General Discussion & Character Rankings

[Technodeath]

Clearly you havent met Technodeath yet.

 

[Scabe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqhgI5X_0uc

NICK RIDDLE!@

What an amazing match!

And guys I suck

 

[CAOTIC]

Too bad Melbourne can't ban MK unless the whole of Australia agrees to. hmmmmmm

DC2 was really refreshing because there were not so many MKs around at all (unless people sucked with them in which case it was fine)

 

[swordsaint]

if i came you would've banned my falco and ended up with my mk

 

[...Ellipsis...]

Whats with all the MK hate, he's a pretty cool dude.

 

[Nova]

Too bad Melbourne can't ban MK unless the whole of Australia agrees to. hmmmmmm

Lol I'd be all for it.
I've made no secret of the fact that I can't be ****ed going to Melbourne myself as much anymore because of the plethora of MK's.
1's fine, 2 is ok, 3, 4, 5 (or even 6 in Victoria's case when Chris is there; earl, Afro, Ledge, Nicks, Khoa & Chris ) = no, **** off.
I'd much rather play against any of the other top tiers.
In other words I'd rather play any Snake, Diddy, Falco, DDD, Marth, Wario, etc, etc in this country. If it makes Marth the best, I'd be fine with it; Marth has weaknesses.
Although I'm going to pick up MK purely to be gay and annoy people.

Yeah I'm whining, idc.
MK is gay; sure he might be fun (I admit I like MK V Snake & MK Dittos), but 1: Snake has weaknesses and 2, MK doesn't if used properly. Snake has never won a major in Aus, right?

I'm going to host a major myself (not in Adelaide obviously) where MK is outright banned, some day. Ugggh. Maybe I don't want MK banned, but I certainly wouldn't mind limiting his use.

Also Liam, your Ike > all.

Edit: I'm not a "good" player, but I've seen virtually every good player in this country say what I have just said in one way or another, before, except maybe Ted, but he's epic and doesn't complain.
I always complain.

 

[luke_atyeo]

Now you have to beat Luke.

now you have to beat gopo, scrub.

I would assume the city would be where it is right now. I don't think MK can move cities (or can he?)

maybe not directly, but he can be gay enough to get the whole city to move away from him.

 

[Sieg]

Edit: I'm not a "good" player, but I've seen virtually every good player in this country say what I have just said in one way or another, before, except maybe Ted, but he's epic and doesn't complain.
I always complain.

IMO Nova WOULD be a good player if MK was banned, because then he'd want to play Brawl.

See what MK is doing?

He is HOLDING NOVA BACK.

 

[swordsaint]

there are several players in australia that got nowhere before picking up mk. Im not gonna name names but there are a few who ONLY had success with metaknight. despite the fact they'd been in the scene longer than that.

if you used mk since you started. its all good. but srsly. people who change mains because they suck otherwise annoy me.

 

[Vlade]

Metaknight might just be more suited to them as a player

 

[swordsaint]

Metaknight might just be more suited to them as a player

*Metaknight is suited to everyone as a player

 

[luke_atyeo]

reminds me of this other guy I know who wasnt winning and changed from pit to falco, who is similar to mk in that he is an easy win button, but not quite as broken.

 

[Sieg]

Falco is easy?

Shouldn't it be BRAWL is easy?

HO HO HO.

 

[Nova]

Well! He is easier to use than any other character, minus maybe Olimar. ^_^
Also Scott people should be allowed to change mains lol.
I say I hate Kirby and Diddy a lot, but it's not because I think they're broken, it's because I'm bad against them.

I have more trouble with Tibs' Diddy than any other character in this country (Corpse being the only "top" player I haven't played, I'd lose obviously).

Thank **** Melb has Tibs...

Scott the only ones who started as MK were Amaterasu and Earl, right? I think people should be.....(no I don't really I'd prefer all MK's to die) be allowed to change.

Especially when you have people like Ricky who start with mains like Ness then get uber-****ed with stupid grab releases. Or Ledge...who uses Olimar, who is a glitchy irritant (used to main him as well).

Nothing personal obviously, but as a whole for the community, I honestly believe MK destroys almost the entire roster; every character excluding himself has to work harder.
How balanced. Yawwwwen.

 

[Attila_]

someone mentioned limiting his usage. that sounds like a swell idea. one match per set, anyone?

@nova: earl didnt start with mk. link --> snake --> mk. it was an early transition. and falco isnt easy to use. frame perfect recovery and the hardest at in the game, dayo.

 

[swordsaint]

Falco is easy?

Shouldn't it be BRAWL is easy?

HO HO HO.

shut up


hey, luke.
...

your funny.

man you are so right.....It's not like I wasn't using Falco at the same time I was using pit or anything...and actually managed to place well with pit...and it wasnt like I was instantly good when I picked up falco or anything... (hint: I was already beating your *** )

why dont you try using falco...

 

[Splice]

MK is fun.
Regardless of when you started using him, he's all around the most fun and the best and if everyone just used MK we could have epic MK dittos all day. Because they are the best. But MK makes me bad with GaW because I spam Dair more with GaW after using MK...

Also, we can't ban MK if we want this MLG thing... because I'm pretty sure we'd need a similair/the same ruleset as America for it. Else it would hinder that, right?

PS: Scoot the only person who was crap and then used MK and was pro is Ledge... And he was better with Olimar. Unless you mean someone not from Victoria?

 

[swordsaint]

nah

im not really hating on anyone

but a few people who had more success after changing to mk would include

liam
earl
ledge

AS luke and vlade said though, plenty of people change characters and have more success with OTHER characters that arent mk

 

[Alzi]

I agree with what you said swordsaint. People who suck generally and just move to metaknight and become pro with him. You can tell this quite easily when the other characters they play are extremly bad.

No one in the perth scene has really moved to metaknight as a main it was generally from the start of brawl they picked up metaknight that is why i respect all the MK players in perth. <3 Theres only one though.

 

[Splice]

Earl used MK at like his 2nd or 3rd tournament... Not sure if that's enough to warrant the label you are putting him under.

Also Ledge came 9th at Rocky without MetaKnight, and he was better before he picked up MK, it's just now with MK he doesn't get beat by randoms who are worse than him just because Olimar decided he would cut his wrists with Pikmin instead of use them to tether to the stage and such. It happens sometimes... But I'd much rather he used his MK against me than his Olimar when his Olimar is in good form. And Olimar is supposed to be cake-slice for Game and Watch om nom.

And Liam is good too! ^_^

lol

 

[C~Dog]

Its probably too late to ban MK now anyway.

Before: "Let's ban MK because he is the best by a significant margin and the metagame would be more diverse without him". "No, let's wait and see what happens, the metagame will evolve ways to counter MK."

After: "Okay we waited to see if something would happen, and MK is still the best by a huge margin, so let's ban him now." "No, too many people use MK and they would have to learn new mains."

Also featuring: "Let's use a temp ban to gather data on the metagame without Metaknight." "No."

EDIT: Splice, you could use the same arguement, that now ledge beats players who are better than him just because he uses MK.

EDIT: attila: one match per set wouldn't work, because then you can still use him on your opponents CP to remove your disadvantage.

 

[luke_atyeo]

lol dont get mad scoot you scrub, you said something and I turned it back on you, and you did start with pit.
hint: you didnt even play me back then except in doubles where I was already beating you ***.

fox's sideB recovery is harder then falco's attila, and falco is pretty easy, 1 hard at or not.

 

[...Ellipsis...]

nah im not really hating on anyone
but a few people who had more success after changing to mk would include liam

This is not really true as the best i have placed with MK is 4th best I placed with DK is 4th. Although if I played DK again now I wouldn't place as well but that is also partially due to the fact that I have mainly been playing MK for close to a year now.

 

[swordsaint]

lol i wasnt mad luke dw

but yeah i didnt start with pit...i think. my first tournament i got 9th or something with marth (I think? I cant really remember)

Oh yeah, i think it was marth, link and wolf lololol. man so long ago

my second tournament I randomly played pit in doubles did some cool stuff. decided to play him singles got 7th.

next came hunter. I was doing well with pit so I used him the whole way and got me a 3rd with pit.

I was all over the place in the beginning. eventually spreading out to snake, falco, marth, fox and probably a few others.

eventually I found falco and slowly started picking him up. never used him as much as the others, because i was convinced i should counterpick everyone...then people were all...nah GO FALCO ITS YOUR BEST.

so i did that.

hey luke. if you really think falco is that easy. pick him up. (now im not trashtalking you or anything) but i really would be interested in the kind of level your falco would be if he's so easy.


EDIT:

liam, i never said you were bad dw. your dk and other characters are amazing. but you've definitely only risen to where you are now using mk. whether you would've done that with dk or not is questionable, but NOONE can say either way.

do i really sound that angry on the internet all the time? if so please read it as happy, because i'll make it obvious if im raging lmao

 

[luke_atyeo]

no, **** falco he's gay and I wont play him, I'll just **** with fox instead.

 

[earla]

mk is ****in good. get over it or don't play brawl.

his very beatable.

the good players will **** you with any character.

don't you guys get tired of spending your days *****'ing about a ball with wings and a sword.

 

[luke_atyeo]

cmon earl, give scoot a break, its not like he's got anything else to do with his life

 

[swordsaint]

cmon earl, give scoot a break, its not like he's got anything else to do with his life

because its not like you're doing the same thing right now

 

[luke_atyeo]

actually I'm not, I'm sitting at work getting paid to put up with you people.

 

[Nova]

Earl, is there ANYONE in Melb that has beaten Tibs without using MK? Besides maybe Attila?
Corpse and Tedeth are the only people that have in the past (since he's been really good), without MK.
Stop being defensive, this is the first time I've ever openly whined about how stupid MK is.

 

[swordsaint]

I should really consider doing the same actually.

 

[Splice]

Its probably too late to ban MK now anyway.

Before: "Let's ban MK because he is the best by a significant margin and the metagame would be more diverse without him". "No, let's wait and see what happens, the metagame will evolve ways to counter MK."

After: "Okay we waited to see if something would happen, and MK is still the best by a huge margin, so let's ban him now." "No, too many people use MK and they would have to learn new mains."

Also featuring: "Let's use a temp ban to gather data on the metagame without Metaknight." "No."

EDIT: Splice, you could use the same arguement, that now ledge beats players who are better than him just because he uses MK.

EDIT: attila: one match per set wouldn't work, because then you can still use him on your opponents CP to remove your disadvantage.

don't you guys get tired of spending your days *****'ing about a ball with wings and a sword.

loloolololol awesome posts.

PS: Conor, You could say that Ledge uses MK and now beats people better than him... But that would be lying. Unlike my previous statement. Which was true.

BTW Nova, I've beaten Tibs. With Game and Watch.

 

[Sieg]

get over it or don't play brawl.

I think he's onto something here.

 

[Nova]

In a tourney set Splice? Since he's been decent? When?

I beat him the first match I've ever had with him. Doesn't mean anything.

 

[Splice]

In a tourney set Splice? Since he's been decent? When?

I beat him the first match I've ever had with him. Doesn't mean anything.

Ohwell Nova guess it's too hard to believe, obviously i could never beat tibs. Nevermind!

 

[swordsaint]

Ohwell Nova guess it's too hard to believe, obviously i could never beat tibs. Nevermind!

not answering the question at all

 

[Sieg]

Tibs is pretty amazing.

 

[Splice]

Sieg your post count mispelt 1337.

 

[Nixernator]

So like, all the people who think MK should be banned, why don't you all play him and place top 4, nah that'd be too hard hell lets say top 8 and actually be able to say the only reason you placed that high is because of MK. Chop chop.

Face it in Australia the top players don't play MK (Tibs, Corpse, Ted) we don't need to ban MK.

PS: Splice could beat tibs with Jiggz, true story just needs the right level amirite?

 

[Nova]

Lol, didn't even have to try.
Sieg is right though.
And Viva is also awesome.
So are you Splice, when you're not trying to play devils advocate.

Spoiler

Trollololololol

For the record, I'd never quit Brawl over some people using an easy to use broken character. But I wouldn't expect me to stfu about it anytime soon.
And it's only Melbourne.
Because they can't beat Tibs, so they all resort to MK. :D

Spoiler

Trollololololol, yes I'm trolling, drongos...

Mk is still gay though.