FL Help Thread

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

Hey Fl, this is not to offend anyone or anything but we Florida as a State are behind, our top players are good but we can be so much better, We have TX who we ***** at FAST 1 outplacing us in tourneys now, We're behind as a whole so from now on Me as well as every good player should give people all the friendlies that they want, even afro who said this

14:31] Afrothundah: From now on
[14:31] Afrothundah: I will never deny friendlies
[14:31] Afrothundah: Quote me
[14:31] Afrothundah: put that in there
[14:31] Hrnick12: okay i will
[14:31] Hrnick12: even during mid tourney?
[14:31] Afrothundah: From now on Afro Thundah (ME) will never deny friendlies
[14:31] Afrothundah: Yeah even during mid tourney

Everyone knows how afro hate to do friendlies mid tourney but even he is willing to help FL get better the players that everyone should try to find mid tourney or b4 tourney are Afro Hrnut Seibrik Chops GDX Dreadz Linguini Co18 RedHalberd Hbox...ask us to give you friendlies, i promise to do friendlies with anyone that want to learn, only serious friendlies though, like we'll do friendlies for bags of chips and **** lol, anyways yeah we need to get better because when Tx comes to FAST II we cant get outplaced.

There's No more We Don'T Suck, WE (i am including myself in this) SUCK, so if you want friendlies or have questions or anything you can ask me or any one of the top players in this thread, you should always be able to get a good second opinion from good people...not just random people on other forums, PM us, do smashfests, help us make florida better, TX has got their **** together and they now have alot of amazing players, for a state this big we should have more than 10 amazing players, that means Tally, Orlando, Tampa, and every other place in the state needs to step it up.

Please Don't Close This Frames or any other MODs, its our get better thread so lets get better...our best Placing at COT4 was 17th we could have broken top ten or five.

I'll be the first to ask...afro WTF do i do against wario with snake, and i want a million seriousies with seibriks Hboxs and CO18's D3 i shouldnt have lost to Lains D3 but i didnt get the friendlies i asked for before i left for COT4, No Johns i just want to get better at the match

FRAMES DONT CLOSE THIS PLEASE

 

[Frames]

yo hrnut are u serious right now do u need a thread for this thing i thought it was just assumed by the fl players...

 

[spider_sense]

lol, I've always been told to play Brawl, I'll give it a shot.

 

[Master Raven]

I'm always happy to play friendlies with everyone.

 

[AfroQT]

yo hrnut are u serious right now do u need a thread for this thing i thought it was just assumed by the fl players...

Yeah we do IMO.
And no its known that i rarely do friendlies.
But i'll do em now.

Hrnut willdiscuss wario on AIM

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

yeah afro and me think this and he wanted me to make a thread so i did, i want people who want help to come to this thread and ask for help, next time i go out of state i dont want to lose to platform camping mks or chaingrabs...and nor do i want the same for anyone else so we want to make this,

and even if its assumed FL has to see that even their "top" players aren't that good and that we need help if we're gonna do better, so please keep it open like i've asked snakes what to do against wario, no one can tell me, but i know that afro knows, thats why we're using this thread, to help people get better so please leave it open...i need rob and pikachu practice too, i need alot of help that i know florida can give me, so im making this thread for people who want help from fl like i do, only fl can tell fl how to get around what fl does, if that makes sense to you

@master raven
Next time i come down to SFL ill be sure to find you and play you in as many friendlies as you want, i play falco now so i want to get some good mk practice with him

@Spider_Sense
Please play i'm tired of Inui Saying we only have three good people, next time he comes down here i want him to get dead last place from florida players

Linguini, please take brawl seriously again, you're really smart and we need more smart players playing the game, just play brawl and melee

 

[Malk]

friendlies now!
you gotta drive to north carolina now, honor demands it

 

[nevershootme]

all this just to blow $200-300 to go OOS and win $1000-2000... lovely

you do know u can always stop by FIU any day to play us in all seriousness (applies to SFL people only, oos can come too), 2 tv's in game room plus my dorm for any additional practice.

I do provide serious practice with snake, mk, olimar, zss, peach (currently studying her) so it's basic training,

btw, don't limit to those people in green... that's like being selective on specific people. i don't see my name there (not that i care),

 

[AfroQT]

Vs Wario you need to keep Wario away. For Snake its really campy. You have to make Wario think its unsafe to approach, and then beat him with grenades while he waits for an opening. Knowing how to bait an opening is really good, like Full Hop NAIR backwards (so it autocancels when you land) and then grab when he approaches with a Dair. If you do a Full Hop Nair and he approaches by air you should be able to land and shield without getting hit, but if he reads your Nair and goes by ground you could get Fsmashed. If you think hes gonna land on the ground and approach while you nair, nair forward instead of backward. It'll force him to shield and he wont be able to Fsmash you outta shield before you can shield.

Grenade games are pretty important. Probably the most important thing is that Wario's Dair will blow up a grenade. So if your shielding with a grenade your safe, just watch out for Bite because that wont set off the grenade and you'll get thrown before the grenade goes off. Random Usmash is good as well because it provides aerial pressure to wario if only for a sec or 2.

You can techchase the fvck outta wario. Every getup wario has is slow and clunky. The only decent one is his getup attack, which starts behind him instead of infront of him, but thats easily solved by shielding when you see any movement. Wario's forward get up is even horrible, the roll is quick but when he gets there he stands there COMPLETLEY VULNERABLE for a good amount of time. Its also not very far. The same applies to the back roll. His standard get up is also very slow. If wario decides to wait on the ground, you can jab once into grab. Its probably escapable, but it may not be and even if it is they'd have to DI the first hit of jab immediately. Essentially you have to make use of every downthrow. If you watch my videos vs Reflex, you'll see me rackig up alot of damage vs Wario with Dthrow, including kills.

Wario can combo the hell outta snake, so when you get hit you have to react fast. Trying to pull out a grenade is a decent option but it might not always work since Warios hitboxes arent big. DIing Wario's attacks AWAY and UP is good (EXCEPT for Fsmash, Waft, maybe Ftilt) is good so he cant follow as much or as easily. Its easy enough to recover vs Wario as long as you arent recovering low. If your recovering low he'll bite your Cypher so you might as well C4 Recover (either that or die). If your recovering high just use the grenade pivot thing alot. Some warios go up after you and some dont, i know i do alot. So vs me you'd have to mix up grenade pivot with Airdodge. If a wario waits on the ground just try to avoid them by mixing up platforms and junk.

EDIT:
Killing - Since most of wario's approaches are by air. When Wario gets to kill % he literally loses about 90% of his aerial game. Almost ALL of his aerial game can be stopped by a well spaced Utilt. It could be a good idea to use Utilt to wrack up damage. Since you can do nasty **** to Wario outta grab release (Like Nair, Dair, Utilt, Uair.....Anything pretty much), you could use Utilt for damage and Release Grab Nair for kill). Could work, iunno. Killing Wario isnt hard.

We'll play friendlies my wario vs your Snake later.

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

thanks FRAMES, YOU ARE A MAN among MEN lmao

thanks fro, wow i've been looking for this info forever, and it was right her in florida not on any snake boards

 

[Rx-]

This has been my logic all along.

I say it three times a week in the UCF thread.

Edit: Afro Thunder? more like...

LAUGHRO BLUNDER

amirite



lolz i miss the old days

 

[Linguini]

im playing....im playing.

 

[Hai Im Fearless]

But brawl is dumb why don't we all just play melee?

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

lol, good...i'm so tired of hearing bad stuff about FL...so bring that dk and mk and **** face

@fearless
Please don't down talk brawl in this thread, its to help people not to degrade

 

[Hai Im Fearless]

lol, good...i'm so tired of hearing bad stuff about FL...so bring that dk and mk and **** face

@fearless
Please don't down talk brawl in this thread, its to help people not to degrade

But.... it's dumb....

 

[Hai Im Fearless]

Ok you guys want to know how to beat Olimar? It's pretty easy, you see.

Be Snake, Marth, Peach, or WeeGee. Do moves better than him. EZ

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

Ok you guys want to know how to beat Olimar? It's pretty easy, you see.

Be Snake, Marth, Peach, or WeeGee. Do moves better than him. EZ

olimar isnt that easy, i've seen some olimars beat all those characters, i recently lost to KBM, he beat my snake and marth, and ICs so its not quite that easy

 

[nevershootme]

more like kill all pikmin and u win, and know when they're grabbing.

hrnut: I'll play u with my olimar for any additional training

 

[Hai Im Fearless]

Yeah just don't get scared.

BTW Olimar can't beat ICE Climbers your controller must have been ****ing up or something did you blizzard desynch?

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

i tried but i got owned by lots of grabs, and didnt you beat hylian?? i usually grab before i desynch them even though i know there are other ways to get do it

@8-Bit
Cool i could definitely use the practice, ill give you practice of any one of these 6 Marth, Falco, Snake, Mk, Pika, Kirby and if anyone wants practice vs a particular character ill study them and get good with them to give you practice,

except

 

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Be Snake, Marth, Peach, or WeeGee. Do moves better than him. EZ
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lmao. I didn't even know this guy was still around.

 

[Masky]

i need rob and pikachu practice too, i need alot of help that i know florida can give me, so im making this thread for people who want help from fl like i do, only fl can tell fl how to get around what fl does, if that makes sense to you

HRNUT, next time we're both at a tournament let's play a bunch of games, I can give you Pikachu experience and you can show me how to be good. I wanna play EVERYONE next tournament also even if I have to be really annoying and constantly ask, give me and Lio some time and we're going to be legit threats to OOS players

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

okay masky i promise the next time we're at tourney ill play you and Lio as much as you guys want as long as the tourney host permits it

 

[DtJ Jungle]

****s legit yo

go get em guys :D

 

[Toneh]

nice thread!
hmm anything good to know for snake dittos (since i never get to play any lol).
And, snake (me) vs diddyyyy
nice wario info homie

 

[CO18]

This is good stuff. Ill be glad to help out.

Also I could've sworn I saw colbol at my school today lol or someone that looks just like him

 

[PolMex23]

i can give Luigi help xD

You dont wanna face BigLou or Boss without knowing the match up trust me they and I will **** you

Now that I play more like Boss i am a legit Luigi Knowledgeable **** main...so ask me for friendlies to son!!! You never know if your gonna face BigLou or Boss =)

 

[Toobz]

I want Melee friendlies! I main fox. I can do the most useful technical things, but not the flashy stuff. What I DO need is more playing experience. Anyone who lives around Orlando/Apopka, lets play MELEE! I get flustered when I play against good players, and I need to eliminate this nervousness!

 

[SheerMadness]

lol Toobz I think this was meant to be a brawl thead.

Anyway I'm not sure I agree with you guys about FL being behind. What like only 2 of our top 5 players have even been to a big OOS tourney and you guys did pritty good.

And who cares what people think about us anyway, we'll eventually show them that we ****. Like in melee everyone made fun of Florida for like 3 years and now Florida is easily 1 of the best melee states in the country.

 

[kismet2]

Hey HR, I could help and give some friendlies at next GIGs. I'm going to need some practice for Fast2 as well, I'm going to friendly until I collapse.

 

[Toobz]

lol Toobz I think this was meant to be a brawl thead.

Anyway I'm not sure I agree with you guys about FL being behind. What like only 2 of our top 5 players have even been to a big OOS tourney and you guys did pritty good.

And who cares what people think about us anyway, we'll eventually show them that we ****. Like in melee everyone made fun of Florida for like 3 years and now Florida is easily 1 of the best melee states in the country.

oh oops Well the point remains!

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Ok you guys want to know how to beat Olimar? It's pretty easy, you see.

Be Snake, Marth, Peach, or WeeGee. Do moves better than him. EZ

lol, Snake is NOT a good choice against Oli. 0-50+% from one grab, grabs outrange everything you have, Pikmin toss > nades.

It's a horrible match-up. One of if NOT Snake's worst.

 

[MikeSanti]

Wow, Good **** you guys. Usually try to stray away from asking you guys for friendlies as I'm most likely not at your level yet but thanks for the reassuring words. I'll be sure to give you guys a heads up for friendlies, I want to train my Marth all the way.

 

[Frames]

why is dreadz on that list hes good but u make it seem like hes da best or something

 

[Master Raven]

lol, Snake is NOT a good choice against Oli. 0-50+% from one grab, grabs outrange everything you have, Pikmin toss > nades.

It's a horrible match-up. One of if NOT Snake's worst.

Where is there evidence of this? I haven't seen any Snakes get badly ***** by Olimar.

 

[NickRiddle]

I want friendlies too. :'( Also, anybody who needs/wants any help with anything about ZSS just let me know.

 

[petey_did_it]

been givin friendlies since day 1. just so every1 knows u can play me anytime

 

[Deadweight]

Where is there evidence of this? I haven't seen any Snakes get badly ***** by Olimar.

Exhibit 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FidzJTllaSA&feature=channel

Exhibit 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmM1pCYCv6A

Exhibit 3:
Hrnut vs KBM

Also snake forum has it a **** matchup ....
w/e that means

 

[NickRiddle]

Exhibit 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmM1pCYCv6A

Did you...Really...Bring a match from that long ago as proof?



Other points were good...But, seriously?

 

[HRNUT (Honey Roasted)]

Hey HR, I could help and give some friendlies at next GIGs. I'm going to need some practice for Fast2 as well, I'm going to friendly until I collapse.

definitely kismet, no more epic spikes at the end of matches though