Fthrow/Dthrow Chaingrab Thread

[Ussi]

Blah, I can't tell if i'm buffering right or wrong since I have no one to test this with ~_~;; A video about buffering the grab would be nice.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

>_> how irritating.

 

[Zylar]

Your only choice is to sabotage the anniversary... for Pikachus everywhere

lulz

You can start buffering the grab on frame 38 of the dthrow, so that's 11 frames to press and release the z button. Not that hard.

So wait. If you can start buffering a grab on frame 38 of the dthrow, could one buffer anything else, such as a fsmash or something during that window? Or does this time window only apply to grabing?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

DDD and Snake confirmed...whatever it says on the quoted list.

 

[Fino]

Confirmed on metaknight... stealth just did it to affinity 0-56
you HAVE to buffer it though


~Fino

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Awesome. Thx fino.

 

[Sei Shin Casios]

ohoh.. so snake up to 70%, ddd to 90%, mk to 60%..
spacies to over 9000%
and you can finish off with an upsmash?

thx a lot for testing!

what else would be nice to know is, if you really have to start at 0% or if it still works, starting at about 10%. (with mk for example)

 

[Ussi]

I did suggest cap %. I don't think wolf even gets out at 60% o_o with a fresh dthrow.

 

[_Phloat_]

It took a year for people to figure out a 0-60 on MK.

WDF pika's, step it up!

Good find though.

 

[Ussi]

good find on MK, I'd say yay it works on falco. Boo it works on Falcon, Ganon and other cool characters. And a **** it works on Pikachu...

 

[Fino]

It took a year for people to figure out a 0-60 on MK.

WDF pika's, step it up!

Good find though.

No, 0-56... then you have to utilt


~Fino

 

[Ussi]

why cry about 4% fino. And usmash is better.

 

[OverLade]

Are there any videos of this??

Sounds exciting....

 

[Zylar]

It took less than a year for some person in Japan to figure out a 10-56 or 60 on MK.

WDF pika's, step it up!

Good find though.

Fixed <3 lol

 

[PolMex23]

So if Infinites are allowed at a tourney im going pika against D3s and ima go anther on a *****!!!

 

[Stealth Raptor]

these arent infinites. but yeah this is so epic. and 0-56 on mk. awwwwwwwwwww yeah.

 

[momochuu]

Why does every character I use eventually get broken ****? @_@

 

[Ussi]

There are two types of characters in brawl... gay and gayed characters.

 

[momochuu]

Someone PLEASE make a video. @_@

I really wanna see this. :x

 

[Stealth Raptor]

meh ill make a quick one against mk after i eat food. it looks like it shouldnt work but it does.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I was just playing seibrik, and this works on MK and snake. However, snake can nade. But, if you are at the ledge, he cannot do anything since his grenades just fall. So, if you are playing a snake, try to get controller port 4, cuz even if he nades the first one, you still get him to at least 50% (23 + 2 D-throws and a grenade explosion). This is amazing. I was gonna make a vid, but i didn't. Stealth, if you want me to, i will. My brother can help, with at least the confirmed ones.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

go ahead. i dont have much time anyway lol

 

[PKNintendo]

Awesome.

Seems confirmed. I'm usually a CG skeptic but this seems legit.
Kudos.

 

[stealth3654]

Why does every character I use eventually get broken ****? @_@

Play Sheik please

 

[Ussi]

Play Sheik please

No, Play Ike! (Or MK and get him banned )

 

[momochuu]

No, Play Ike! (Or MK and get him banned )

I played MK when people thought he wad bad. :x

And there's the I.D.C. :x

 

[1nconspikuous]

this sounds really good! CG on MK? excellent find OP. vids pending, i assume?

also, why did it take so long to find? (not complaining, as this is really big, but it is strange.)

 

[Stealth Raptor]

because you have to buffer it. normally people dont hit the grab fast enough, so they sheild instead grabbing again. once you get around this it becomes apparent. also the weird mechanics on some of them not being able to work at 0.

 

[aextreme73]

this probably doesn't help the kirby pikachu matchup in my favor
yay pikachu fans?

 

[Spelt]

Does pummeling help with these chain grabs?
Or just with some characters?

 

[Zylar]

I was just playing seibrik, and this works on MK and snake. However, snake can nade. But, if you are at the ledge, he cannot do anything since his grenades just fall. So, if you are playing a snake, try to get controller port 4, cuz even if he nades the first one, you still get him to at least 50% (23 + 2 D-throws and a grenade explosion). This is amazing. I was gonna make a vid, but i didn't. Stealth, if you want me to, i will. My brother can help, with at least the confirmed ones.

Can you please remind us (me >.>) what controller port does to grabbing priority?

BTW, can we buffer anything else during Dthrow's buffer time frame?

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

How great is Pikachu's grab range exactly ?

People may just space much more like when they play Falco.

Although this pretty much means death, so it could be scary O_______o

 

[J4pu]

<3 pikachu mains
subscribed

 

[The Truth!]

Pikachu's grab range isnt great, but he has relatively easy ways of setting up grabs.

 

[Ugg]

..

Diddy doesn't get CG'd. Yay!

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

..

Diddy doesn't get CG'd. Yay!

Or maybe we just did not test him yet.

 

[Ussi]

I played MK when people thought he wad bad. :x

And there's the I.D.C. :x

Why did you play MK... WHYYY!

 

[The Truth!]

I wouldnt get anyones hopes up or down, but there could be more CGs then what are on this list based on % and dthrow staleness. Its just difficult to test all of them, which was why some of these were missed in the first place. The same could be true with fthrow. For now though we still have work to do on the stuff we just came across now.

 

[Spelt]

So pikachu could possibly have a chain grab on every character?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Video is tomorrow. BTW, pikachu's grabe range is his head basically...also, the easiest way to do this is with your C-stick to grab. With it, you will never ever shield, it doesn't have that function. So, if you don't use the C-stick, put it to grab, it helps tremendously. Video up tomorrow, i went out. Sorry. I will have it on the 4 confirmed characters. BTW, controller port 4 is the best for grab priority in this sense. If player 1 and player 2 grab, player 1 will grab. But, if a grenade goes off and player 1 and player 2 are in the hitbox, player 1 will get hit. I will show it in the vid tomorrow.