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Man, I need to get those Baccano! Blu-rays one day.
Season 2 please Japan, some of these novels need to be animated. ;_;

I saw Summer Wars for the first time on Toonami the other day, it was pretty good.
 

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Like I said, Brotherhood was superior in every way. The aspects of the FMA anime that I liked over Brotherhood is largely inconsequential to that statement. I liked FMA's Homunculi (at the very least, Greed and Wrath). I didn't really like the rest of it. Lmao. Personally, I've seen much worse in the genre, but now we're getting into that whole nebulous territory of tastes and preferences. I don't consider myself to be an anime aficionado, so yeah.

I also don't agree with the whole notion of deviation from the source material making things worse. That's silly. Different takes on things allow for different perspectives, entirely different avenues, in storytelling. It keeps things interesting and fresh. Not to mention that, in some cases, it improves upon the original work. I could rattle off a million and one series (not necessarily anime, mind) that took away from this.

(The first FMA series definitely isn't a good example, to clarify.)

Nothing should ever be sacred or timeless for the sake of being so, or otherwise it'll just stagnate.

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Finished Monogatari Series Second Season a couple days ago, it was really good even though the ending was kind of a bummer, can't wait for Kizumonogatari to come out.
 

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Reading the Baccano! light novels after the fourth time watching the anime, and it's still not getting old. I don't understand why Drrr is so much more popular... I mean, I'm not trying to sound close-minded; I love Drrr too, but not even that is half of what Baccano! was, imo.

Baccano! should be the number one first thing anyone who normally doesn't like anime should see. It has great animation, a flawless story, very unique presentation, kick-butt music, and ALL the characters are lovable... Except for one:

Fermet. That guy can go straight to hell, no matter what.


That is all. Carry on.
 

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Still waiting to see The Slash animated, I haven't forgotten that tease in the first episode. :mad088:
 

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Reading the Baccano! light novels after the fourth time watching the anime, and it's still not getting old. I don't understand why Drrr is so much more popular... I mean, I'm not trying to sound close-minded; I love Drrr too, but not even that is half of what Baccano! was, imo.

Baccano! should be the number one first thing anyone who normally doesn't like anime should see. It has great animation, a flawless story, very unique presentation, kick-butt music, and ALL the characters are lovable... Except for one:

Fermet. That guy can go straight to hell, no matter what.


That is all. Carry on.
DRRR!! is probably more popular because the Baccano! anime is extremely hard to follow because it doesn't flow chronologically, that being said that is like literally its only flaw imo, they're both amazing anime imo.
 

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Doesn't DRRR! not follow chronologically either?

Regardless, DRRR! has a more "anime" setting and characters so that may be why its appeal is larger.
 

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Doesn't DRRR! not follow chronologically either?

Regardless, DRRR! has a more "anime" setting and characters so that may be why its appeal is larger.
DRRR! For the most part flows chronologically save for like a couple episodes that show the same event from a different character's point of view. Also, what does "anime" setting and characters mean? Baccano! is just as much anime as any other anime it just happens to be set in America.
 

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By that I mean character styles, ages (main characters are high school aged), more modern settings. "Normal" par for the course anime stuff like that is what I'm talking about. Baccano has a superior atmosphere, but DRRR! has a more familiar one.
 

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That's a very relative statement, there really isn't a normal setting for anime or a normal age for the characters because there are so many different genres of anime, and in DRRR! only three of the main characters are in high school and the plot doesn't revolve around their high school life.
 

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Has anyone read Kamisama no Iutoori and read through what's out of Kamisama no Iutoori 2?
 

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That's a very relative statement, there really isn't a normal setting for anime or a normal age for the characters because there are so many different genres of anime, and in DRRR! only three of the main characters are in high school and the plot doesn't revolve around their high school life.
Of course it's relative, but I think most regular anime watchers will agree with me when I say the "normal" characters is a high school character and a setting consisting of a city is much more "normal" than Baccano's setting which jumps around a lot.

I'm not making absolutes here, I'm just saying DRRR! is more "normal" than Bacanno in general.
 

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What is the general opinion of Fairy Tail here? I personally love the series.(mainly because of the good fights and humor)
What are opinions on the series?
 

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after reading one piece, you can't not make the comparisons - disjointed story arc style (why does fairy tail feel so disjointed? **** if i know), same sort of protagonist, same camaraderie overtones shoved in your face constantly, same never-say-die and my-band-vs-the-world themes

one piece has a far more epic feel and far more interesting minor characters imo

female empowerment is the only thing fairy tail does that one piece skimps on, and that's really not enough to elevate it anywhere near one piece's level, sadly

still an ok read
 

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I've found Hunter x Hunter to be the best balance. A lot of my friends were intimidated by the length of One Piece and disliked the general style of Fairy Tail. I don't enjoy Fairy Tail myself, but I can see the appeal. Natsu Dragneel is also a stupid name.
 

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the defining features of hunter x hunter are that it is absurdly in-depth (including times when it doesn't need to be, like the confusing mess that was part 2 of the september arc), gives an almost equal focus to every 'main party' character in each respective story chapter (ie. who needs to watch netero vs king of the ants? octopus boy is clearly way more interesting hurr) and is just really deviant in general

i don't see how it's 'best balanced' when compared to one piece or fairy tail or the other A-list shounens, but it would be pretty enthralling (if it weren't for the fact its actual name is hiatus x hiatus)
 

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after reading one piece, you can't not make the comparisons - disjointed story arc style (why does fairy tail feel so disjointed? **** if i know), same sort of protagonist, same camaraderie overtones shoved in your face constantly, same never-say-die and my-band-vs-the-world themes

one piece has a far more epic feel and far more interesting minor characters imo

female empowerment is the only thing fairy tail does that one piece skimps on, and that's really not enough to elevate it anywhere near one piece's level, sadly

still an ok read
Only legit reply, and technically it wasn't a reply LOL.

Female empowerment is ridiculous in FT, Mirijane is scary, as is Erza.....

Can't disagree with most of it, but the story is actually beginning to become *decent* There is finally a larger plot than "New enemy shows up, beat them up". Zeref is supposedly trying to usher a "New age", and a little more about Igneel is out there now, such as him failing to defeat Zeref. (Predicting he trained Natsu for that purpose)

Also, I can easily say the ONE OF main reasons that OP has a more "Epic feel" is because of the diverse locations and traveling they do. I think that world exploration is one of the key factors that make one piece so popular, it's usually never the same area. I dislike it as a series, but I can openly say that Water 7 took my breath away when I saw it watching Toonami.

I do hate seeing comparisons of the two, as both have similar art to each other.

One last thing, FairyTail's anime is coming back in April WHAT NOW BLEACH!
 

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being able to laugh at bleach isn't really anything notable

the larger plot of fairy tail is to be chillax and punch people who attempt to prevent you from being chillax, also something about nakama - aka. the same as one piece's, but without a greater goal, and instead with a string of less memorable ones - i mean, nothing stands out in my memory about fairy tail except for the etherion arc and the grand magic games, whereas i remember everything in one piece from alabasta onwards (note: i don't LIKE everything from alabasta onwards at all, but at least it's all memorable)

all in all, fairy tail is basically an inferior one piece with more boobs, but there's nothing wrong with being an inferior version of probably the greatest epic shounen of our age (ippo is not an epic, conan is weird, zatch bell is gdlk but not quite one piece)
 

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being able to laugh at bleach isn't really anything notable

the larger plot of fairy tail is to be chillax and punch people who attempt to prevent you from being chillax, also something about nakama - aka. the same as one piece's, but without a greater goal, and instead with a string of less memorable ones - i mean, nothing stands out in my memory about fairy tail except for the etherion arc and the grand magic games, whereas i remember everything in one piece from alabasta onwards (note: i don't LIKE everything from alabasta onwards at all, but at least it's all memorable)

all in all, fairy tail is basically an inferior one piece with more boobs, but there's nothing wrong with being an inferior version of probably the greatest epic shounen of our age (ippo is not an epic, conan is weird, zatch bell is gdlk but not quite one piece)
Are you keeping up with FT? I'm guessing not, chapter 366-366 there is some freaky crap. eue Granf magic games was an awesome arc, mainly because I got to watch Lucy get her but kicked. That felt great.

Just to put it in perspective, this arc kicked off with the slaughter of current and former members of the magic council, Zeref is at large, and erza and Mira are up sh*t creek.(won't spoil how)

I do enjoy FT's humor a great deal. Possibly the best humor in any series I've ever read
 

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im up to date with most major shounen, otherwise i wouldnt be posting the way i am

im obviously not mentioning the most recent stuff as 'memorable' because i just read it, of course it's fresh in my memory

and it's really not that special as manga go, no major characters have actually died, and the chance of erza actually getting offed is about the same chance of natsu developing a sudden fondness for microbiology
 

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Fairy Tail has a good backstory and potential, such as zeref, the dragons and wtf they are doin now, acnologia, etc....

That much can't be denied, what FT is lacking is execution of these plots, its just not there.

Also I dont think zeref is trying to usher in a new era, he just wants everyone dead, unless thats what you mean by new era.

By saying Igneel failed to defeat zeref I assume you mean E.N.D, which is a creation of zeref and is the leader of tartaros. Im not sure but I dont think its been explicitly said that igneel fought zeref directly.


Edit: and yeah erzas not gonna die. Even happy didn't die when he flew Jackal to the sky, when jackal himself killed most of the council rofl. It reminds me of Pell in one piece and not dying.
 

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im up to date with most major shounen, otherwise i wouldnt be posting the way i am

im obviously not mentioning the most recent stuff as 'memorable' because i just read it, of course it's fresh in my memory

and it's really not that special as manga go, no major characters have actually died, and the chance of erza actually getting offed is about the same chance of natsu developing a sudden fondness for microbiology
that's just how Hiro writes. I haven't seen any if the main OP characters die (from what I've seen) and I consider it to be good. Killing off main characters could potentially piss off their fans, the last thing any writer should want is to piss off a large amount of their fanbase., causing them to stop reading.(yes, it happens)

Though I wouldn't mind them killing off more developed minor characters, such as Cana. It is a safe approach, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

At least it isn't making its plot overly confusing like Ao No Exorcist is doing right now.

Fairy Tail has a good backstory and potential, such as zeref, the dragons and wtf they are doin now, acnologia, etc....

That much can't be denied, what FT is lacking is execution of these plots, its just not there.

Also I dont think zeref is trying to usher in a new era, he just wants everyone dead, unless thats what you mean by new era.

By saying Igneel failed to defeat zeref I assume you mean E.N.D, which is a creation of zeref and is the leader of tartaros. Im not sure but I dont think its been explicitly said that igneel fought zeref directly.


Edit: and yeah erzas not gonna die. Even happy didn't die when he flew Jackal to the sky, when jackal himself killed most of the council rofl. It reminds me of Pell in one piece and not dying.
I seeped on igneel there, mind you I read it after not sleeping for ~30 hours. I need to re-read it myself.
 

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the fact that fairy tail is trying to introduce these overarching plots at all gives it a disadvantage in execution vs one piece, which is basically BIG TREASURE HUNT COME ONE COME ALL, and any overarching plot is told through specific character flashbacks and arcs, all of which also provide characterisation

it's just far simpler to manage than juggling a story where not every character (read: everyone who isnt a dragonslayer or natsu specifically) is really tied to the big backing plots (dragon, zeref), which leads to exposition on said backing plots being infrequent and unmemorable

it also really hurts that neither lucy nor erza are intrinsically tied to the dragon subplot (and only barely tied to the zeref one, unless im forgetful and mistaken), when they are clearly two of the big draws to the manga in the first place

that's just how Hiro writes. I haven't seen any if the main OP characters die (from what I've seen) and I consider it to be good. Killing off main characters could potentially piss off their fans, the last thing any writer should want is to piss off a large amount of their fanbase., causing them to stop reading.(yes, it happens)

Though I wouldn't mind them killing off more developed minor characters, such as Cana. It is a safe approach, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

At least it isn't making its plot overly confusing like Ao No Exorcist is doing right now.
no spoilers, but one piece definitely has main character death - like, SIGNIFICANT main character death

kana is a token drunkard and killing her would give an opportunity to advance gildartz' character a bit, but it's not gonna happen because she has boobs and boobs are supposedly a reason to read fairy tail
 

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Fairy Tail has a good backstory and potential, such as zeref, the dragons and wtf they are doin now, acnologia, etc....

That much can't be denied, what FT is lacking is execution of these plots, its just not there.

Also I dont think zeref is trying to usher in a new era, he just wants everyone dead, unless thats what you mean by new era.

By saying Igneel failed to defeat zeref I assume you mean E.N.D, which is a creation of zeref and is the leader of tartaros. Im not sure but I dont think its been explicitly said that igneel fought zeref directly.


Edit: and yeah erzas not gonna die. Even happy didn't die when he flew Jackal to the sky, when jackal himself killed most of the council rofl. It reminds me of Pell in one piece and not dying.
I seeped on igneel there, mind you I read it after not sleeping for ~30 hours. I need to re-read it myself.
the fact that fairy tail is trying to introduce these overarching plots at all gives it a disadvantage in execution vs one piece, which is basically BIG TREASURE HUNT COME ONE COME ALL, and any overarching plot is told through specific character flashbacks and arcs, all of which also provide characterisation

it's just far simpler to manage than juggling a story where not every character (read: everyone who isnt a dragonslayer or natsu specifically) is really tied to the big backing plots (dragon, zeref), which leads to exposition on said backing plots being infrequent and unmemorable

it also really hurts that neither lucy nor erza are intrinsically tied to the dragon subplot (and only barely tied to the zeref one, unless im forgetful and mistaken), when they are clearly two of the big draws to the manga in the first place



no spoilers, but one piece definitely has main character death - like, SIGNIFICANT main character death

kana is a token drunkard and killing her would give an opportunity to advance gildartz' character a bit, but it's not gonna happen because she has boobs and boobs are supposedly a reason to read fairy tail
Erza is tied to Zeref easily. Jellal was being controlled by Zeref (indirectly through ultear) and that caused one of her childhood friends to die. Revenge for that one character had advanced development of several minor characters AND erza.
 

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Fairy Tail is a bland series with way too much forced fanservice. It has some interesting world ideas, but it never surpassed being average at best imo.
And it's hard for me to praise its treatment of female characters after one of the most recent chapters.

Edit: and yeah erzas not gonna die. Even happy didn't die when he flew Jackal to the sky, when jackal himself killed most of the council rofl. It reminds me of Pell in one piece and not dying.
At least Pell wasn't turned into a joke in the same chapter. :/

that's just how Hiro writes. I haven't seen any if the main OP characters die (from what I've seen) and I consider it to be good. Killing off main characters could potentially piss off their fans, the last thing any writer should want is to piss off a large amount of their fanbase., causing them to stop reading.(yes, it happens)
One Piece rarely kills off any characters outside of flashbacks, Oda doesn't usually kill unless that death will have a lasting impact on the characters or story.
 

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whatever hatred she has is vastly, vastly, vastly overshadowed by natsu's sheer protagonist rage power, so it won't matter in the end

maybe she'll be a punching bag for zeref's avatar until natsu finishes charging his spirit bomb/eating luxus's hair for a powerup
 

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I feel a little left out because I don't watch any of those long running shounen shows.
 

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Hiro is finally getting into Zeref, I predict a huge battle where Zeref summons most of his creations and goes to war with guilds.

Meaning rogue,sting,natsu,Wendy,laxus,gajeel
And any other dragon slayer VS. Acnolgia (I KNOW I spelled that wrong) igneel's true intentions being revealed, etc.
 

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Fairy Tail's arcs are all nice to read/watch.i believe It's not the are themselves, but the transitions between them, or rather the nonexistent transitions between them.

This is where I compare it to Ao No Exorcist, Blue exorcist has a big arc, then slows down for a while, then has another big arc. Fairytail is just back to back arcs.
 

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we get it you like fairy tail

you should compare it to more than just blue exorcist to get an idea of why everyone else is saying one piece is better

i dont watch a single longrunning show that isnt ippo rising (assuming it will be longrunning), i read everything because it's faster
 

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we get it you like fairy tail

you should compare it to more than just blue exorcist to get an idea of why everyone else is saying one piece is better

i dont watch a single longrunning show that isnt ippo rising (assuming it will be longrunning), i read everything because it's faster
I used Ao No Exorcist because it is a one of my favorite series...

Fairy Tail might actually be getting close to the end. Thinking about it, Zeref has been the main opposing force this entire time. Starting with the lullaby flute, most of the main enemies came from Zeref.

Zeref could easily be the final enemy, and that battle is approaching fast.

I still don't get why one pice is so amazing, it is only half done after +600 chapters? Even Creator has said that he is worn out with it.
 
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I used Ao No Exorcist because it is a one of my favorite series...
ok man, but fairy tail is your favourite favourite series, which is kinda what requires a greater perspective to judge atm

I still don't get why one pice is so amazing, it is only half done after +600 chapters? Even Creator has said that he is worn out with it.
this isn't an argument for why one piece isn't amazing - it's actually the opposite, given how good it continues to be these days

do you know what it takes to keep a manga serialised this long AND keep it interesting enough to sell jaw-dropping numbers of tanks?

either go read it or stop making thinly veiled hipster jabs, it's regarded as the best shounen atm with good cause, and there's a reason people ceaselessly mock bleach and naruto, but generally steer clear of one piece (or just call it 'shounen trash', which speaks more about the person insulting one piece than the manga itself)
 
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