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Alright I'll try that. The thing is, I don't think I'm learning during a match fast enough.
I do lol. It's great but I end up getting bodied and a lot of ppl there don't give many tips.
simply practicing your character to the point that the character becomes YOU will help erase the problem (just fight a lvl 3 CPU all day). you will know how to respond because you will know your options better. get better with your movement with this
That might do it. I've just started playing w/ Roy, and I must admit, I'm still learning what to do when. Maybe I need to play some games as Ness (who I know much better) to really isolate whether or not this is simply a character knowledge problem. Thanks a bunch!
TobiasXK
I owe u man for saving me from going thru the hell of adjusting to that control scheme. U made me realize I wasn't being very practical, my love for wavedashing had gotten to me so I wanted to play this game like I played melee but in reality wavedashing is 10x better than perfect pivots so I'm not even gonna bother with it.
hey loving wavedashing is something i can respect. that was pretty much how i got my start in the Smash scene =]@
there's still use with PP, it's just nobody is skilled enough to apply it in fights@
that will do it. but you got to make sure you know who your main character is too.
Sometimes I will play a sort of footsies and poke game when opponents don't make mistakes. Basically look for ways to make them make those mistakes. As an example, I'll throw out some long range quick pokes like f-tilt as Falcon and maybe cover myself with a single jab because it is quick and they may drop their shield after the tilt. Or maybe I'll try to get on the offensive and get behind their shield with a bair and cover that with an f-tilt. Eventually if they catch onto this you can turn them into grabs. You can be aggressive too, just try to find ways of keeping yourself as safe while finding these sort of traps that I mentioned.
Thanks! I tend to overcommit to actions when my opponent refuses to do anything but jump around so I definitely need to work on that. For rolls, I know how to punish them already, I just meant are there any good ways of practicing it without looking around on FG?
's Metal Blades, 's bonus fruit, 's bombs, and others?
The only way I have found to counter spotdodging is reading the dodge and then punnishing accordingly. IMO there is little downside to it when used frugally, but if you spam it and make it a habit, it is easily punished
& have good aerials for offstage play and have great recoveries for making it back.
That's definitely not a full frame data chart (doesn't include all characters) and I'm not really sure how reliable some of the data is (it could be totally reliable or slightly off). You're probably better off looking at this chart or this data compilation, which are actually from game dumps. 1.0.8 updates won't show because it's old but most stuff is the same outside of things noted in the patch notes thread. Anyways, whenever it says what frame a move comes out on, that's out of 60 frames in a second. So, a move that comes out on frame 10 comes out on 1/6 of a second. IASA means "interruptable as soon as" which is basically the first frame you can act after the move completes. Total frames is how long the move takes to complete. Never really seen the term block-freeze but I'm assuming it means hitlag, which is basically the lag/"freeze frames" characters experience when an attack connects. Blockstun is how many frames of shield stun the move has, so how many frames before you can perform an action while in shield. Advantage (drop) is your frame advantage or disadvantage if your opponent drops shield to attempt a punish, i.e. how many frames they have to punish the move if they drop shield. Advantage (oos) is your frame advantage or disadvantage if your opponent performs an OOS option.
On FG there is input lag so you might want to put that into consideration. All spam is pretty easy to deal with, your problem is probably that you are not spacing well and keeping up pressure, and you are probably running at your opponent. That's how people most of the time get destroyed.
: anything that is good in double, all of this work wonder: you want to copy something useful, so for exemple
I'm definitely running at him. But he never approaches, just fireball, grab, up smash, down smash. I play MK, so I don't have a projectile to make him want to approach. And when I do get close, grabs turn into rolls(must be the input lag, i guess.). I have only beaten on Battlefield and Arena. But those have been close lately. I used be good my neutral game, but lately, I've been sluggish and it's frustrating
