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Attila_

Attila_

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i versed a good zelda. it almost beat my snake. almost. that being said, i had NEVER versed one before. and he knew the snake mu inside-out. shes ok i suppose.

but sheik is actually a character capable of winning tournies.
 
Nova

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My rules with Sheik/Zelda.

Zelda is good, for KO's only, but she's pretty friggin obvious, she creeps up like Snake with an U-tilt, just an U-smash instead (which doesn't nearly have the range, and is very hard to DI out of despite what some people claim, great shield poker though). P-p-p-poker shield, p-p-poker shield! <3 On the fatter people the b-air and f-air are also pretty decent options. Killing with Sheik earlier is always the better option. If Shiek is unable to gimp or take an early kill before say like 90% (higher for people like Snake who are just fat fridge eating whales), I turn into Zelda after a D-smash or something from Sheik when it is safe obviously, this gives Zelda entirely fresh smash attacks). I don't care what other people do, I'm a rebel. Unless the person has bad loading lag with changing characters (PT can have this trouble as well). I ****ing rage hardcore at that. U-smash under platforms is fun with Zelda, poking Shields that way should make Zelda heal herself completely. I don't care if it sounds unfair. >_> Sheik is obviously a WAY WAY better option for MK though. Lol @ 80% kill with grab release DAC. Serves the freak right.

Plus the transformation to Zelda/Sheik refreshes the moves. Sheik is way better though, Zelda is however useful in her own ways (Ice Climbers is definitely one match she beats Sheik in). Oh and Zelda's grab release on Wario is just sexy. Too bad a decent Wario is almost impossible to grab. It's also amazing at how many people try and attack me when I transform straight after dying; failing to realise the invincibility stalls while she's transforming. Silly silly people. ^_^

Also, whoever agreed with me on Kirby, please win the lottery. He is a total annoyance.
 
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I believe the "W" word is forbidden in this thread. >___>

Anyway, Zelda is terrible. She has... Din's Fire and an upsmash. But oh god it ***** me.

Shaya said:
Sheik issssss amazing.

If only her nair came out like a couple frames earlier,
and killed a little bit earlier too.
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And her moves beat out things as silly as Ness nairs?
 
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Fexyfoxay

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lol why do ppl even talk like brawl is a technical game

its **** slow paced crap. melee is so much better in every way, u ppl should try it.
 
Nova

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Fexyfoxay said:
lol why do ppl even talk like brawl is a technical game

its **** slow paced crap. melee is so much better in every way, u ppl should try it.
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Fexyfoxay, you really are an ignorant, single minded dullard, you know that? You probably don't because you are one, but guess what? Now you do. Why can't some of you people (Brawl or Melee sided) just accept that different people like different games for a variety different reasons? Some people will like Melee more, some people will like Brawl more. The complete and utter stupidity of people like you, who feel so threatened by a community we should all be working to build on that have to constantly (or in your case create an account to simply troll?) make remarks like "Oh Brawl is so lol; so casual; so easy; so slow; not technical enough; no wavedashing; people that play it and do well suck at video games" is absolutely uncalled for. Not only does it show your lack in any ability at all allow for any amount of acceptance in your life in regards to what other people engage in, it just makes you sound like some proselytising door knocker. Telling our scene (being Australia's) to try Melee is laughable as well. Kas and Caotic would like a word with you.

You say Brawl is slow, of course it's slower than Melee. That doesn't mean people can't enjoy it as much as they do with Melee; this is where we'll have to go back to educating you on the ideals of individuality; to each their own. What exactly is the point of spraying your anti-Brawl tripe in a Brawl discussion thread where people are discussing the game? The Melee scene is not dead, it's far from dead. Queensland and Victoria/NSW (are you even from Australia) have thriving Melee scenes and let's be honest, the only reason you're bothering to post this fuel infested pugnacious vapid tripe is because you feel threatened that Melee will die off; IT WON'T. I was at Rocky and despite me not being good at Melee myself I actually found the Melee finals (and a few of the semi's) to be extremely entertaining. The room was blasting with energy, for both games.

I've never understood this Melee V Brawl thing that goes on with some people. They're separate games, they appeal to different people; some people like both of them; some people don't. Surely by now the whole Melee > Brawl thing would have died off, considering that Melee is (and will continue) to have a strong following. Being a ******* about it doesn't give your posts any amount of merit, it just simply makes you look like (surprise) a *******. Do you understand how dumb you sound when you get all jealous over a size of a scene from game you don't like? Melee is a great game, I love it. I like Brawl more, but I don't run around like some jealous Days of Our Lives cast members throwing spasms because other people don't. Grow up and suck on an egg.

tl;dr: Melee V Brawl is boring. Get over it; accept other peoples interests and shut up if you don't agree with them when it's over something so minor as a video game. Cry less.
 
Atlasmist

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why cant be accepting of both games and move on and wheres the love 4 64 smash too it's an evolutionary game!!

gamers stuggle enough to get along coz they dont like the other games in short we are not the same as afl. they share different teams we gotta converge and come to understandings between us otherwise we fall apart
 
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Fexyfoxay

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lol wtf calm down metanova. i was just stating my opinion on the game.

your post almost makes me feel violated.
 
C~Dog

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Fexyfoxay said:
lol wtf calm down metanova. i was just stating my opinion on the game.

your post almost makes me feel violated.
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What.

You come into the Aussie Brawl Central Thread to tell us how **** Brawl is compared to Melee, and then you have the ****ing nerve to tell us to calm down?

Get the **** out.
 
Attila_

Attila_

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seconded.

metanova was just stating his opinion of people like you. now delete your account and try again under a different user name.
 
Vyse

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Hi Fexyfoxay and welcome to Smashboards.com

You'll find that Australia has very dedicated scenes for both Brawl and Melee. If you want to talk about Melee I suggest you post in this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=256347

Secondly, I wholeheartedly agree with Metanova's post. Saying Melee is better than Brawl is like telling me that Hockey is better than Golf. You can't compare the two mate. The debate has been done to death and to put it simply many of the reasons why you may dislike Brawl can be easily turned around into reasons for liking Brawl.

I can argue Cricket is a boring and uninteresting game to watch. But people still do, I still do. Just consider that please. And consider that whilst that may be your opinion, it's also against the rules of the website to troll people (which is what your post achieves), and is obviously an opinion that would have been unwanted in this thread.

Either way, people here are pretty forgiving and pretty cool. Brawl isn't as shallow as you make it out to be, and I know Melee players who can watch a Brawl match and appreciate it for what it is.

All of Australia's (and the world's) Melee players got over the argument a long time ago and now we're all best pals :)

EDIT: Oh and, why are you wasting time playing smash when you could be playing a real fighting game like Street Fighter 3 ;)
 
Nova

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Yeah I'm somewhat apologetic for that post earlier Fexyfoxay, I probably went a bit overboard. Just don't bash games just because you don't like the style of it.
 
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Been meaning to ask this for a while as I've heard from people, but never really (and am lazy) looked into it.

True or False: When you grab someone and pummel, this refreshes staled smash attacks to a certain extent? If it does, is it just smash attacks, or is it all moves?
 
Jupz

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It refreshes all moves. Each pummel just bumps along each attack on the stale moves queue. If a smash attack is near the end of that queue and it gets bumped off its no longer staled. You know how staling works, yes? :)
 
Browny

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It only refreshes for every pummel if you pummel slow enough to not be counted as a multi-hit attack. some characters have pummels which for some reason hit fast enough to count as multi-hit attacks if you mash A, hence they dont refresh more than once. if you simply tap a at the right speed, it will refresh for every hit. Its really complicated lol and depends on more than just the pummel speed. Characters who do this can vary the speed at which they press A to pummel at almost the exact same rate, while one refreshes once but the others refresh every hit.

Thread with detailed info
 
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