It's probably about 55:45.GOD Ike vs MK is like 95:5
Yes.Are you saying Wario fares better against MK and Snake than MK does against himself and Snake?![]()
I'm not skeptical at all. I think it's definetly 55-45 at worst, though I believe it's even. Go play NEO on wifi lol (I've played him offline, I'm just saying).I'm very skeptical of Marth/MK being a close matchup lol but I would like to see these new tricks Marth has. Marth has so much grab release nonsense on MK now (in fact I've noticed MK in general is highly susceptible to grab releases).
Marth has had Grab release nonsense on MK, just people weren't using it for some reason. Some of it like Grab release Nair is hard to pull off but does a lot of damage, and grab release tipper fair kills easily. You can also grab release, Dash, Dancing blade, or up B, Which also kills quick. The spike can be airdodged, but most people wouldn't airdodge expecting a fair, and even if they did you could wait for it, footstool them, then spike them.
Marth has LESS options than MK, but in reality, MK doesn't have any options that marth can't beat relatively easily, you just have to be REALLY good with knowing what to do. Killing marth is actually extremely difficult, and edguarding him isn't easy either as his fair will probably beat anything you could use to gimp him. He punishes Shuttle loop pretty nastily (you can Usmash or Jump and UpB MK as he loops around) and counter/UpB OOS beat out nado really well (though you can just shield and then Dancing blade to punish instead). Even when Marth has trouble killing MK it's still realitively even IMO, because MK doesn't kill a marth with good DI easily either.
*should probably be in matchup discussion thread*