Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I will say that the Geno fanbase is used to getting burned. I was pretty much the face of the Geno fanbase during the Brawl speculation days. My thread in Nsider, Operation: Star of Heaven, got a lot of attention and ultimately turned into a 128 page portfolio that double digits amounts of people worked on that I took to Nintendo of Japan in the summer of 2006, a few weeks after E3. I left it with a receptionist and I have no idea if anyone important ever got it. I used to post sprawling theories about Geno coming to Brawl so it was personally devestating when he wasn't in the game at all. I blamed myself for getting people's hopes up which is why I backed off significantly in the Smash 4 days. The thing is though, that Nintendo World article in 2016 changed everything. After 8 years, it was basically confirmed that every seemingly insane theory that I had about Geno in the Brawl wound up being right. It was a monstrous relief but the hurt from those days still honestly lingers.

Not gonna lie, but I tend to let myself get invested by compelling arguments of fanbases on here, especially concerning "unwanted" wants like Steve that would assumedly be coming, and usually nothing ultimately happens. Fool me once, I'm naive, fool me twice, I really ought to have seen it coming. Foolish like that, aren't I?

Back in the Brawl days, I was around when inclusions like ROB got revealed in lieu of big fan wants and wound up causing mass disappointment, and sure enough I was one of the few defenders of him in that period.

Regardless of anything, despite getting nothing again and again, time after time, this particular fanbase still stays strong. Besides being for a character that's from a healthy brand, it's a testament to how years of build-up has lead to a strong fan movement that, for a brief moment, has been acknowledged by a costume. And the fire still burns to this day. Many lesser-supported characters could only be lucky to even have this kind of long-lasting following.

One day, maybe Square can finally listen as well, once their ears are cleaned.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What was YTMND?

It stands for "You're the Man Now, Dog!" Before YouTube and before 4chan technically became mainstream, it was a Flash site that was kind of the precursor to modern memes. Needless to say, it quickly became outdated once YouTube and other sites picked up in popularity. That, Homestar Runner, Nsider, and Albinoblacksheep were pretty much my online homes back in high school.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I doubt it will take that long for both to get released. Especially concidering they had a head start with both concidering they had the stuff to show with both. At worse, we are getting an early/mid-August for Hero and maybe late September for Banjo.

Yeah, besides it's at least assured to be within the season(s). Character creation for this series is hard, they have to make sure that everything is ready and working right. Having a specific release date announced would only make them rush it worse if they're forced to scramble before such a deadline is met.

Feb 2020 is at least broad enough so that there can be time to finish the pass characters by the middle of that month, at the latest.

 

[Icewolff92]

A friend that is also a Geno supporter posted this on is facebook recently that I thought I could share. The last one just makes me want to have an RPG that is basically Geno recruiting Nintendo characters to join forces for "insert big threat here". There is so much potential you could do with Geno then just have him in a Mario game due to his origin. You can make him sort of like a Dr. Strange if you will.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Fatmanonice Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it a source of Sabi that said Square-Enix wanted Cloud as DLC again in Ultimate and that "Everyone Is Here!" almost didn't happen? I'm curious about that because if that is true and Square-Enix is that greedy, than perhaps Sakurai made a deal with them to get them 2 fighters in the Season Pass. Including Cloud in base might have set off a deal like this with Square-Enix.

 

[Ovaltine]

Fatmanonice Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it a source of Sabi that said Square-Enix wanted Cloud as DLC again in Ultimate and that "Everyone Is Here!" almost didn't happen? I'm curious about that because if that is true and Square-Enix is that greedy, than perhaps Sakurai made a deal with them to get them 2 fighters in the Season Pass. Including Cloud in base might have set off a deal like this with Square-Enix.

That was strictly a rumor that was flying around. Sabi's source said nothing of the sort.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

That was strictly a rumor that was flying around. Sabi's source said nothing of the sort.

Thank you for clearing that up for me Ovaltine I just wasn't certain that is all.

 

[Icewolff92]

That was strictly a rumor that was flying around. Sabi's source said nothing of the sort.

Wasn¨t it Stealth that claimed that a while back?

 

[Ovaltine]

Wasn¨t it Stealth that claimed that a while back?

If he did, then it's no wonder it isn't something treated as solidly as Tansut's claim of Cloud being pricey to include. Stealth, as far as I've heard, is rather hit-or-miss with this kinda thing. He's gotten some wrong, some right, and some that were never determined either way.

 

[valkiriforce]

Also can I just say; Ridley, King K. Rool, Simon AND Richter Belmont (honestly, Richter blew my mind), all returning veterans and Banjo-Kazooie? Was it wrong to have faith when Sakurai has already delivered above and beyond expectation? Remember when people thought this Smash game was just going to be a Smash 4 port?

I don't know how many times it bears repeating that nothing says that Geno is 100% set-in-stone for this game's DLC, but honestly Sakurai has done an incredible job with this game and anything else he adds at this point is just icing on the cake. The only way he could completely outdo himself again imo is if he finally gives Geno the OK for this game's Smash roster, since to me that (along with Banjo-Kazooie and other characters) has been the biggest indicators that they've been listening to the fans in some capacity. And let's not forget his quote when talking about Banjo-Kazooie, and seeing a future where more characters like them could happen (i.e. highly requested characters).

That's just my stance on the whole situation; of course I could totally be wrong about everything and we could get some really weird picks. I don't put it beyond possibility since I know everyone here likes to go over every kind of scenario. I do hope Geno happens sooner rather than later if even so we can start to hear some positivity from some folks in here again.

 

[MissingGlitch]

There was a lot of assuming going around with SE at that time due to the fact Cloud was mysteriously missing until the everyone is here announcement and on the game's release, he hardly appeared in the game at all (3 WoL battles at the very end, No spirits outside of his Fighter spirit, I don't even think he appears in main menu pictures). It led people to speculate that he was a super late addition due to SE not wanting to play ball. The only reason people thought of was because they love DLC and wanted Cloud sold again. Which led to even more speculation that Nintendo had to sweeten the deal offering several DLC slots to SE.

 

[xpnc]

And what better way to convince SE to include Cloud in the base game than 2 DLC fighters with profit sharing?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Also can I just say; Ridley, King K. Rool, Simon AND Richter Belmont (honestly, Richter blew my mind), all returning veterans and Banjo-Kazooie? Was it wrong to have faith when Sakurai has already delivered above and beyond expectation? Remember when people thought this Smash game was just going to be a Smash 4 port?

I don't know how many times it bears repeating that nothing says that Geno is 100% set-in-stone for this game's DLC, but honestly Sakurai has done an incredible job with this game and anything else he adds at this point is just icing on the cake. The only way he could completely outdo himself again imo is if he finally gives Geno the OK for this game's Smash roster, since to me that (along with Banjo-Kazooie and other characters) has been the biggest indicators that they've been listening to the fans in some capacity. And let's not forget his quote when talking about Banjo-Kazooie, and seeing a future where more characters like them could happen (i.e. highly requested characters).

That's just my stance on the whole situation; of course I could totally be wrong about everything and we could get some really weird picks. I don't put it beyond possibility since I know everyone here likes to go over every kind of scenario. I do hope Geno happens sooner rather than later if even so we can start to hear some positivity from some folks in here again.

It's funny, I thought Smash 4 was going to be Ultimate and Ultimate was going to be Smash 4 lol! If you don't get it, I was hyped as hell pre-Smash 4 and I was drained out of hype before the "Everyone Is Here!" announcement for Ultimate because I thought Smash 4 didn't live up to the hype when it came to a lot of it's newcomers.

 

[Icewolff92]

If he did, then it's no wonder it isn't something treated as solidly as Tansut's claim of Cloud being pricey to include. Stealth, as far as I've heard, is rather hit-or-miss with this kinda thing. He's gotten some wrong, some right, and some that were never determined either way.

It is still baffling to me that Nintendo actually managed to get Cloud of all characters with how protective Square is of him. It's even more baffling that they allow him in the base game. A videogame icon from a company that is known to only allow their characters to be DLC.

I know that people are saying that King K and Ridley were "wow, they actually did it".. but they are characters owned by them. Simon, Richter, and Snake? They are own by a comåpany that only cares about money and nothing else (or otherwise how their treat their employees wouldn¨t be as infamous as it is on top of the whole Kojima debacle) Banjo was surprising sure, concidering it was against Steve and Master Chief, but Phill Spencer had been open for years about that he was all for the idea of Banjo in smash. But Square... well se what I wrote earlier. If we are getting Cloud in the base game, Hero and Geno... then the relationship between Square and Nintendo have truly gone a 180 compared to how it was pre-Cloud in Smash Bros

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Also can I just say; Ridley, King K. Rool, Simon AND Richter Belmont (honestly, Richter blew my mind), all returning veterans and Banjo-Kazooie? Was it wrong to have faith when Sakurai has already delivered above and beyond expectation? Remember when people thought this Smash game was just going to be a Smash 4 port?

I don't know how many times it bears repeating that nothing says that Geno is 100% set-in-stone for this game's DLC, but honestly Sakurai has done an incredible job with this game and anything else he adds at this point is just icing on the cake. The only way he could completely outdo himself again imo is if he finally gives Geno the OK for this game's Smash roster, since to me that (along with Banjo-Kazooie and other characters) has been the biggest indicators that they've been listening to the fans in some capacity. And let's not forget his quote when talking about Banjo-Kazooie, and seeing a future where more characters like them could happen (i.e. highly requested characters).

That's just my stance on the whole situation; of course I could totally be wrong about everything and we could get some really weird picks. I don't put it beyond possibility since I know everyone here likes to go over every kind of scenario. I do hope Geno happens sooner rather than later if even so we can start to hear some positivity from some folks in here again.

I on the other hand expect some odd picks, at least concerning the current pass. Historically every character release pattern of some sort ends up with more experimental picks. Even if Geno's not in the pass, he could always show up later down the line if further DLC gets approved.

Besides, big deal characters are usually saved for the start of roster and DLC reveals, to get a lot of fans onboard with the games, with Echoes and oddball picks giving the staff easier stuff to work with, to cap it off at the end to round things out.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

It is still baffling to me that Nintendo actually managed to get Cloud of all characters with how protective Square is of him. It's even more baffling that they allow him in the base game. A videogame icon from a company that is known to only allow their characters to be DLC.

I know that people are saying that King K and Ridley were "wow, they actually did it".. but they are characters owned by them. Simon, Richter, and Snake? They are own by a comåpany that only cares about money and nothing else (or otherwise how their treat their employees wouldn¨t be as infamous as it is on top of the whole Kojima debacle) Banjo was surprising sure, concidering it was against Steve and Master Chief, but Phill Spencer had been open for years about that he was all for the idea of Banjo in smash. But Square... well se what I wrote earlier. If we are getting Cloud in the base game, Hero and Geno... then the relationship between Square and Nintendo have truly gone a 180 compared to how it was pre-Cloud in Smash Bros

It's baffling to me that Sakurai was able to negotiate with Konami to not only get Snake back but the Belmont bois in there too. It wouldn't surprise me if they pulled a Square-Enix on Sakurai to make that happen so they could get a slot in the Season Pass. Goemon, a Contra rep, or a Silent Hill rep is the candidates I could see being thrown in there if we are to get another Konami character that isn't Bomberman.

 

[Firox]

And what better way to convince SE to include Cloud in the base game than 2 DLC fighters with profit sharing?

Ya know, this could actually explain how Cloud, their most iconic poster boy, ended up in the base game. If there's one thing that SE can agree on, it's $. People speculate that if the remaining two DLC are going to be third party, then they'd have to be Namco or Sega or something, but given Cloud and Hero, there could very well be another SE rep as well (wink, wink). The idea is obviously just speculation at this point, but I'd also like to call everyone's attention to the newest EVO announcement:

Sony/Playstation has become the official sponsor of EVO and has declared that they will be making an announcement at its conclusion. Now, this is interesting because lots of people were thinking that Nintendo was going to be making an announcement, possibly for Hero, but if it's Playstation, what could it possibly be? A sequel to Playstation All-Stars? Or something else? Smash Bros is by far going to be the main event of EVO given its massive turnout, so could it possibly be smash related? Very intriguing...

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2019...apparent-announcement-sony-come-during-event/

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

It's baffling to me that Sakurai was able to negotiate with Konami to not only get Snake back but the Belmont bois in there too. It wouldn't surprise me if they pulled a Square-Enix on Sakurai to make that happen so they could get a slot in the Season Pass. Goemon, a Contra rep, or a Silent Hill rep is the candidates I could see being thrown in there if we are to get another Konami character that isn't Bomberman.

Did someone say Silent Hill? Krazy even drew this guy, incidentally.

Spoiler: bit of a stain on that knife, safe warning

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Ya know, this could actually explain how Cloud, their most iconic poster boy, ended up in the base game. If there's one thing that SE can agree on, it's $. People speculate that if the remaining two DLC are going to be third party, then they'd have to be Namco or Sega or something, but given Cloud and Hero, there could very well be another SE rep as well (wink, wink). The idea is obviously just speculation at this point, but I'd also like to call everyone's attention to the newest EVO announcement:

Sony/Playstation has become the official sponsor of EVO and has declared that they will be making an announcement at its conclusion. Now, this is interesting because lots of people were thinking that Nintendo was going to be making an announcement, possibly for Hero, but if it's Playstation, what could it possibly be? A sequel to Playstation All-Stars? Or something else? Smash Bros is by far going to be the main event of EVO given its massive turnout, so could it possibly be smash related? Very intriguing...

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2019...apparent-announcement-sony-come-during-event/

Imagine seeing a Smash announcement there and it's Crash Bandicoot. But seriously, I think it's too early for us to see fighter number 74#. I feel like we will see the next character when Banjo & Kazooie drops.

 

[ForsakenM]

Ya know, this could actually explain how Cloud, their most iconic poster boy, ended up in the base game. If there's one thing that SE can agree on, it's $. People speculate that if the remaining two DLC are going to be third party, then they'd have to be Namco or Sega or something, but given Cloud and Hero, there could very well be another SE rep as well (wink, wink). The idea is obviously just speculation at this point, but I'd also like to call everyone's attention to the newest EVO announcement:

Sony/Playstation has become the official sponsor of EVO and has declared that they will be making an announcement at its conclusion. Now, this is interesting because lots of people were thinking that Nintendo was going to be making an announcement, possibly for Hero, but if it's Playstation, what could it possibly be? A sequel to Playstation All-Stars? Or something else? Smash Bros is by far going to be the main event of EVO given its massive turnout, so could it possibly be smash related? Very intriguing...

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2019...apparent-announcement-sony-come-during-event/

Huh...wtf would Sony have to announce at the end of EVO? Maybe SF6? Would be weird for them to take Nintendo's spotlight, so I think we will likely get a date for a Smash Direct and then a Sony rep will come on stage for their announcement.

 

[Icewolff92]

It's baffling to me that Sakurai was able to negotiate with Konami to not only get Snake back but the Belmont bois in there too. It wouldn't surprise me if they pulled a Square-Enix on Sakurai to make that happen so they could get a slot in the Season Pass. Goemon, a Contra rep, or a Silent Hill rep is the candidates I could see being thrown in there if we are to get another Konami character that isn't Bomberman.

Like I said earlier. I disagree that it was baffling. This is Konami we are talking about. The company that only cares about easy money (Metal Gear Survive everyone?).

or Sega or something

Sega owns the majority of the rights to Bayonetta and they own Atlus which makes the persona games.

Sony/Playstation has become the official sponsor of EVO and has declared that they will be making an announcement at its conclusion. Now, this is interesting because lots of people were thinking that Nintendo was going to be making an announcement, possibly for Hero, but if it's Playstation, what could it possibly be? A sequel to Playstation All-Stars? Or something else? Smash Bros is by far going to be the main event of EVO given its massive turnout, so could it possibly be smash related? Very intriguing...

I seriously doubt there will be a Playstation All-Stars. Especially when it got so lukewarm reception as it did.
Like ForsakenM , it's probably SF6

Imagine seeing a Smash announcement there and it's Crash Bandicoot. But seriously, I think it's to early for us to see fighter number 74#. I'm we will see the next character when Banjo & Kazooie drops.

Activision has owned Crash for quite some times, If Crash was coming it wouldn¨t be through a Sony event.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I can think of only one thing that would make sense.

Spoiler

Ape Escape series revival! Please let me dream...

 

[xpnc]

It's baffling to me that Sakurai was able to negotiate with Konami to not only get Snake back but the Belmont bois in there too. It wouldn't surprise me if they pulled a Square-Enix on Sakurai to make that happen so they could get a slot in the Season Pass. Goemon, a Contra rep, or a Silent Hill rep is the candidates I could see being thrown in there if we are to get another Konami character that isn't Bomberman.

He got two more characters out of Konami, too. Not just one. It's pretty impressive

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Activision has owned Crash for quite some times, If Crash was coming it wouldn¨t be through a Sony event.

I know Crash is owned by Activision, but everyone and them see Crash Bandicoot as a Playstation all star.

He got two more characters out of Konami, too. Not just one. It's pretty impressive

That's what I just said.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

There was a lot of assuming going around with SE at that time due to the fact Cloud was mysteriously missing until the everyone is here announcement and on the game's release, he hardly appeared in the game at all (3 WoL battles at the very end, No spirits outside of his Fighter spirit, I don't even think he appears in main menu pictures). It led people to speculate that he was a super late addition due to SE not wanting to play ball. The only reason people thought of was because they love DLC and wanted Cloud sold again. Which led to even more speculation that Nintendo had to sweeten the deal offering several DLC slots to SE.

Why in the world would you bring up “Cloud being missing until the Everyone is Here trailer”? The game hadn’t been revealed and the only three confirmed fighters were Inkling, Mario, and Link. He wasn’t mysteriously missing at all in the pre-release coverage. Hell, Cloud was one of the main fighters playable in that E3 2018 tournament, so he was in very good shape by then.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Why in the world would you bring up “Cloud being missing until the Everyone is Here trailer”? The game hadn’t been revealed and the only three confirmed fighters were Inkling, Mario, and Link. He wasn’t mysteriously missing at all in the pre-release coverage. Hell, Cloud was one of the main fighters playable in that E3 2018 tournament, so he was in very good shape by then.

I don't know where MissingGlitch heard about Cloud missing until "Everyone Is Here!" but her other points about Final Fantasy or Cloud in general not having really any presence in the game outside of a playable character, stage, and spirit is correct.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Fatmanonice Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it a source of Sabi that said Square-Enix wanted Cloud as DLC again in Ultimate and that "Everyone Is Here!" almost didn't happen? I'm curious about that because if that is true and Square-Enix is that greedy, than perhaps Sakurai made a deal with them to get them 2 fighters in the Season Pass. Including Cloud in base might have set off a deal like this with Square-Enix.

No it was someone else, another insider. The screen name currently escapes me. They were another person that has since basically "retired" from insider info.

Add in: Stealth! That was their name.

 

[xpnc]

I know Crash is owned by Activision, but everyone and them see Crash Bandicoot as a Playstation all star.



That's what I just said.

Just emphasizing a second squaracter isn't unrealistic

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Just emphasizing a second squaracter isn't unrealistic

Are you trying to say a second Square character? Because I didn't say a second Square character getting in the Season Pass is unrealistic.

 

[Ovaltine]

Just emphasizing a second squaracter isn't unrealistic

Just saying, I'm glad that dumb term I came up with of 'Squaracter' is catching on.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I wouldn't put too much stock in Sony making an announcement. Most of the games that were present at last year's EVO had an announcement attached to them and, with all the fighting games this year being on the PS4 except Smash, this was bound to happen regardless.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Okay, here's a thought experiment; besides Geno and a second FF7/DQ character, who else would be tough to negotiate for from SE?

I wasn't a hardcore Geno fan back in the day, but I know that the newer people trying to spare us all the hurt of being overhyped for what could potentially be nothing aren't dealing with fragile people.

I know that feel. Damage control happens all the time on the Shantae thread, even though most supporters there have experience with being disappointed.

To new people, it's the biggest setup for failure. To us, it's only Tuesday.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Sony making an announcement. Most of the games that were present at last year's EVO had an announcement attached to them and, with all the fighting games this year being on the PS4 except Smash, this was bound to happen regardless.

Also, these guys didn't show up for E3, they know that nothing they can do would be able to have Nintendo beat at big events.

 

[Firox]

I wouldn't put too much stock in Sony making an announcement. Most of the games that were present at last year's EVO had an announcement attached to them and, with all the fighting games this year being on the PS4 except Smash, this was bound to happen regardless.

But why would they take sponsorship of EVO and specifically say they WOULD make an announcement? I mean, it's definitely suspicious since Nintendo should have more claim what with Smash being the single biggest game there and all. So far, I think the most likely thing they would announce is SF6, but there's still something fishy going on here, in my opinion.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Edit: Well guys, I have to go to work in several hours so I'm going to hit the hay and get some rest before I go. See you guys tomorrow.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Sony making an announcement. Most of the games that were present at last year's EVO had an announcement attached to them and, with all the fighting games this year being on the PS4 except Smash, this was bound to happen regardless.

Yeah, since we didn't get a Smash reveal at last year's EVO I don't expect to see one this year either. Now this is a slim chance, but I think the only Smash related announcement we could see there is an announcement for a Smash or Nintendo Direct like they did for last year.

I know that feel. Damage control happens all the time on the Shantae thread, even though most supporters there have experience with being disappointed.

To new people, it's the biggest setup for failure. To us, it's only Tuesday.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Like I've been saying, I'm expecting an announcement of an announcement of a Smash Direct at EVO unless Hero's drop announcement suddenly comes to fruition in about *checks watch* four or five hours.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Like I've been saying, I'm expecting an announcement of an announcement of a Smash Direct at EVO unless Hero's drop announcement suddenly comes to fruition in about *checks watch* four or five hours.

Depends on the implication of Jon's teasing statement at the end of his Gamexplain Smash EVO report, really.

 

[ForsakenM]

Imagine seeing a Smash announcement there and it's Crash Bandicoot. But seriously, I think it's too early for us to see fighter number 74#. I feel like we will see the next character when Banjo & Kazooie drops.

So I have been challenging popular views and ideas of my fellow Geno bros, and I guess I'll challenge yet another one.

Why would you think it's too early to show us Fighter #4 of the FP? We saw Joker in Dec and didn't get him until April. It was essentially over five months before we got Joker, and they need to have them all released by Feb 2020. We got two of them revealed at E3, but other than a Nov Direct shadow drop reveal, all we have is TGA if nothing happens at EVO. Wouldn't it make sense if another FP character was revealed at a Smash Direct announced after Grand Finals at EVO, dated to be Winter like Banjo was Fall, then either save the last one for a Fall Direct or TGA? Like I said in March, they are running out of time, and they like to reveal a character well before their release it would seem (minimum a month if we get Hero as soon as we think).

It actually makes perfect sense for yet another reveal at the biggest fighting game tournament in the world, especially considering Ultimate is the biggest game there.

 

[TheCJBrine]

If Jon meant anything, then Hero could come at EVO.

The 7/11 ad in Japan just has a thing that says to take the poster off on the 4th, though, so Hero could come a few days before.

 

[DutchPichu]

Why are so many people thinking a Smash Direct is coming? What can they talk about, apart from Hero and its update? That can be done in a video like Joker. I don't expect fighter 4 when fighter 2 isn't even released. I don't expect bonus fighters until the fighter's pass is over (unless they are free) to prevent from difficulties in understanding what is fighter's pass material and what not.

 

[ForsakenM]

Why are so many people thinking a Smash Direct is coming? What can they talk about, apart from Hero and its update? That can be done in a video like Joker. I don't expect fighter 4 when fighter 2 isn't even released. I don't expect bonus fighters until the fighter's pass is over (unless they are free) to prevent from difficulties in understanding what is fighter's pass material and what not.

Uhh....

More modes?
DQ Crew Gameplay Breakdown.
Mii Costumes coming with DQ Crew.
Spirits coming with DQ Crew.
Stage breakdown.
Maybe even more info on B&K?

Don't forget, Sakurai spent a huge portion of the Nov 1 Smash Direct talking about basic features. They can find fluff if they need it, by golly.

Also, a new character is entirely possible, as I said with my earlier comment: they set the date for Feb 2020 to have all of them released, and they will be revealed before they are released, and they are already running out of time. Having a Smash Direct after EVO would open up multiple things...

• Even though the hype is still strong, it's the perfect thing to do for EVO. This is what most fighting games do there: new characters, big updates (which usually have new characters) or new games.
• This would make the hype go through the roof because we just got DQ Crew and B&K. Dropping the DQ Crew release date as well as the content that comes with them AND a new character reveal for Winter? That would make us all blow our collective loads minds!
• The eventual Fall Direct would be able to focus on everything that wasn't Smash related, leaving doors open for other titles to have big spotlights potentially.
• It would also allow them to potentially announce Fighter #5 in the Fall Direct if they choose, or to save if for TGA. It's really up to them what big announcement they want for the TGA.
• In the event that we DO get bonus Fighter(s), they can have that for a potential TGA reveal as well, assuming FP #5 is revealed in a Fall Direct. I know we have no idea about bonus characters, I'm just throwing it out there.