abcool
Smash Ace
I am 24. How many of you are going to Apex 2014? If Armada doesn't go Plup/Hbox might take doubles this time.
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EXTENNNDUURRRRRR (samus gen. disc.)
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Phonz
Smash Cadet
im 17 and dont have the means to go to Apex 
AppleAppleAZ
Smash Journeyman
So who is the most technical Samus player? Is it still IHSB?
Jagoffian
Smash Journeyman
I would say either IHSB or Knut (dem SHFFMCs)
Pluplue
Smash Ace
pff ya aint the most technical til you perfect aerial interrupts
*leans back too far in chair and falls off*
*leans back too far in chair and falls off*
ManoxMano
Smash Journeyman
http://ask.fm/DJNintendo/answer/56822313170
http://ask.fm/DJNintendo/answer/56833863634
Knowledge bomb, good for newbies
http://ask.fm/DJNintendo/answer/56833863634
Knowledge bomb, good for newbies
ManoxMano
Smash Journeyman
There definitely hasn't been a real good samus ditto, in a tournament setting, in a long while.
I think moneymatches are in order
I think moneymatches are in order
I got mine against Knut on youtube, cool match to watch but he owned me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCG9qQT8-Kw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCG9qQT8-Kw
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
getting owned by knut that scrub lol
Jagoffian
Smash Journeyman
Only Plup vs Hugs match I'm aware of.
ThePrime
Smash Lord
24 im comin to apex ill be kickin it
Jagoffian
Smash Journeyman
In case ya'll weren't aware, some new Cyr vids have gone up.
vs. Baxon
vs. Overtriforce
vs. Ice
A lot of good stuff in there.
vs. Baxon
vs. Overtriforce
vs. Ice
A lot of good stuff in there.
I think my power level is seriously underestimated. Now that I have money to travel, you'll be seeing me at a lot more OoS tournaments. Apex will be a big one, but also going to be at more CO, CA, NM, TX, and other western tournaments (ride permitting).
Jagoffian
Smash Journeyman
You should attend a Super Smash Sunday. There always seems to be more than a couple Samii in attendance (including myself), and Hugo has gone to like every one.
ManoxMano
Smash Journeyman
I haven't seen enough of you guys to make a descicion
Get on that stream guys!
Get on that stream guys!
Jagoffian
Smash Journeyman
I'm gonna guess Duck.
But I have all of y'all making it out of pools. (well round 1 at least)
But I have all of y'all making it out of pools. (well round 1 at least)
-Philip Coast Philip-
Smash Ace
Machiavelli
Smash Apprentice
I have a friend who is getting into melee (like brand new). For those of you who started with Samus, was she an ok character to start with? Any "I wish someone would have told me" things about first starting with Samus you wouldn't mind sharing?
ManoxMano
Smash Journeyman
You can learn a lot of good fundamentals with samus
Spacing out attacks (wavedashing into ftilt/utilt/jab), Punishing bad moves (UPBOOS, CC dsmash, smashing a roll), and a strong footsie game are essential in being a good samus
Samus is a good char to start in but make him play all the characters. Otherwise he might spend a long time with a character that isn't a good fit and he might get held back
Spacing out attacks (wavedashing into ftilt/utilt/jab), Punishing bad moves (UPBOOS, CC dsmash, smashing a roll), and a strong footsie game are essential in being a good samus
Samus is a good char to start in but make him play all the characters. Otherwise he might spend a long time with a character that isn't a good fit and he might get held back
I played Samus casually for many years before I joined the competitive scene. When I joined the scene I noticed I couldn't kill as Samus so I started to play as Fox cause of upsmash and shine. When I noticed how technical I needed to be to beat better players who didn't get hit by random upsmashes or could dodge my backthrow-shine strategy, I started playing Sheik. I learned the fundamentals and participated in my first tournaments as Sheik/Fox, but still felt something was wrong. I went back to Samus, as she fits my play style the most, and implemented L-cancel and WD into my game not until then.
My advice to your friend is, as ManoxMano already stated, to try different characters to finally find one that fits their style. Different characters are good for learning different fundamentals in the beginning. Sheik improved my sense of comboes, Fox improved my speed and tech skill.
My advice to your friend is, as ManoxMano already stated, to try different characters to finally find one that fits their style. Different characters are good for learning different fundamentals in the beginning. Sheik improved my sense of comboes, Fox improved my speed and tech skill.
-Philip Coast Philip-
Smash Ace
I think you missed the point that it was an impossible attack to tech reactively, I had to have been already rolling onto the stage to do it... i.e. you're missin the joke holmes, get with it!
edit: I don't think Samus teaches you good fundamentals of the game, like spacing, how to adapt, tech skill, etc. She's too easy to rely on because she can tank most hits and float out of others, often causing her to naturally become a reactive type of character. What I would say she offers is forced emphasis on mindgames, or basically, relying on your reading of the opponent to allow you to survive. However, this would plateau at a certain point, unless you already knew how to incorporate other tactics and concepts into your game. Thus, Samus either needs previous know-how and skill to be played effectively, or you need to branch out with characters like Marth (good for spacing, baiting)* or Fox (good for tech, and approach)*. A character like, say, Mario or Falcon<needs citation>, actually serves as a good balance to all this.
*very roughly speaking.
also nice match esam that was fun.
Adict
Smash Cadet
the problem for me starting out as samus that still affects me is the fact of her ground/air speed. because of how floaty/kinda slow she is, i have trouble adapting to the play styles of faster, more technical/fast characters like fox. granted i rarely try to play as them as i get easily discouraged with how poorly i do as them, i do think it reflects back as to how used i am to samus's play style. i would have to agree with what pcp has said and choose a character that implements all aspects of competitive play as their starter, and once the basics are learned branch out and find that character that you just cant get enough of. which is still/always will be samus for me lol
pikmin.org
Smash Apprentice
What are the differences between NTSC and PAL samus? Are they relatively negligible changes?
Pluplue
Smash Ace
You can't use extender :[ and also you can't fast fall out of her up b as early in PAL
pikmin.org
Smash Apprentice
Yeah, that's kind of a bummer. I hate PAL sometimes.
No extender, see title. Boourns
ycz12
Smash Ace
Played a bunch of games on stream tonight, featuring a lot of Sheik. Check it out here:
http://www.twitch.tv/nemelee/b/477050666
1:22:00 ycz vs slightly drunk MattDotZeb
1:27:45 ycz vs Zoso, I play quite well in the second match, and maybe even win!
3:20:30 ycz vs Bank$, who is th0rn's brother
3:29:50 ycz vs Nuro, who is really legit and beat MattDotZeb at this tourney
3:39:00 ycz vs KoreanDJ, who completely dismantles me but it's all good
Highlights:
1:24:55 is a very comical game against MattDotZeb's extremely fraudulent Fox.
3:25:51 is some of the best Melee I've ever played. Check it out for some flashy recovery/edgeguarding technology I think more Samuses should use.
3:34:00 is where I do like 6 Screw Attacks in a row.
3:34:55 is the second best combo of my Smash career.
3:45:40 is a game against KDJ that... may surprise you. (It's on Brinstar)
Edit: Oh, apparently these are going on Youtube tomorrow. Feel free to not suffer through the crappy stream quality if you want.
http://www.twitch.tv/nemelee/b/477050666
1:22:00 ycz vs slightly drunk MattDotZeb
1:27:45 ycz vs Zoso, I play quite well in the second match, and maybe even win!
3:20:30 ycz vs Bank$, who is th0rn's brother
3:29:50 ycz vs Nuro, who is really legit and beat MattDotZeb at this tourney
3:39:00 ycz vs KoreanDJ, who completely dismantles me but it's all good
Highlights:
1:24:55 is a very comical game against MattDotZeb's extremely fraudulent Fox.
3:25:51 is some of the best Melee I've ever played. Check it out for some flashy recovery/edgeguarding technology I think more Samuses should use.
3:34:00 is where I do like 6 Screw Attacks in a row.
3:34:55 is the second best combo of my Smash career.
3:45:40 is a game against KDJ that... may surprise you. (It's on Brinstar)
Edit: Oh, apparently these are going on Youtube tomorrow. Feel free to not suffer through the crappy stream quality if you want.