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Ganonic Grimoire (Social) - Commiseration and Hierarchy

Heartstring

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for us, it comes out tomorrow! getting it straight away
also verm, i've been following the pokeyman gen 5 metagame since the japanese release, if needs be i can help you out with it. its not all that hard to catch up with it, stealth rock is still big, however less pokemon can have it now because its not a TM.
the greatest tank to ever exist was made in gen 5, and its english name is ferrothorn. it can have stealth rock, spikes and leech seed (although its been banned in competitive play to have all 3)

also, due to 'dream world' abilities i.e: abilities only gotten through a side game. certain old pokemon are now extremely good, or have gotten even better, for example, breloom got technician, so mach punch breloom is now amazing. and gliscor got poison heal (you now can never kill it)
and politoed is now extremely good, because it can hav the ability 'drizzle' so rain teams were extremely broken, but for the time being having a team with drizzle and swift swim is banned

also for now, garchomp and salamence are currently NOT banned from OU play, and neiher is deoxys-S

as for the new good pokemon, you have the aforementioned ferrothorn, which is good when paired with jellicent (or alternatively tentacruel) there are some new amazing bulky sweepers in the form of rankurusu (think that is it *** name) and conkeldur, psychic and fighting respectively
the pokemon chandelure is the best fire type to exist without being legendary, 140 base spec atk and the ability shadow tag means it is the best steel killer in the game (sadly removing my bro magnezone's reason for existence) also the pokemon excadrill is truly amazing when its in a sandstorm, and still rather bukly.
there are tons others, but they are the main players thus far
i have your skype i think so if you want to talk more i can talk about it
 

Clai

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the greatest tank to ever exist was made in gen 5, and its english name is ferrothorn. it can have stealth rock, spikes and leech seed (although its been banned in competitive play to have all 3)
It's not banned from having all three. It literally cannot have all three at the same time. It gets Leech Seed and Stealth Rock from Torterra, Stealth Rock and Spikes from Crustle, and Leech Seed and Spikes from some poke I'm forgetting, but you cannot actually have all three moves on it at the same time by legal means.

also, due to 'dream world' abilities i.e: abilities only gotten through a side game. certain old pokemon are now extremely good, or have gotten even better, for example, breloom got technician, so mach punch breloom is now amazing. and gliscor got poison heal (you now can never kill it)
and politoed is now extremely good, because it can hav the ability 'drizzle' so rain teams were extremely broken, but for the time being having a team with drizzle and swift swim is banned

also for now, garchomp and salamence are currently NOT banned from OU play, and neiher is deoxys-S

as for the new good pokemon, you have the aforementioned ferrothorn, which is good when paired with jellicent (or alternatively tentacruel) there are some new amazing bulky sweepers in the form of rankurusu (think that is it *** name) and conkeldur, psychic and fighting respectively
the pokemon chandelure is the best fire type to exist without being legendary, 140 base spec atk and the ability shadow tag means it is the best steel killer in the game (sadly removing my bro magnezone's reason for existence) also the pokemon excadrill is truly amazing when its in a sandstorm, and still rather bukly.
there are tons others, but they are the main players thus far
i have your skype i think so if you want to talk more i can talk about it
Before you go, I should let you know that in terms of dream world abilities, competitive play only features pokemon that actually have their abilities released (as in dream world pokemon you can actually use on your DS), so you don't have to worry about Shadow Tag Chandelure, Mach Punch Breloom, or Perversity Smuglord (screw Serperior) right now. Just in case you want to build a team it's good to know what you should prepare for and what you don't have to fear just yet.
 

SpliziT

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I always liked the Pokemon card game better but I stopped playing it years ago. I use to play Pokemon ruby and sapphire and even bought Collesium on GameCube which was kinda cool but I never got into the competitive scene for it.
 

Vermanubis

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Same, Spliz. I tried assembling a team in Pearl once upon a time, but I never followed through. I didn't have action replay or Pokesav, so I had to manually grind my Pokemon, which I wasn't okay with. >_>

My team was good enough to piss people off and **** casuals, but never good enough to be considered a serious competitive team.
 

Clai

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ima time ganon out
You go do that. Just keep in mind that with every second that passes, there may be a moment where your defenses may not be where they want to be or where your physical and mental fortitude are just the slightest bit compromised. And when that moment arises, Ganon will be there, all too eager to shove darkness down your throat, taking a thrill from your screams of agony and fear, gazing into the genuine shock and softness of your eyes and filling his body with the rush of power from raw human emotion. Then suddenly, *SNAP* and all that is your life will disappear, your body no more than a waste lying on the ground to be scavenged by the rodents and vultures, a marker that life will go on without you and that you made nothing of your meaningless, insignificant existance.

And Ganondorf will be pleased.
 

Zeallyx

Fox mains get all the girlz
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Isn't it due out on Sunday? I'm not even sure if I'm gonna get it. The metagame has advanced so ****ing much that I wonder if it's even worth getting into now. Plus, even if it was still accessible to a relative newcomer, the way competitive Pokemon works is just stupid to me. Without the proper hacks, you have to spend accumulative days on end getting a Pokemon to where you want it to be.
In Europe, it officially comes out today. But I got my hands on it yesterday =D

And yes, the competitive scene is quite complicated, but as long as it's fun, it's worth it imo
 

A2ZOMG

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Z1g, I feel like both slapping you in the face and on the back for a job well done in just utterly shocking me.
 

Noobicidal

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Well, we won our second crew battle, no thanks to my failed attempt to time out Samus.
 

Vermanubis

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If I was going, I so would, Ill. But having just gone to Pound, there's no way I can cough up the clams to make it to Texas.
 

DLA

"Their anguish was my nourishment."
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he kinda looks like Ganon IMO. He's a mix of Ganondorf and beast Ganon, assaulted by a flamethrower.
 

Zeallyx

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Tkontk, we gotta play Pkmn Online some day ;}
I'd like that, yes. =)

But I cant get my DSlite on wifi >.<

It says the security system of our wireless isnt compatible with my DS.
What does this mean? =/
 

Zeallyx

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Unfortunately, there's a very slim chance it can be changed.

I'm almost certain WPA in some strange agglutinative language means "*****, you ain't touching this **** unless you have a masters in comp sci"
Oh =(

Well that sucks >.<
 

Exalted

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My immune system sucks. I rarely get sick, but when I do it is *always* during weekends or breaks from school (which is quite a blessing, but Ganon has never liked blessings).

-end rant-
 

Heartstring

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My immune system sucks. I rarely get sick, but when I do it is *always* during weekends or breaks from school (which is quite a blessing, but Ganon has never liked blessings).

-end rant-
well see its a little known fact that when someone stops working, their immune system will also work at a slower rate, therefore meaning any illness one could have been in the process of battling will just run it over and get @ you

also, entering LT with ganon in dogusch, will let you know how it goes when i get back
 
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