Ganonic Grimoire (Social) - Commiseration and Hierarchy

[Heartstring]

get this guy to test it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl6qmRK7sTU

daaaaaaaaa

what the hell was that

 

[Xubble]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHGxBYwH4XE&feature=related

Around 1:20

How does GW do that? @_@

 

[Heartstring]

Yeah, A cpu did that to me the other day, Apprently he can do something involving side b and upb when its one frame from the blastzone *shrug*

 

[Lord Chair]

he got footstooled several times

 

[Xubble]

he got footstooled several times

That close to the blastline? He'd have been helpless and died.

 

[Lord Chair]

he got footstooled during move animations

 

[Z1GMA]

Does anyone know of a reliable streamingsite streaming WM28?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Hmmm so I've been looking at floating points in Brawl... and apparently holding up during warlock punch reduces our momentum forward? Was this known at all?

Same thing for Falcon Punch.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Wait, in the air or grounded?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Both.

Punch floats
2218C 0.125 ?? (read on punch)
22190 0.7 Momentum forward on ground
22194 45.0 ?? (read on punch)
22198 0.8 Momentum forward in air
2219C 0.92 Momentum from holding up

errr sorry it's more momentum.

Could help the Warlock Punch recovery.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Could help the Warlock Punch recovery.

I lol'd.

Anyway, hiya Ganondorf main's. The Dedede boards are discussing their matchups and for some reason after doing top tier, we went straight to the bottom and started the Ganondorf discussion.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=320570

Feel free to express your knowledge on the matchup as we'd greatly appreciate it.

*chaingrabs*

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Warlock Punch recovery is a thing, lol.

 

[Heartstring]

Both.

Punch floats
2218C 0.125 ?? (read on punch)
22190 0.7 Momentum forward on ground
22194 45.0 ?? (read on punch)
22198 0.8 Momentum forward in air
2219C 0.92 Momentum from holding up

errr sorry it's more momentum.

Could help the Warlock Punch recovery.

can someone put this into laymans for me?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

0.8 represents the momentum you get on an aerial warlock punch.
0.92 is how much you apparently get if you're holding up during it.

 

[Heartstring]

aand because its lower than 1, does that mean that it slows your momentum down?

 

[stingers]

No it grants you additional momentum
I always felt like the reverse falcon/ganon punch helped when recovering, interesting to see why that is o.O Good find

 

[Heartstring]

okay im confuz
does it make me live longer or not?

 

[DLA]

I always noticed holding up pushes you forward a bit after the punch. I don't think it has anything to do with the reverse warlock punch momentum.

ALSO

I'm going to Vengeance in OH this weekend. First tourney for me in a few months. Hype

 

[Vermanubis]

Looks like Karamity and Ocean gave people Apex shoutouts recently. I was finally able to get mine translated.

That makes everything much easier to understand.

Verm (Ganon user)
He was a Dio believer Ganon user. His appearance was muscular and cool.
He appears to be America's best Ganon user, and he was saying that he wanted to fight with Dio for the top spot someday! He seemed like he really wanted to meet Dio!

(Still don't know what a "Dio believer" is, though)

verm Ganon ○○ +5$
Real Ganon
His guard was too strong and he B sidestepped me a lot.
I was nervous because during both of our matches, I had 1 stock and my damaged exceed 80%.
Someone asked me who's Ganon was stronger, his or Dio's, so I told him that they're pretty equal.


LOL @ Muscular comment

 

[Supreme Dirt]

It makes you live longer
DAT METAGAME ADVANCEMENT.

Baby steps...

 

[Heartstring]

It makes you live longer
DAT METAGAME ADVANCEMENT.

Baby steps...

awesome, time to start using

Also lol verm-kun. got those honorifics going on now

 

[DLA]

I got 13th out of 78 at Vengeance.


1st seed in pools going mostly Ganon, beating Luckay4Lyphe and Kel. I fought Luckay on livestream and beat his Pit with Ganon game 1, but had to use secondaries against his Pika... Ganon vs. Pika is awful.


In bracket I used Ganon when I could... unfortunately I got a lot of really bad Ganon MUs in bracket. Got a bye round 1, then I 2-0'd MX's with .

Next in winner's was Ally, who I went all against. He 2-0'd me but they were both really good matches. I know the first match got saved, maybe the second one too, I'll try to get someone to upload them. I felt like I was on top of my **** against Ally, but everything Snake was doing was beating out everything Ganon was doing lol. Ftilt is dumb lmao. Honestly though I was really impressed by Ally at this tournament. I haven't seen him go all Snake in bracket in almost 2 years, so I forgot how good it really was. He was ****ting on everyone lmao. Ally's the only Snake I know who plays Snake like he's a real character, and not a campy tilt machine. Good **** ally.


Anywayssss... next was FAE I believe. I opted not to go Ganon against him because he's very good at the MU (plus Ganon vs Lucas is awful) and has beaten my Ganon the last two times I played him in bracket, so I went Falco instead and 2-0'd him. And I don't regret it lol.


Then finally I lost to Roller's ICs... I don't want to talk about it lol. ICs are so ****in dumb and I'm really salty about it. I didn't use Ganon though because it's ICs.


Anyways this is my first time getting top 16 at a regional, and this was a pretty stacked as far as regionals go so I'm satisfied overall.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Good going DLA.

- I have a tournament coming up at April 21st, planning on going full Ganon again.

 

[R e d X]

I have a tournament coming up at April 21st, planning on going full Ganon again.

This mean you're confirmed for Oakville?

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Good **** DLA.

Mad props

 

[DLA]

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/314258050

this is the stream from vengeance... me vs. Luckay starts at about 29:00.

 

[DLA]

Wow this board sucks now.

Who's played SKULLGIRLS??

 

[Heartstring]

I haven't, but i want to. It looks really interesting

 

[DLA]

it's a lot of fun. I play Valentine, the ninja nurse chick... also I'll probably pick up Painwheel, who's like the Ganondorf of skullgirls lol.

 

[Heartstring]

yeah, painwheel looks proper fun. But shes apparently really technical

probs gonna go for peacock, gotta love that disney corruption

 

[DLA]

yeah peacock is nuts. Got perfected by a CPU twice in a row because I had no idea how to deal with her projectiles lmao.

 

[Heartstring]

...
I really need to get this game. But i shouldnt afford it :L

 

[Vinylic.]

You should rent it.

 

[stingers]

skullgirls is amazin
peacock/double =]

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

DLA took 9th at Vengeance if i remember correctly.
He's also a very talented player.

I comain. And doing good with ganon isn't easy.
As a Zelda you should understand that lol.

I'm neither a "player" nor am I "complaining" at all. Just setting the record straight. I mean
just beat my brother with Ness, against his Metaknight, so there IS hope in smash's balance.

Thank god for controller unplugging.



No.



Been there done that...?

You guys are out your ****ing minds if you think you can convince me that some guys Ganondorf is a serious threat in today's metagame. No disrespect to the dude himself, he's a boss for doing well with such a limited character. Pit him against a player who knows how to break Ganon in half or hell, a noob with some MK and watch what happens. I'm not 100% sure, but i'm positive that Gdorf relies on gimmicks to win.

Papa Mink, you don't say? **** I didn't know that? Fun fact, I already addressed already (brawl low tiers are a special kind of bad) but keep trying, i'm surely you'll impress SOMEONE with your badass "cool and aloof I know everything" schtik.

uhhhhh have you SEEN the ganon gauntlet videos from APEX 2012? if not go look them up, these ganons make half decent players their *****es.

Have fun.

DLA

Go kick some *** for me.

 

[DLA]

Lol, I posted but I'm not sure it was what you wanted to hear...... :O

 

[Vermanubis]

Well, guys, I've actually managed to get a tourney together. To my ineffable astonishment, the turnout's looking higher than most NE tourneys. It's this Sunday.

Let's see what PacNW's made of.

 

[DLA]

I hope it goes well for you Verm. Looks like you've been working really hard for the PacNW community.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Yo DLA...
Did we ever discuss your avatar?

 

[Heartstring]

Well, guys, I've actually managed to get a tourney together. To my ineffable astonishment, the turnout's looking higher than most NE tourneys. It's this Sunday.

Let's see what PacNW's made of.

Yeah best of luck. I know how difficult it is to run something, particularly from a dead area -__-