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Smash Hero
One piece going merry made me cry
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asianaussie
Smash Hero
going merry made everybody cry
Xyzz
Smash Champion
The ending episodes of Air are also incredibly sad (and super awesome) (;
I didn't really think clannad is sad (haven't seen the second season yet). Really, really enjoyed it... but sad? Not really.
I didn't really think clannad is sad (haven't seen the second season yet). Really, really enjoyed it... but sad? Not really.
GwJ
Smash Hero
I actually didn't like Air at all.
Maybe I just didn't "get" the show.
Maybe I just didn't "get" the show.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
nobody 'got' the show, it was a meh adaptation
this is where i repost all those pictures of people laughing
Xyzz
Smash Champion
That is where you disqualify yourself in terms of taste 
Ah well... de guestibus non est disputandam and all that, i guess
Ah well... de guestibus non est disputandam and all that, i guess
deadjames
Smash Lord
Just finished Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt. For the most part it was really good, but the ending ruined it because it ended with to be continued, but it's highly unlikely that there will ever be a second season.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
the point is that you are judging clannad without having watched after storyThat is where you disqualify yourself in terms of taste
Ah well... de guestibus non est disputandam and all that, i guess
also bro, you have like, the most non-discriminatory choices in anime i have seen on this forum, to the point where i think you just watch things that are even mildly adorable
Xyzz
Smash Champion
I wouldn't even try to deny that. There's great shows that aren't cute in the slightest, but if something is adorable enough, I don't need much else to enjoy a series.
Regarding Clannad: I wouldn't dream of judging the whole franchise having only seen the first series. I meant to refer to just that one specifically.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
more to the point
why is ANYTHING higher on your priority list than after story
why is ANYTHING higher on your priority list than after story
Xyzz
Smash Champion
There really isn't. I just rather enjoy watching things as they air, and made the mistake of sampling way too many things this season and most of them were enjoyable enough to warrant continuing. (and now i'm super behind thanks to two weeks of work spent away from home... grrr :D)
Sure, it'd absolutely make sense to stall the airing "okay" series in favor of shows in my backlog that I'm fairly sure I'll enjoy a lot (Clannad is one of the most fun things I've ever seen). Somehow that's hard to do though.
Sure, it'd absolutely make sense to stall the airing "okay" series in favor of shows in my backlog that I'm fairly sure I'll enjoy a lot (Clannad is one of the most fun things I've ever seen). Somehow that's hard to do though.
Rutger
Smash Master
| Kailex |
I smell like salty coins and milk
I stopped watching anime for more than a month now, trying to give myself a chance to do other stuff and activities. Ill start re-watching later next year, I already missed more than 200 eps e__e God itll take me forever to catch up to anything
roxolid
Smash Cadet
Recently watched then read Attack on Titan, and just started Sword Art Online today. I prefer reading over watching, but I don't mind watching if it's done as well as those two were done and if it stays canon.
GwJ
Smash Hero
SnK manga > SnK anime
roxolid
Smash Cadet
Yonder
Smashboard's 1st Sole Survivor
I'm bored, so I'm just going to throw all the anime that I've watched into a tier list. The side notes are very general.
A tier:
Puella Magi Madoka Magica (For anyone who judges this based off of the promo pictures, just watch past the first 3 episodes. I felt so attached to these characters, great plot twist involving one of the girls who I thought was going to end up a cliche. Amazing music. It's just...great. Again, don't judge it based off pictures, it's actually really dark.)
Basilisk (A more ninja variation of Romeo and Juliet. It's rather high up, but I'm a bit guilty of the whole "characters dying one by one" scenario idk why. I think the whole story in general and how it escalates is pretty good though. There's no major surprises or anything though. Although some characters suck (Gennosuke, overrated. He basically sits indoors doing nothing for 50% of the series. BUT, his power is bar none the best in the show). Don't see the live action movie...
Blassreiter (I didn't think much coming into this series, but the series takes a dramatic turn after episode 5. I thought it was great, especially Malek's character. Although the last episode did seem to rush in it's attempt to basically "kill everyone off".)
Futur Diary (This is another one of those essentially "one by one" death games scenarios I like. Cept this one is more humorous at parts. And the female protagonist is well, creepy... originally this one was much lower because of just how incomplete I felt the ending was for poor Yuki. Until they released the OVA episode which was very satisfying.)
Sword Art Online: I really, really enjoyed the entire world and environment created in SAO. And...everything else was ok. I mean, nothing really shocking happens, sides from a plot twist near the end of the first half. After the first half of the series though, the 2nd half is...decent. Just not as good. The atmosphere is really immersing though. I felt like I escaped from reality too.
Elfen Lied: I don't think this anime is honestly as sad as everyone makes it out to be. In fact, it's basically just a huge overuse of blood and nudity. I would of liked to known a lot about the Dyclonian species too. But, nonetheless, this series succeeds for two reasons to me. One, the character of Lucy/Nyu and her backstory (which was the only tragic part of the series for me) and THAT FRIGGIN AWESOME THEME SONG. I don't care how much it was overused, I love it. That's the song that can made everything in that show 100 times more sad. Without it...I swear this would be in B tier. It's also the first song I learned on my guitar so kudos.)
B tier:
Gantz (This one was doing pretty well too, until the last portion of the show. Then things got rather unbelievable. And the ending sucked. Of course, they rushed to finished this though. Idk why, the manga is still going on which is superior to this.)
Samurai Champloo (Yeah I know this one is rather popular, but I thought it was just ok. While I did enjoy the main trio, there were lots of irrelevant episodes in the mix that didn't contribute much. And the ones that set up a new possible scenario...were never expanded upon. The ending was fine though. Nice and satisfying.)
Hiatus:
Full Metal Alchemist (This one is very good, I've watched about half of the Brotherhood and the original version. While the Brotherhood one cuts out all the irrelevant episodes (although some of them I rather enjoyed like the other set of brothers episode) it' music I think is inferior to the original. None of those songs did anything for me. Except Bratja I think it was called. Although the English version is superior. Why? Because it's Edward actually singing it, so I think it makes more of an impact.)
So in general, I haven't seen any particularly bad animes...yet.
EDIT: Forgot Soul Eater. I'll just say this: Pre- Keishan release: Top 3 animes I've ever watched. After the Keishan release: Worst anime I've ever watched so far.
A tier:
Puella Magi Madoka Magica (For anyone who judges this based off of the promo pictures, just watch past the first 3 episodes. I felt so attached to these characters, great plot twist involving one of the girls who I thought was going to end up a cliche. Amazing music. It's just...great. Again, don't judge it based off pictures, it's actually really dark.)
Basilisk (A more ninja variation of Romeo and Juliet. It's rather high up, but I'm a bit guilty of the whole "characters dying one by one" scenario idk why. I think the whole story in general and how it escalates is pretty good though. There's no major surprises or anything though. Although some characters suck (Gennosuke, overrated. He basically sits indoors doing nothing for 50% of the series. BUT, his power is bar none the best in the show). Don't see the live action movie...
Blassreiter (I didn't think much coming into this series, but the series takes a dramatic turn after episode 5. I thought it was great, especially Malek's character. Although the last episode did seem to rush in it's attempt to basically "kill everyone off".)
Futur Diary (This is another one of those essentially "one by one" death games scenarios I like. Cept this one is more humorous at parts. And the female protagonist is well, creepy... originally this one was much lower because of just how incomplete I felt the ending was for poor Yuki. Until they released the OVA episode which was very satisfying.)
Sword Art Online: I really, really enjoyed the entire world and environment created in SAO. And...everything else was ok. I mean, nothing really shocking happens, sides from a plot twist near the end of the first half. After the first half of the series though, the 2nd half is...decent. Just not as good. The atmosphere is really immersing though. I felt like I escaped from reality too.
Elfen Lied: I don't think this anime is honestly as sad as everyone makes it out to be. In fact, it's basically just a huge overuse of blood and nudity. I would of liked to known a lot about the Dyclonian species too. But, nonetheless, this series succeeds for two reasons to me. One, the character of Lucy/Nyu and her backstory (which was the only tragic part of the series for me) and THAT FRIGGIN AWESOME THEME SONG. I don't care how much it was overused, I love it. That's the song that can made everything in that show 100 times more sad. Without it...I swear this would be in B tier. It's also the first song I learned on my guitar so kudos.)
B tier:
Gantz (This one was doing pretty well too, until the last portion of the show. Then things got rather unbelievable. And the ending sucked. Of course, they rushed to finished this though. Idk why, the manga is still going on which is superior to this.)
Samurai Champloo (Yeah I know this one is rather popular, but I thought it was just ok. While I did enjoy the main trio, there were lots of irrelevant episodes in the mix that didn't contribute much. And the ones that set up a new possible scenario...were never expanded upon. The ending was fine though. Nice and satisfying.)
Hiatus:
Full Metal Alchemist (This one is very good, I've watched about half of the Brotherhood and the original version. While the Brotherhood one cuts out all the irrelevant episodes (although some of them I rather enjoyed like the other set of brothers episode) it' music I think is inferior to the original. None of those songs did anything for me. Except Bratja I think it was called. Although the English version is superior. Why? Because it's Edward actually singing it, so I think it makes more of an impact.)
So in general, I haven't seen any particularly bad animes...yet.
EDIT: Forgot Soul Eater. I'll just say this: Pre- Keishan release: Top 3 animes I've ever watched. After the Keishan release: Worst anime I've ever watched so far.
GwJ
Smash Hero
I'm not totally sure actually. When I watch the anime, it feels actiony and cool. When I read the manga, it feels conspiracy-y and mysterious. I think it's just a tone thing. I big part of SnK is the whole "Who is the real enemy?" thing and you can't really feel that in the anime nearly as much as you do in the manga.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
i cant tell who the **** is who in the SnK manga
seriously
seriously
deadjames
Smash Lord
Have you ever seen Sailor Moon? I'm assuming not, otherwise you'd know that Madoka pretty much copied and pasted the plot, it's an ok show, but definitely not amazing, the only redeeming qualities are the art and the fact that it doesn't have the ridiculous amount of filler that Sailor Moon does. Also rating Basilisk and Elfen Lied higher than Champloo, I don't even...
GwJ
Smash Hero
Oh man I'm so with you on that. Even in the latest chapters, I can't pin down the author's style well enough to tell who is who sometimes. In one of the recent chapters, I couldn't tell if a person in a very important scene is Eren or Mikasa. That was a VERY important scene too and I simply couldn't tell until I checked another forum for it.
Miharu
Smash Hero
really? i find that mikasa is actually really distinct from eren
the manga's art style is rather grimy though
the manga's art style is rather grimy though
| Kailex |
I smell like salty coins and milk
Just watched steins gate movie... Why is it short? :C Man, im so sad
Yonder
Smashboard's 1st Sole Survivor
No, and the difference between Madoka and Sailor Moon is that Madoka is MUCH darker than Sailor moon. And the characters you actually feel for them during their struggles. Unlike Sailor Moon, it shows that being a "magical girl" isn't all that it's cracked up to be and requires a lot of sacrifices. Even Madoka's ending is bittersweet, for even though they destroyed the witches, corrupted magical girl souls, there's still always going to be a form of evil brought on by the human race, this time in the form of greed. It's a neverending cycle of misery actually.
Sailor Moon? I mean, it has a decent theme song. That's it. And Madoka doesn't rely on sexual exploitations like Sailor Moon with cheap miniskirt. Or dumb, predictable romances like Sailor Moon and the Masked Phantom or whatever his name is. The relationship between the boy and Sayuka ends in tragedy, she makes the ultimate sacrifice of her life just to give him happiness.
Sailor Moon has nothing on this show. Sailor Moon is mostly stock.
And Champloo is honestly just a more mediocre version of Full Metal Alchemist. Champloo left too many questions unanswered at the end. Did that girl ever marry Mugen? Or did that other girl marry Jin? What happened to all the previous characters that they met with before?
The only character that is better in Champloo I felt was Fuu>Winry. But that's about it. I'm not saying Champloo is bad by any means, just that I saw about 30 episodes of FMA is saw it as flatout superior.
Basilisk can go either way honestly. I can see why people would not like it over Champloo, but it's a guilty pleasure for me. I love ninjas and deathgames.
As for Elfen Lied, that one song was just so powerful it overthrew Champloo for a higher spot. It's probably the most beautiful song I've ever heard in an anime, and they always apply it at the right moments so make those scenes all the most saddening when needed. And Lucy/Nyu's character is very, very good and easy to relate to her feelings. I mean, I know Champloo was going for that hiphop samurai theme, and the theme song was...cool, but it's not my style. And they don't exactly implement it well. It just comes and goes. Champloo should of have a more consistent storyline, it just has a ton of mini adventures that are fun, but the main plot usually just feels thrown in there just to get it out of the way. No one's overall skills actually increase over the course of the show, they just stay the same. Unlike FMA, Edward gradually gets stronger over his adventure.
So, now you know.
deadjames
Smash Lord
You clearly either haven't seen much of Sailor Moon, or are really bad at recognizing underlying themes, Madoka is literally exactly the same plot, just less drawn out, all the characters in Sailor Moon go through all the exact same hardships, and Champloo is so dissimilar from FMA that you can't even really compare the two they aren't even the same genre, but FMA is **** regardless, Brotherhood is good though. Finally, Elfen Lied is probably the most overrated horror anime ever, even Highschool of the Dead is better, and that show is all jiggling **** and panty shots, but at least it has believable character development and decent voice-acting. Some examples of horror anime that are actually good would be Hell Girl, Perfect Blue, Hellsing Ultimate, Paranoia Agent, Higurashi: When They Cry, and Corpse Princess.
Edit: Scratch that, Deadman Wonderland and Claymore are more overrated than Elfen Lied, at least Elfen Lied has a proper ending despite it's many other flaws.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
FMA wasn't terrible. Brotherhood was superior in every way, though. I'll agree with that. The only facets of FMA that I enjoyed over Brotherhood was the lore behind the Homunculi (their creation and their weakness, mainly), and how they were characterized. FMA's Greed, for example, went out in a way that I felt was more fitting to the character. Not to say that Greedling (Greed from Brotherhood) didn't have a great curtain-call, but it just didn't sit well with me.
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Somebody mentioned Paranoia Agent. I MUST SING TO YOU THE SONG OF MY PEOPLE.
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In all seriousness, Paranoia Agent was fantastic. Do yourself a favor and watch it twice.
Smooth Criminal
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Somebody mentioned Paranoia Agent. I MUST SING TO YOU THE SONG OF MY PEOPLE.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
In all seriousness, Paranoia Agent was fantastic. Do yourself a favor and watch it twice.
Smooth Criminal
deadjames
Smash Lord
FMA was terrible, imo. I consider every anime that deviates too far from its source material bad and FMA did just that.
Rutger
Smash Master
How the hell did Samurai Champloo lead into Full Metal Alchemist?
I mean, I see where it happened, but I just, what?
At the very least, Trigun turned out fine. :/
Also, not anime, but given what I've heard about the source material, I'm really glad the Shin Megami Tensei series has deviated as far away as it has from the digital devil story novels it was based off of.
I mean, I see where it happened, but I just, what?
I don't really care for the first FMA anime, but that's a terrible reason to dislike something. It's not really a flaw to be different from the source material, it just matters how good the writing is in the new thing.
At the very least, Trigun turned out fine. :/
Also, not anime, but given what I've heard about the source material, I'm really glad the Shin Megami Tensei series has deviated as far away as it has from the digital devil story novels it was based off of.
deadjames
Smash Lord
Ok you have a good point, but the fact that FMA deviated from the source material and had terrible writing was what made it bad, the whole red water nonsense was like, what? Plus Dante was a far inferior villain to Father and the ending of FMA made absolutely no sense and many of the characters were much less developed in FMA, most notably Scar, Mustang, and Hohenheim. Also from what I've heard, the Trigun anime follows the manga pretty well, but they made another manga Trigun Maximum which continues on past when the anime ended. As for Shin Megami Tensei, that universe is so huge I'm not sure if it's accurate to say that it deviated from the source material because the games are all just a bunch of different stories that are set in the same universe.
Rutger
Smash Master
I wasn't arguing the quality of the first FMA anime. The only thing I think it does better than the manga is that it gives us more time with Hughes in the beginning. I don't remember much else from it other than the unsatisfying ending.
I don't know the whole story behind what happened with Trigun, but I believe the manga was canceled for a while, and the anime followed that closely until it had to go off in its own direction. It's been a long time since I've read the manga, but I remember enjoying them about equally.
SMT's first game was Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei and was closer to the novel from what I've heard, but it quickly deviated and became its own beast(and like you said, it's in its own universe, separate from the first couple of games). Perhaps not the best example(especially since I haven't played the early games, and only seen summaries of the novel), but I wanted something that turned out better than its source material and it was the first thing I thought of. :/
I don't know the whole story behind what happened with Trigun, but I believe the manga was canceled for a while, and the anime followed that closely until it had to go off in its own direction. It's been a long time since I've read the manga, but I remember enjoying them about equally.
SMT's first game was Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei and was closer to the novel from what I've heard, but it quickly deviated and became its own beast(and like you said, it's in its own universe, separate from the first couple of games). Perhaps not the best example(especially since I haven't played the early games, and only seen summaries of the novel), but I wanted something that turned out better than its source material and it was the first thing I thought of. :/
GwJ
Smash Hero
On an unrelated note, did anybody get anything during Rightstuf's sale? Here's what I got:
deadjames
Smash Lord
I usually get my anime from amazon so, no. But nice Baccano! and Summer Wars are both amazing. I haven't seen them yet, but I've heard generally bad things about the Evangelion remakes though, same for Afro Samurai.On an unrelated note, did anybody get anything during Rightstuf's sale? Here's what I got:
GwJ
Smash Hero
This is actually partially relevant, but I watched both Champloo and Afro Samurai within a 2-ish month period and I liked Afro Samurai more. Champloo felt like hip-hop retro Bebop and maybe that hurt my opinion of it because I was comparing it to Bebop. Afro Samurai felt so cool. I loved the animation, Samuel L. Jackson did a fantastic job voicing Afro and Ninja Ninja. I love everything about that show. As for the Evangelion Rebuilds... They're good movies, don't be confused. Compared to Neon Genesis Evangelion, these movies should be buried alongside E.T. for the Atari. If you remove the connection and pretend it's an original series, it's definitely worth watching.
The animation's gorgeous too.
The animation's gorgeous too.
GwJ
Smash Hero
I agree that Champloo is good, but I think they could've done it in less episodes. I don't think they answered enough questions to justify the 26 or so episodes.
GwJ
Smash Hero
The definition of "filler" becomes skewed with episodic shows like Champloo or Bebop. To one person, the plot of that one episode is enough to justify its relevance, but to another person it's just an episode to drag along the show.
GwJ
Smash Hero
Right, so going by that viewpoint filler is essentially impossible and therefore saying there's no filler doesn't actually accomplish anything.