Griselda
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Hmm.. I'm still voting for unrelated, but if there's any relation, I'd go with cousins or something. Siblings get a ton of attention, but you don't really see many cousins in media.
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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior
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Yeah, unfortunately. That could be a good application here if they were to be related.
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I personally think it would be more interesting if the two puppets WEREN'T actually related in a familiar way. More like two rival servants of the same master (Think along the lines of the angels Michael and Lucifer). Geno's star spirit was always the most righteous, obedient and selfless, willing to sacrifice his own time and energy for the mortals of the world below. Xeno, on the other hand, was jealous of Geno's apparent favoritism and slowly began to detest serving the ungrateful people of Mushroom kingdom. When Exor first shattered Star Road, Xeno's spirit fell into Smithy's dark dimension and found himself in the possession of a wicked doll created by Cloaker and Domino (the two bosses that came before the giant Snake, Earth Link). They convinced him that the world Smithy wanted to create would be devoid of wishes and finally free him from his perceived slavery. Eventually, after finding his new cohorts dead (recently killed by Mario and the gang), he decides to escape to Mario's dimension (just before Smithy's defeat sealed it off) to bring his own brand of chaos....
Or something like that. I'll let Griselda mold the fan fictional canon if she wants. Tell me what you think.
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ActualGarbage
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I just woke up, I'm going back to bed.
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That's a pretty decent backstory, and ties him into SMRPG a bit more than my idea about where his body came from - which was that it was just some sort of alien weapon or something, hence the 'Xeno' alt-name.
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I came back to the thread at the right time
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Lets say those nintendo interns™ made the mother of all oopsies and we suddenly found out this is our dlc lineup. How would you feel about it?
EDIT: come on people I'm not saying the next passes should be $55 just didn't bother to mod the templetes I borrowed when the characters choices are obviously the entire point. I though leaving the 2 in for season 3 would have tipped y'all off to that.
EDIT: come on people I'm not saying the next passes should be $55 just didn't bother to mod the templetes I borrowed when the characters choices are obviously the entire point. I though leaving the 2 in for season 3 would have tipped y'all off to that.
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Franco Geno
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Oh yes you did sir
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I see Doomslayer, Geno, Rex, Lloyd, Isaac, Travis and Sora. Take my money.
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I'd be delighted, plain and simple.
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Two out of three of my most wanted... but literally everyone else I Just Do Not Care. I guess I'd be okay with it.
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If i have to wait till January I will lowkey feel ****ing dead inside lmao
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I'd prefer more Shadow and Alis Landale, personally.
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Shadow Star DX
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Awww, I'm so glad you like it!! I'm honored to be the first person to draw fanart of your design! :D Your concept is actually a lot better than you think; the whole jester theme is what really won it for me. It reminded me a lot of Dimentio, which is fitting, since he owes his existence to SMRPG.
I went with the more human proportions, because I was trying to get a more lanky look for him, in contrast to Geno. In my head-canon, his design is the result of Gaz creating his own original villain for his Geno doll to fight, and it just so happens to be the doll the rouge star spirit possesses; thus the contrast between the two. But I really like your concept too, having him more similar to Geno. It works either way, really. I could even see him starting out looking like your design, but the more he drives his evil agenda, the more the star spirit mends with the doll and warps it into looking more like how I drew him.
I actually didn't notice the black sclera though. I mistook it as shadows over the eye, but I'd be happy to experiment with it as I color him in. Feel free to give me any feedback about any details I may have missed or you'd like for me to change or add. It's your design, after all, and I want to do it justice, haha.
Thanks so much!! I'm humbled to have my art compared to official Nintendo art! I'll definitely try to bring some more Geno art into this thread, now that I can finally draw some.
I also cast my vote for Xeno being the name of Griselda's character. Going off of my head-canon of this character being another doll Gaz created, that seems like a completely fitting name for Gaz to give him.
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You know what helps...? Sea shanties.
Pro Tip: everyone should know one sea shanty/drinking song by memory and this is easily the easiest one to remember and teach a group of people in like 5 minutes.
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BWHAHA, That's amazing!! XD I might just end up drawing a series of Geno icons for you guys to play around with. Can we make it a rule that if anyone comes in here and tries to bash Geno and start an argument, we just reply with that icon and nothing else? I'd be so proud to have my art used as an Anti-Trolling tool.
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Can't tell if holy or cursed...
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..I'd suggest Xeno be the doll's name that he goes by most of the time and Geppetto be the star's, but then, we already know what kind of names star spirits have. Unless Geno's parents just had interesting ideas about baby names.
Or, y'know, it could just be this. I dunno, I agree that Xeno is edgier and has the 'foreigner' thing going for it, but I just like Geppetto for some reason.Imagine if Geppetto/Xeno's star spirit name was "♫!? "?
Spatulo
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Fatman your sea shanty posting has awakened a love of sea shanties that I didn’t fully know I had (I always liked pirate music though).
Now that I say that I’m still sad Fire Emblem Mutiny was fake (although I wouldn’t trade Three Houses for anything), maybe the NEXT Fire Emblem game can be pirate themed. Then we can get a pirate character in Smash and, on the topic of Geno, that’d be a perfect character for a Jonathan Jones Spirit Battle (or they could just use K Rool)
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Done! I'm happy with how it turned out.
Unfortunately, I ripped a bit of the paper off while trying to adjust his nose, so it looks like this now.
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Conflicted. 4 of my most wanted characters are here for Ultimate, but Rex is the absolute worst Xeno character in my mind, so I'd be extremely disappointed they went with him over KOS-MOS. Speaking of, it would be nice if we got at least one notable women in gaming in DLC. Reimu, 2B, Lara Croft, Shantae, just any of those types that are great characters in their own right. Drop Waluigi for them preferably lol.
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Was waiting for a reply like this. Of course it would be you, Eric.
The only notable one there in that list of your is Lara Croft. The rest aren't even close in terms of being iconic or notable and are up where they are due to fan support, and I feel like Reimu and 2B have only had this recent mini-surge of support.
Frankly, that list posted was very based and would be the best way to finish off Ultimate. I don't think a single character change would be an improvement and I will point out that my own bias would rather have Spyro over Crash but I acknowledge that what I want wouldn't be as good as that list.
We don't need a female character to make it good and thinking a female rep would make that list better is silly. It would have been one thing if you had said "I'd rather have 2B over Waluigi" because then it would be you showing fan support for a character you like, but saying "Would be nice to have any female character over Waluigi" shows that you just want any female rep just to have a female and not true character support but rather to meet a weird quota. Also, Waluigi is a fantastic pick and if you hate on him because he's memey remember that many other people look at Geno like he's a joke as well.
My own buddy sees Geno as a meme pick, which I can't understand because Geno's situation is nothing like Waluigi's, but that is just proof people see Geno as a memey pick.
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I'm voting for Shantae, just because I think she'd have the flashiest moveset, besides Reimu.
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I have to apologize, Griselda, but I ended up liking your drawing so much, that I ended up drawing fanart of the character, while attempting to make him slightly edgier (which actually looks more like some Waluigi and Puppetmon got mixed into his design). I hope you don't mind. It's just a rough sketch, but I'd like to ink and color it if you like how it came out:
Also, this is the first time I've been able to use my tablet in months, so I'm still a little rusty, I apologize. But thank you, Griselda, for inspiring me to do some art! :D There's just something about living dolls/puppets that I think make such cool characters and your design struck a cord with me, haha.
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I'd personally love to throw out rex for shantae specifically but I know a lot of people like him too and I wanted it to be somewhat realistic, betting against sakurai and his love of XC2 for an indie feels like a fools errand to me.
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My edgy son is making a place for himself in the world. I am pleased.
I wanted to throw my hat into the ring
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>$55 for each subsequent fighter pass
BIG. YIKES. The picks themselves aren't bad, but I can't even imagine wanting to pay that much for a few characters in a video game. (If you think you would, consider that that's almost as much as an ENTIRE FULL-PRICE GAME.)
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Does the Alestorm cover of You Are A Pirate count as a sea shanty? If not it should be
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I just grabbed a random template off the net and didn't feel the need to change any extraneous details like that since it wasn't the point, I think it was meant as a bundle for both pass 1 and 2 together.
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Yeah people give Shantae fans a lot of **** sadly, even though all they need to do is play Pirate's Curse and Half Genie Hero to see how well her non-magic and magic moveset would translate to Smash. Also Geno has a cool hat.
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What about this? Is this pirate enough?
By the way, what number as a DLC character would you guys think Geno would be in this DLC thing going on for Smash Bros. Ultimate?
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I want him for #5, but it looks like everyone's leaning towards 6 or 7.
I hope it is six. I just want him to come soon.
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Greetings fellow Genobros!
The weekend is finally here (at last!). Earlier today, as I was on my way to work, I thought for a moment once again on the CacoMallow leak and Geno. Here's my take on what could potentially end up happening in regards to Geno, and Doom Slayer.
1. In this year's E3 Nintendo Direct, we witnessed the unprecedented collaboration between two direct competitors coming into agreement, and making it possible for a beloved, iconic video game character duo join the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate roster; Banjo & Kazooie. This lovable duo which was developed by Rare, was somewhat of a close relative to the rest of the Nintendo IPs back in the era of the N64. Of course, we then had the purchase of Rare by Microsoft and the bear and bird were taken away by their new foster parent. Fortunately in present day, we've been blessed with Nintendo and Microsoft's good relationship that we were able to witness the aforementioned feat.
Now, in regards to Geno, I'd say he's a character that has gone through a similar experience. Back in the SNES era, Squaresoft (now Square Enix) made quite a number of games for Nintendo, and among them was Super Mario RPG. Within this gem of a game, we met Geno, and from there and onward many have come to cherish this unique character (myself included). Unfortunately, after Nintendo and Squaresoft's fallout during the transition of console generations, Squaresoft sided with Sony to expand upon their IPs on the Playstation. Geno was never to be seen again... that is... until we got re-releases of SMRPG on Virtual consoles. With Square Enix now seemingly being in better terms with Nintendo (most notably after Cloud's inclusion in Smash 4), I sense that Square Enix may follow suit (similar to Microsoft and Rare), and allow for Geno to join Ultimate's roster. I see this similarity as a good point in favor to his chances.
2. I've come to accept that, both Geno and Doom Slayer, may be revealed and released around the first quarter of 2020 (say around March). My reasoning for this is because on March 20th, 2020, DOOM Eternal, and DOOM 64 will launch on the Nintendo Switch. What better way to promote the DOOM franchise, along with its latest installment, than revealing/releasing the Doom Slayer for SSBU near that date? Likewise, March being the month of SMRPG's anniversary (going by the release date in Japan), I also believe that the imminent announcement and release of SMRPG for the SNES library on the Switch beckons the reveal of Geno as a playable fighter in Smash. I've seen some mention Geno being more suitable for an E3 release and, I do agree that it would be a fitting time as well, however the date of SMRPG's anniversary is also a possibility. As for Doom Slayer, I'm banking on him being revealed... as a matter of fact, either at the same time as Fighter #5 is revealed sometime in January, or after Fighter #5 is released. To me, the CacoMallow leak is legit.
These are my humble and honest opinions on the matter.
The weekend is finally here (at last!). Earlier today, as I was on my way to work, I thought for a moment once again on the CacoMallow leak and Geno. Here's my take on what could potentially end up happening in regards to Geno, and Doom Slayer.
1. In this year's E3 Nintendo Direct, we witnessed the unprecedented collaboration between two direct competitors coming into agreement, and making it possible for a beloved, iconic video game character duo join the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate roster; Banjo & Kazooie. This lovable duo which was developed by Rare, was somewhat of a close relative to the rest of the Nintendo IPs back in the era of the N64. Of course, we then had the purchase of Rare by Microsoft and the bear and bird were taken away by their new foster parent. Fortunately in present day, we've been blessed with Nintendo and Microsoft's good relationship that we were able to witness the aforementioned feat.
Now, in regards to Geno, I'd say he's a character that has gone through a similar experience. Back in the SNES era, Squaresoft (now Square Enix) made quite a number of games for Nintendo, and among them was Super Mario RPG. Within this gem of a game, we met Geno, and from there and onward many have come to cherish this unique character (myself included). Unfortunately, after Nintendo and Squaresoft's fallout during the transition of console generations, Squaresoft sided with Sony to expand upon their IPs on the Playstation. Geno was never to be seen again... that is... until we got re-releases of SMRPG on Virtual consoles. With Square Enix now seemingly being in better terms with Nintendo (most notably after Cloud's inclusion in Smash 4), I sense that Square Enix may follow suit (similar to Microsoft and Rare), and allow for Geno to join Ultimate's roster. I see this similarity as a good point in favor to his chances.
2. I've come to accept that, both Geno and Doom Slayer, may be revealed and released around the first quarter of 2020 (say around March). My reasoning for this is because on March 20th, 2020, DOOM Eternal, and DOOM 64 will launch on the Nintendo Switch. What better way to promote the DOOM franchise, along with its latest installment, than revealing/releasing the Doom Slayer for SSBU near that date? Likewise, March being the month of SMRPG's anniversary (going by the release date in Japan), I also believe that the imminent announcement and release of SMRPG for the SNES library on the Switch beckons the reveal of Geno as a playable fighter in Smash. I've seen some mention Geno being more suitable for an E3 release and, I do agree that it would be a fitting time as well, however the date of SMRPG's anniversary is also a possibility. As for Doom Slayer, I'm banking on him being revealed... as a matter of fact, either at the same time as Fighter #5 is revealed sometime in January, or after Fighter #5 is released. To me, the CacoMallow leak is legit.
These are my humble and honest opinions on the matter.
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I do think this theory is a bit wounded by the fact that Doom Eternal was originally going to be released on November of this year and Nintendo's usually not caring about anniversaries like this, but it is interesting to consider.
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