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Fthrow/Dthrow Chaingrab Thread

Ussi

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Blah, I can't tell if i'm buffering right or wrong since I have no one to test this with ~_~;; A video about buffering the grab would be nice.
 

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Your only choice is to sabotage the anniversary... for Pikachus everywhere
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You can start buffering the grab on frame 38 of the dthrow, so that's 11 frames to press and release the z button. Not that hard.
So wait. If you can start buffering a grab on frame 38 of the dthrow, could one buffer anything else, such as a fsmash or something during that window? Or does this time window only apply to grabing?
 

Sei Shin Casios

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ohoh.. so snake up to 70%, ddd to 90%, mk to 60%..
spacies to over 9000%
and you can finish off with an upsmash?

thx a lot for testing!

what else would be nice to know is, if you really have to start at 0% or if it still works, starting at about 10%. (with mk for example)
 

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good find on MK, I'd say yay it works on falco. Boo it works on Falcon, Ganon and other cool characters. And a **** it works on Pikachu...
 

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Why does every character I use eventually get broken ****? @_@
 

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Someone PLEASE make a video. @_@

I really wanna see this. :x
 

[FBC] ESAM

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I was just playing seibrik, and this works on MK and snake. However, snake can nade. But, if you are at the ledge, he cannot do anything since his grenades just fall. So, if you are playing a snake, try to get controller port 4, cuz even if he nades the first one, you still get him to at least 50% (23 + 2 D-throws and a grenade explosion). This is amazing. I was gonna make a vid, but i didn't. Stealth, if you want me to, i will. My brother can help, with at least the confirmed ones.
 

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Awesome.

Seems confirmed. I'm usually a CG skeptic but this seems legit.
Kudos.
 

1nconspikuous

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this sounds really good! CG on MK? excellent find OP. vids pending, i assume?

also, why did it take so long to find? (not complaining, as this is really big, but it is strange.)
 

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because you have to buffer it. normally people dont hit the grab fast enough, so they sheild instead grabbing again. once you get around this it becomes apparent. also the weird mechanics on some of them not being able to work at 0.
 

Spelt

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Does pummeling help with these chain grabs?
Or just with some characters?
 

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I was just playing seibrik, and this works on MK and snake. However, snake can nade. But, if you are at the ledge, he cannot do anything since his grenades just fall. So, if you are playing a snake, try to get controller port 4, cuz even if he nades the first one, you still get him to at least 50% (23 + 2 D-throws and a grenade explosion). This is amazing. I was gonna make a vid, but i didn't. Stealth, if you want me to, i will. My brother can help, with at least the confirmed ones.
Can you please remind us (me >.>) what controller port does to grabbing priority?

BTW, can we buffer anything else during Dthrow's buffer time frame?
 

SSJ5Goku8932

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How great is Pikachu's grab range exactly ?

People may just space much more like when they play Falco.

Although this pretty much means death, so it could be scary O_______o
 

The Truth!

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Pikachu's grab range isnt great, but he has relatively easy ways of setting up grabs.
 

The Truth!

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I wouldnt get anyones hopes up or down, but there could be more CGs then what are on this list based on % and dthrow staleness. Its just difficult to test all of them, which was why some of these were missed in the first place. The same could be true with fthrow. For now though we still have work to do on the stuff we just came across now.
 

Spelt

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So pikachu could possibly have a chain grab on every character?
 

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Video is tomorrow. BTW, pikachu's grabe range is his head basically...also, the easiest way to do this is with your C-stick to grab. With it, you will never ever shield, it doesn't have that function. So, if you don't use the C-stick, put it to grab, it helps tremendously. Video up tomorrow, i went out. Sorry. I will have it on the 4 confirmed characters. BTW, controller port 4 is the best for grab priority in this sense. If player 1 and player 2 grab, player 1 will grab. But, if a grenade goes off and player 1 and player 2 are in the hitbox, player 1 will get hit. I will show it in the vid tomorrow.
 
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