First hit Nair>Dash attack combo (+vid)

[Face124]

Wow. You really don't understand do you?

Im holding on to this. All i want is knee to come back.

I don't think that will be happening anytime soon.

Go cry. Now lets have some proper discussion Falcon boards *rubs hands*

 

[Ayaz18]

I "follow" Knee do I? Please do elaborate.

gladly,

any thread he makes you and others blindly agree with him........infact I don't think you have disagreed with him yet. That's not healthy at all.

And when I say healthy I don't mean for your Falcon gameplay, I'm talking about general health, people are not supposed to blindly agree with people, if you do then becoming the person you agree with............which in-turn is following..........

if you had a girl I imagine you would be pussywiped so hard that you would have a tatoo of a ****** on your back.

that mentality is not healthy face....... try not to agree so much, explore your options...........if effects your real life and your gameplay, but i'm not worried about your gameplay.......

again don't take this to heart, i'm just speaking my mind

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Why are people seeming to think i'm like,a Knee follower or something? Where did this come from, its starting to piss me off. Please direct me to at least one post where I have said Knee has not posted any misleading info. I realise and I acknowledge Derceh's argument, but the thing I am most annoyed about is his manner of conveying it.

You have never polluted the boards with incorrect info, so there is no problem ^_^

just saying.

I apologize for my uncouth behavior people. Although people like Knee, darx and Face won't forgive me, I want to right my wrongs and start again.

Firstly, I withdraw all things I have said against Knee, he seems like a nice guy intent on advancing Falcon. I withdraw all statements that people could find rude and apologize for them.

I know I've caused upset, but please do let me start afresh. DarX, your MK analysis thread was fine, better than I could do, and Face, you aren't one of the Knee "followers", I said both things to get to the respective people.

yayyy. try to make amends as you have committed evil deeds.

 

[Darxmarth23]

Go cry. Now lets have some proper discussion Falcon boards *rubs hands*

Wow. Didn't expect that from you. Anyways...you are right we should.

What do we talk about today?

 

[Player-3]

this reminds me of my childhood...

 

[Darxmarth23]

Can we please stop arguing and talk Falcon?!?!

I'm getting old over here.

 

[Face124]

gladly,

any thread he makes you and others blindly agree with him........infact I don't think you have disagreed with him yet. That's not healthy at all.

And when I say healthy I don't mean for your Falcon gameplay, I'm talking about general health, people are not supposed to blindly agree with people, if you do then becoming the person you agree with............which in-turn is following..........

But, I've not done that I've disagree'd with a lot of his stuff.

if you had a girl I imagine you would be pussywiped so hard that you would have a tatoo of a ****** on your back.

HAH. Attempts to be funny fail a bit. Considering I'm actually quite built for my age thats a bit empty.

that mentality is not healthy face....... try not to agree so much, explore your options...........if effects your real life and your gameplay, but i'm not worried about your gameplay.......

again don't take this to heart, i'm just speaking my mind

Ayaz, I think most of this post is based on the fact that I agree'd with Knee in this thread, no? Please quote where I have mindlessly just said "great thread Knee", without any contribution.

just saying.


yayyy. try to make amends as you have committed evil deeds.

lol. Suppose I stepped right into that. Maybe I was trying to just get him back, but no excuses, I got *****.

 

[Ayaz18]

you guys REALLY want to know why I still continue this argument?

because In the end either Knee will permanently leave OR he will learn his lesson and stop feeding spam.

 

[Player-3]

*changes main to ganon and joins the less moodswingyboards*

loljokes i luv u gaiz too much <3

 

[Ne Derceh]

Bet knee wishes he had never made this thread

 

[Zeallyx]

Ah I see ayaz is here ^_^

and I don't regret making this thread ^_^ it shows me how everyone thinks of me, wich is nice to know regardless if its positive or negative.

As Darx is the only one still supporting me, as the rest turned against me to dodge the 'follower' bullet, (except for ayaz, who just said what he thought) I think I'll be away for a while, so I can't feed spam.

If anything, I should thank you Ne Derceh, even though you maybe weren't the person who you made us believe you are. But the perspective you showed us, regardless if you were or were not looking, or agreeing, with said perspective, alot of people turned out to agree, or said they do look through said perspective.

Face also dodged the 'followers' bullet nicely, as he should have, as he is not a 'follower' at all. ^_^

 

[Player-3]

i never turned against you.. i never agreed with anyone really =|

bai knee <3

 

[Dxkid]

? im confused wtf just happened

i come bakc to the boards n i see arguments?

And what happened to Knee

 

[Darxmarth23]

Good bye Knee.

I did all I could.

 

[Wogrim]

Go cry. Now lets have some proper discussion Falcon boards *rubs hands*

Wait... wtf?

you guys REALLY want to know why I still continue this argument?

because In the end either Knee will permanently leave OR he will learn his lesson and stop feeding spam.

Lol. I'd like him to stop making so many topics, which is why we had him create the TKONTK's findings thread a while back, but that didn't last long.

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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214716
Someone tell me Knee doesn't have followers?

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Am I the only one laughing at this point? 1 troll caused 5 extra pages of crap while I was sleeping.

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TKONTK: If you take this seriously and try, maybe limiting your new topics to like 2 per month, that would be sweet. I had more posts than you till about 2 months ago then you suddenly went on a crazy posting spree.

 

[Roager]

ToKnee, don't be stupid, Darx isn't the only one who hasn't turned against you. I appreciate all you do for the Falcon boards.

I'd have talked more earlier, but I've been gone all day, except for that few minutes when I posted back on page 4.

This thread has no point. Yes, I am aware ToKnee posts a lot. That doesn't make him bad. For ****'s sake, guys, it's not worth seven pages of Falcons arguing with each other about what is and is not spam.

Dare we forget that this entire thread became what it is because of a TROLL POST?

Whatever, I'm done. You've heard my two cents, take it or leave it. I'm headed off to a party now, so I'm not gonna be here to see what all else happens.

 

[Redson]

I think you guys need to call RJ Punch into this thread and show Derech who's boss.


2Knee, as a random moogle Sheik player who picks up Falcon at random times, I got to say that this is a nice find, and I evidently lack half of a proper human brain, kupo.

Keep up the good work, though, kupo.

[/randomCaptainFalconboardspost]


Edit: Those smilies are HAWT-SOME, Knee. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise, kupo.

 

[Tenki]

Wtf civil war in

no.

I think you guys need to call RJ Punch into this thread and show Derech who's boss.

yes.

ToKnee, don't be stupid, Darx isn't the only one who hasn't turned against you.

What is all this with 'turning against' and 'followers'?

If anything, I have that kind of push.

Seriously,
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214640

"oh noes, Tenki wrote it!"

I could possibly lie about one of the topics there and people would take my word for it. But that isn't my style. I did, however, leave certain things ambiguous on purpose to let people figure things out themselves.


Remember the "Sonic just got worse" thread in Tactical Discussion?
I was the one who brought it up 'first', how to DI it for the counterattack and everything, in our private group. Someone tested it (on wifi lol) and found that some characters could countergrab Sonic out of D-throw, and from that point, it exploded when Boxob posted it in TD.

In a sense, I agree with Derceh's sentiment, especially when it comes to testing such combos offline with other players.

I did find that it was possible for people to get guaranteed jabs on Sonic out of counter-DI+tech on his D-throw. But after testing offline with 'buffered'/held shields, I found out that alot of the stuff that Sonic mains were really afraid of getting hit by (Luigi up-B, MK D-tilt, Snake U-tilt, etc) were actually either ill-placed or powershielded by buffered shields. There seemed to be a 3 frame limit to things that could hit Sonic overall, even taking into account different teching times. But the counter-grab was actually avoidable, since the Sonic could roll or spotdodge before the grab could come out.

Anyone reading (or TL;DRing) that might wonder what all that Sonic talk was for.

It is important to test things for yourself.

however, this isn't to completely nullify Knee's findings/other threads. At the worst, you may not have inescapable followups, but at least options in case of someone not airdodging.

 

[Tennet]

I wish there was a Knee for every character board, man I don't post in the falcon boards but man you sure are one hell of a help. When you come back, if you do... come back with something super sexy.

 

[Darxmarth23]

The people who caused Knee to lurk instead of posting disappoint me. Honestly, I expected better from them. I'm taking a long leave from the boards.

Good bye Falcon Mains. Cheers.

 

[Dxkid]

Not Darx D= i didnt do leave cuz sume *******s did a bad move

Dammit dere goes another :/

 

[Lareit]

The people who caused Knee to lurk instead of posting disappoint me. Honestly, I expected better from them. I'm taking a long leave from the boards.

Good bye Falcon Mains. Cheers.

I must agree. The falcon boards prior to this thread had been fairly loyal to one another. This just makes them a bunch of pricks and scrubs like all the rest.

 

[Ayaz18]

lol you guys are all like "ohh noes knee is gone! now there going to be nobody who's going to help Falcon's meta-game!" it doesn't take much to be a leader, infact all it takes is guts. Knee proved that, he had the guts to come outta nowhere and tell us things that we should be doing; however, knee also posted mass amounts of redundant information on numerous occasions making him a mis-leading leader.

if your getting so pissed off about knee leaving them follow him and leave, I know that I don't have the time for you then. We can all lead discussions and such, so why is it such a big deal that he's gone?

so much drama on the Falcon boards, too bad this scene had to happen

 

[Player-3]

were the drama kings.
because were men.

 

[nash123]

This reminds me of the peach boards.

 

[TheTickleMonster]

C'mon gents,

Seriously, you aren't getting anywhere. Everyone is wrong here. The great commonality is that everyone on this board (including myself) uses Falcon. That is in and of its self, incorrect- or at least terribly misinformed and dreadfully misdirected logic.

bottom line;

If you play to win, don't use Falcon.

If you play for ****s and giggles, rock that ****, play him every d4mn day.

for the love of god, THREAD OVER.

 

[Alzi]

Intresting thing you have found. This should improve my captain falco games against friends and to have some mind games with falcon ditto's.

 

[Roager]

lol you guys are all like "ohh noes knee is gone! now there going to be nobody who's going to help Falcon's meta-game!" it doesn't take much to be a leader, infact all it takes is guts. Knee proved that, he had the guts to come outta nowhere and tell us things that we should be doing; however, knee also posted mass amounts of redundant information on numerous occasions making him a mis-leading leader.

if your getting so pissed off about knee leaving them follow him and leave, I know that I don't have the time for you then. We can all lead discussions and such, so why is it such a big deal that he's gone?

so much drama on the Falcon boards, too bad this scene had to happen

You're confusing losing ToKnee with losing everything. I for one am fully aware that discussions can still happen without him. That said, the fact that this whole thing happened proved to me and others among us that we (the Falcons) don't stick together as much as it seemed.

That's depressing. Very much.

 

[Psychoace]

This is stupid and is now spam...

 

[kupo15]

Ok I don't go much on these boards so I may be wrong but what I see from this thread is that everyone recognizes how bad falcon is and that you can't main him in tourneys and no one really wants to that they play falcon because they love him so much. Given this and how unfortunate this has been for falcon, I think that every falcon main should play brawl+ at some point. I mained MK/pit in brawl and now I main falcon.

Here is a promo vid of what falcon SHOULD be doing but can't due to what brawl did to the smash mechanics. And NO. Melee air dodge is not used and therefore Wavedashing is NOT possible.

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/8Rweqc4SADM.html

I have a couple of matches in my yt
www.youtube.com/kupo150

Take this how you will. Just a strong suggestion to truly experience how falcon should be played.

Keep in mind brawl+ is a WIP

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Ok I don't go much on these boards so I may be wrong but what I see from this thread is that everyone recognizes how bad falcon is and that you can't main him in tourneys and no one really wants to that they play falcon because they love him so much. Given this and how unfortunate this has been for falcon, I think that every falcon main should play brawl+ at some point. I mained MK/pit in brawl and now I main falcon.

Here is a promo vid of what falcon SHOULD be doing but can't due to what brawl did to the smash mechanics. And NO. Melee air dodge is not used and therefore Wavedashing is NOT possible.

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/8Rweqc4SADM.html

I have a couple of matches in my yt
www.youtube.com/kupo150

Take this how you will. Just a strong suggestion to truly experience how falcon should be played.

Keep in mind brawl+ is a WIP

lmao that sounded like a infomercial.

"are you tired of losing with falcon in brawl. Well you should play brawl+." lolol

advertising ftw.

 

[kupo15]

lmao that sounded like a infomercial.

"are you tired of losing with falcon in brawl. Well you should play brawl+." lolol

advertising ftw.

lol. Didn't mean it like that..playing falcon in brawl+ is too fun to keep to myself

 

[RebazTalei]

knee, must you post new threads for EVERY single thing you find? This is blatantly obvious as a combo to anyone with half a brain. And whatis with the knee followers? Half the boards and probobaly all the noobs hang off his every word whether or not it's a crap idea or combo or whatever and even if it is pure ****. I'm sick off him and his random cockiness and his stupid little followers who think he is great. You should all be following someone better like Ayaz18. Also the sheer number of people ignorant to how bad falcon is quite staggering, or no, worrying. I also want ayaz to finish his guide, it's by far the best, and has the potential to get easily past Knee's and Face's if he made it bigger.

you're an ***, he is just helping out the people who use C.falcon.
this whole community is made out of terrible people(not everyone ofcourse) just flame people who are cocky and ****. dont Flame people that try to help others.


falcon boards are supose to be manly, when i look around i see drama.
YOU GUYS BETTER SHUT UP . AND SHOW EACHOTHER....YOUR MOVES.

 

[Ayaz18]

you're an ***, he is just helping out the people who use C.falcon.
this whole community is made out of terrible people(not everyone ofcourse) just flame people who are cocky and ****. dont Flame people that try to help others.


falcon boards are supose to be manly, when i look around i see drama.
YOU GUYS BETTER SHUT UP . AND SHOW EACHOTHER....YOUR MOVES.

no Rebaz, He's trying to help but his help is not useful............infact can make some people use Falcon terribly. He has discovered some good stuff like the ledge canceled FK to knee which I commented on as a good find (i used this in a tournament match) but then he comes up with like 200 crap threads that mislead the community.

drama is evident on a board filled with 08 joiners..................

 

[RebazTalei]

no Rebaz, He's trying to help but his help is not useful............infact can make some people use Falcon terribly. He has discovered some good stuff like the ledge canceled FK to knee which I commented on as a good find (i used this in a tournament match) but then he comes up with like 200 crap threads that mislead the community.

drama is evident on a board filled with 08 joiners..................

Dude...i'm trying to eat some noodles.
if its not usefull, just ignore it. and he will know it not usefull.

dont flame him for it. atleast he is trying instead of the people that get looked up too.
just eat some Noodle's/Ramen and watch some good porn and everyone will become happy.

ok? ok.

 

[Ayaz18]

Dude...i'm trying to eat some noodles.
if its not usefull, just ignore it. and he will know it not usefull.

dont flame him for it. atleast he is trying instead of the people that get looked up too.
just eat some Noodle's/Ramen and watch some good porn and everyone will become happy.

ok? ok.

I love you Rebaz, i'm actually going to bong some medical green in a couple of hours then go to some trip sites lol

but heres the thing Rebaz, if he just makes more threads he's making less room for useful threads, like my guide was just bumped down off the first page in a matter of days because of knee and I discontinued it because of that. We can't let **** like that happen again.

 

[SuSa]

Unless you only make a discovery like once a month /lol me @ Link boards/ you should have all of your discovieres in one thread.

Look at the Pika boards, and the "90 Pika Tricks/Techs" thread. Sure, they aren't all from one person, but you can still do that.

I know Knee has a thread, that links to all his threads basically <_>, why not just have the information all organized in one thread? Rather then making people click 30+ threads.

I agree with both sides in a way.

Knee is doing the right thing, the wrong way.

People are telling him to do the right thing, the wrong way.

Both parties are in the wrong, but trying to do the right thing. It's almost ironic in a way.

 

[Wogrim]

Knee already posted in his findings thread about him not making more threads. Give it a rest.

 

[DemonFart]

allright guys this is over now, anyway...Brawl+ makes falcon look so....sexy lol ^__^

 

[TheTickleMonster]

God****it, Falcon in Brawl plus is just Melee Falcon. get that crap out of here- he requires absolutely no skill to play in Brawl+. Just point him towards the other person, and combo. Its not even fun.

Brawl+ takes the mindgames out and replaces them with hitstun.

also, aside from my posting, why the hell is this thread still going?