Dtilt, why would you use it?

[ADHD]

This move seems like its alot of suckage, it has okay range... but its laggy. If I recall its a shield poke? When would you use this, any set-ups?

 

[Palpi]

I have not played Falco a lot, but from my understanding, it can be good with a jab cancel beforehand.

 

[Darxmarth23]

I use it as a surprise launch at high percent.

Sparingly...

 

[Mith_]

Sets up for a CG, can hit people on the ledge. Sends them upward, its up to you to decide what to do after that. It is rarely used in combat.

It kills Kirby at 200% lol.

 

[Vorguen]

I don't remember ever using this.

 

[J4pu]

I Jab (cancel) > Dtilt occasionally

It is a very situational move, but I like where it puts the opponent after it hits.

 

[Denzi]

Dtilt -> CG = inescapable.

Suprise the opponent.

Shield poke.

All three!?!?!?

Other than those, there's nothing else i can think of.

 

[Emperor Time]

I use it to mix it up. I sometimes use it to K.O.

 

[Vlade]

Well the range is deceptive, and if I can recall it has slightly more range than dsmash. Certainly not a move to be used often but good for keeping things different.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I use Dtilt when I happen to remember I even have that attack choice or I whenever I mess up my down-angled Ftilt, so it does a Dtilt instead.

 

[B0mbe1c]

I Jab (cancel) > Dtilt occasionally

It is a very situational move, but I like where it puts the opponent after it hits.

This is about it.
But Dsmash goes both ways, so it is better, plus it sends them semi-down.

 

[Viny]

sheilded Dair *> Dtilt (hit or sheild poke)

 

[Denzi]

sheilded Dair *> Dtilt (hit or sheild poke)

Use sparingly.

 

[§witch]

Dtilt -> CG = inescapable.

Nope

Suprise the opponent.

As can fair, doesn't mean it's worth using.

Shield poke.

Only at the very tip; have fun perfectly spacing a move that's not really worth using.

It's only application is after a jab cancel, but really, it's not a good move.

 

[Fluke]

Switch is right.

This has been discussed before, and not many uses came up.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192889

 

[Denzi]

Nope

Really? Whoops.

(as you may have figured out, I don't use it much myself.)

 

[§witch]

Switch is right.

This has been discussed before, and not many uses came up.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192889

I really miss B-mon, he was such a cool guy

 

[Fluke]

I really miss B-mon, he was such a cool guy

Yeah where'd he go?

[insert subtle notes for mod to pin my guide, and notify him to pin my enouchout's guide. We have been waiting for a mod to figure out to do that himself....(enouchout's has more priority)]

On topic.
I personally, rarely use this move, I find uptilt has nearly as good a range as it (being small), and much better to string to follow up with an aerial.

Dtilt popping them forward usually allows for one real aerial.....FAIR. Shine isn't worth it
(Yeah I like putting the shine in my post whenever possible)

 

[thexsunrosered]

i've tested, on a good amount of characters, dtilt > sh dair near the edge of final destination (any stage really >.>) and its almost always a guarenteed spike before 23%

 

[Kitamerby]

Scream "FALCO used TAIL WHIP!" while you do it.

 

[Kasper!]

Dtilt is good for

1) sets up for spikes

2) good for pusing people away who love to sheild grab

 

[superglucose]

The only time I've used it is when I remember that I have one. I think my opponent was around 180 and it KOd him, as it was as fresh as it could possibly be.

Other than that, Falco has such amazing f and u tilts, I forget about the dtilt.

 

[Denzi]

Scream "FALCO used TAIL WHIP!" while you do it.

This has just replaced all my other tilts

 

[towelie892]

Scream "FALCO used TAIL WHIP!" while you do it.

Sig please? And do you mind if I edit it so it makes sense out of context?

 

[Pr0phetic]

Dtilt is good for

1) sets up for spikes

2) good for pusing people away who love to sheild grab

Or shield to long in general. I love using DTilt to punish rolelrs, and a simple mixup to setup for a Bair.

 

[§witch]

Alright, to clear up some misconceptions:
A. Dtilt is not a sheild poke/safe on sheild.
B. It's doesn't set up perfectly for a spike.
C. It does not lead into a grab.

It's a decent mix-up, but not a very good move.

 

[XxBlackxX]

Alright, to clear up some misconceptions:
A. Dtilt is not a sheild poke/safe on sheild.
B. It's doesn't set up perfectly for a spike.
C. It does not lead into a grab.

It's a decent mix-up, but not a very good move.

yea this is pretty much it.
it can lead into dairs or grabs if your opponent DI's incorrectly, or maybe at lower percents (?) but it doesn't guarantee a "combo".

 

[Denzi]

it can lead into dairs or grabs if your opponent DI's incorrectly, or maybe at lower percents (?) but it doesn't guarantee a "combo".

Like pretty much any other move in this game

But yeah, it's summed up rather well by §witch.

 

[donferd_donster]

I use the D-tilt to set up combos. D-tilt>F-air or D-tilt>N-air then to a drill kick or F-air again. Its really a move that is shunned upon. Its a great combo setter upper lol.

 

[Denzi]

^ But it's hard to actually land a hit with it.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

D-tilt is a situational move. and the situations to use it is

1. your opponent is shielding, there shield is small, and your too far away to grab them. dtilt
2. you can laserlock them on luigis mansion following a dtilt (theres a thread for this)

 

[mongoosedog927]

I use it to shield poke. Jab cancel to dair is useful for me as well

 

[Denzi]

I use it to shield poke. Jab cancel to dair is useful for me as well

It doesn't shield poke as well as everyone seems to think. And you did mean dtilt, right?

 

[Fluke]

Also works well when you're on the ledge and want to hit someone on it (or about to grab it), due to it's low hitbox.

 

[Denzi]

Also works well when you're on the ledge and want to hit someone on it (or about to grab it), due to it's low hitbox.

Does anyone even stay on the ledge long enough to get hit with it though?

 

[Fluke]

Does anyone even stay on the ledge long enough to get hit with it though?

Or when they are just about to grab it.

 

[pure_awesome]

I made a makeshift Pillar once with Dtilt and Dair...

Good stuff. Viable? Hell no. But cool at the time.

Or when they are just about to grab it.

No way... you can't hit people with Dtilt before they snap to the ledge... right?

 

[8AngeL8]

Didn't read the whole thread. The only time I use it is first hit of jab into a crouch canceled Dtilt in order to juggle them.