too. Planning new fighters, presenting to publishers, and having meetings have all been indefinitely postponed. "


Also https://twitter.com/nokoloc/status/1240411067727175684

“To keep people and our building clean, we really have to take a break now. Please understand, this is the only way to get through this severe kind of time.”

https://twitter.com/nokoloc/status/1240410994620485637
"Not only development, but Smash’s foreign affairs like distribution, sales, and manufacturing are included in that. It’s going to cost all of the team's resources."


It is qoute¨s like these that make people (like myself) to believe that the entire pass is postponed until further noticed. They might have done some work on fighter six and potentially even seven, but there is the possibility that they had to abruptly put it postponed. I mean, movestudio¨s postponed production of all of their recent shows and movies because of this mess, so why would it be impossible that Sakurai and his team been forced to put their hands up and walk away. I mean, even if Sakurai still wants to work, its also in Nintendos best interest to have him healthy

You know now that I think about it, there would be no better time to take a break from speculation than right now. But I'll wait until E3/June to see if anything happens by than and if it doesn't, I'm taking a good awhile from speculation because of this stupid Coronavirus.

 

[Deleted member]

It's good that Sakurai and the whole team are taking a well deserved (albeit not well timed) break. I think once this virus is at least somewhat gone and manageable, I think production will start back up in a couple of months or so. With that, I do think that fighter 6 is complete but they're just delaying the release of it for now to coincide with the release of a presentation.

 

[Icewolff92]

It's good that Sakurai and the whole team are taking a well deserved (albeit not well timed) break. I think once this virus is at least somewhat gone and manageable, I think production will start back up in a couple of months or so. With that, I do think that fighter 6 is complete but they're just delaying the release of it for now to coincide with the release of a presentation.

Unfortunately, this will most likely take a while. As in, don¨t be surprised if it keeps on going to July or maybe even August. It all depends on how each country will handle it, how fast we get a vaccine or (worst scenario of all) it starts to mutate.

 

[Deleted member]

Unfortunately, this will most likely take a while. As in, don¨t be surprised if it keeps on going to July or maybe even August. It all depends on how each country will handle it, how fast we get a vaccine or (worst scenario of all) it starts to mutate.

Right, hence why I said a couple of months.

 

[CannonStreak]

Meh, this postponement does not bother me, as long as we get Fighter 6. We have gone through worse waits before, am I right?

 

[Icewolff92]

Right, hence why I said a couple of months.

I did not know if you meant like, it would be at worse May or something.

 

[Firox]

So in light of the entire planet being royally ****ed with Kung Flu we can safely say

THERE IS NO SMASH DLC
THERE IS NO E3
THERE IS NO OLYMPICS
THERE ARE NO EVENTS
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THERE. IS. NO. 2020.
geno is probably still happening tho​

"There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy and there is no Queen of England. This is the real world, and you need to wake up!"

 

[Deleted member]

I did not know if you meant like, it would be at worse May or something.

Yeah. I'd say like July or August is when it'll start to wind down, hopefully.

 

[Firox]

So is it basically confirmed that we won't be seeing another reveal any time in the near future? If so, I think I'm going to have to peace out for a while myself. This drought was painful enough already. I really don't think I can stomach another 3-6 months of nothing.....

 

[Deleted member]

So is it basically confirmed that we won't be seeing another reveal any time in the near future? If so, I think I'm going to have to peace out for a while myself. This drought was painful enough already. I really don't think I can stomach another 3-6 months of nothing.....

I don't think it's the reveals necessarily but the characters themselves along with their release. The CG trailers take a very long time to make so I'd say something like Joker or Terry's is likely, just no gameplay of the character of course. If the next direct does happen next week, I'd say a reveal is likely just without the gameplay.