Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

[Christopher Rodriguez]

I mean, I've actually played it quite a few times on both ends, but You'd be surprised what matches you find if you actually look

XD

I've seen it, though its not as nice as your video (no homo) seeing as its a bit old.

although i do admit i've never seen mofo's ness, only heard about it. sick player

 

[eighteenspikes]

I think range is an issue - I believe walk->fsmash can be di'ed out of at %'s that wd->fsmash can't. haven't spent much time with walksmashing but IMO it's much easier to do out of a wavedash.

 

[toasty]

scrolled back a bit and saw discussion bout the YS cloud, thought I'd shed a tiny bit more light...it comes out on 5 and goes in at 0.

so if you wanna get super cereal technical about it, probably comes out at x:x4:59 or whatever
but yeah like dogy mentioned when it's "even" meaning @ :05, :25, :45, it's on the left, and when it's odd (:15, :35, :55) it's on the right


also: reverse bair-uair is definitely nice...never thought of that

 

[TemPesT-]

is that you spikes? i know you play blue doc lol, very nice combo.

 

[Shroomed]

would uthrow, wavedash BEHIND the spacie, and forward smash work?

i think ima go test that

 

[eighteenspikes]

do you mean if they dont DI it?? I think they can jump out then at higher %'s. prob better off utilting to fair or some crazy **** like that. but if they DI behind you then hell yeah you can track that **** with a wd. smash that *****

yes tempset thats me

 

[Dogysamich]

So get this. I was in columbus playin melee today.

Greatest. Combo. Ever.

Doc+Samus.

Broke a guy's shield. I cape him 4x. Samus (played by none other than the Alpha Gundam) hops behind me with a full charge blast. I grab. Alpha shoots. I throw the guy up. We win.

so amazing.

And on that note, Im about to play some bomberman with alpha.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

If it's not Atomic Bomberman Dogy, I don't wanna hear about it.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Dogysamich]

Well good thing I asked for your opinion smooth.

But na, hopefully ima get a crapton of melee in 2morrow with atleast alpha. If not, more people.

I played a crapton of kirby today.

Broke a shield with kirby today (I broke 3 shields today total. lol)

 

[InterimOfZeal]

I broke a shield today with Zelda's upb.

In Brawl.

Get 1upped, dogy.

 

[anthony000]

So is there really nothing to do against Falcon's nair except
a. run
b. utilt in time
c. shield and hope they miss the L cancel>grab
?

 

[isthattim?]

you can always switch to light shield late or tilt your shield to try and make them miss the l-cancel

 

[Oracle]

Try the cape if you can pull it off; it'll mess them up

 

[Dogysamich]

I broke a shield today with Zelda's upb.

In Brawl.

Get 1upped, dogy.

Pfft. It's brawl. Shields break all the time in that game.

That's not hard to do. XD

So is there really nothing to do against Falcon's nair except
a. run
b. utilt in time
c. shield and hope they miss the L cancel>grab
?

You could also upsmash, n.air, u.air, f.smash.

 

[KirbyKaze]

F-smash as an offensive move.

It does 30 damage.

...

Wait.

 

[anthony000]

Thank you all for the help.

 

[Dogysamich]

The saga continues. Wu-tang. Wu-tang.

__

So I feel a lil motivated to workstart on that matchup guide again.

Lets see if I can break the trend.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

So guize, I found a use for Doc's down-b. It's actually good, too! I'll post more about it later.

Also, I'm thinking about posting some segments from my notes on Doc. Yes/No?

So is there really nothing to do against Falcon's nair except
a. run
b. utilt in time
c. shield and hope they miss the L cancel>grab
?

Already addressed, but utilt/usmash/fsmash are all brilliant. I have the least success with usmash. CC dmash works at low percents.

Pfft. It's brawl. Shields break all the time in that game.

That's not hard to do. XD

You could also upsmash, n.air, u.air, f.smash.

They do? I thought the shields regenerated faster, took less damage, and were generally better aside from lightshielding and power shielding. You just jealous.

 

[Vulcan55]

Running away from Nairs is even better than anything else.

 

[otg]

Running away from Nairs is even better than anything else.

Give this man a medal

 

[KirbyKaze]

So I feel a lil motivated to workstart on that matchup guide again.

Good one, Dogy

 

[Dogysamich]

Well, I started on the guide, typed 2 pros for fox, and stopped.

I was like "bleh" once again. XD I MADE PROGRESS THOUGH.

____

Just been sitting around workin on s**t whenever I play this. Came up with some hilarious *** practice ideas.

Played n64 last week (gunna get to play him again), got to play alpha and a few other people over last weekend. (JX GOT HIS SHIELD BROKE 3X LOL IM STILL LAUGHING OVER THAT)

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uuuuuum Doc forums.

Yeah.

Waiting for HMW to upload the next exciting episode of SHROOMED BALL Z!!

 

[otg]

*snoooooooooooooooore*

 

[Dogysamich]

Dude come on. Shroomed Ball Z has the hero shroomed wavedashing out of shield as he fells foes left and right!

It's so amazing!

More amazing than reading the doc forums right now. lol

 

[Shroomed]

this is like THE LONGEST brandon has ever taken to upload vids

i want my winners and losers finals up

i need to see why i lost to zhu!!!

u guys r gonna laugh whenever i play someone on their CP

 

[otg]

Dude come on. Shroomed Ball Z has the hero shroomed wavedashing out of shield as he fells foes left and right!

It's so amazing!

More amazing than reading the doc forums right now. lol

The Shroomed Ball Z show is super sexy, you were taking names that day. I'm yawning at how boring/uninteresting the Doc boards are currently.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Shroomed Ball Z isn't as good as Zhulander.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

Blazblue is tight, guize.

 

[Dogysamich]

I still have to go somewhere and try it. i was supposed to try a leaked version last week and an arcade cab months ago, but never did.

I still hold to this day that the only character that looks remotely interesting to me is Rachael. Zone zone zone RUN!

And then that burst system? --shakes head--

 

[InterimOfZeal]

The burst system both breaks my heart and fills it.

See, I play Carl. He has a throw loop that doesn't prorate much (only 1/2 standard proration), and it involves one of his most damaging moves, too. If they burst, the loop continues with them taking extra damage. If they throw break? I just hafta alter the loop slightly and they go into it again. If they do nothing? They're dead.

Ragna can get out by doing an aerial upper and RCing. That's the only escape I know of right now.

But it's only day 3, so I don't have the loop down just yet. D:

Watching Arakune is like watching marvel. Superjump>cloud>mix-up>throw ****>magneto infinite.

Well, except the last part. D:

But yeah, BB is pretty tight, guize. Lotsa new stuff is introduced to the fighting game community in this game.

 

[isthattim?]

BB hasn't got a release date here yet
am considering moving

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I have BB, Dogy.

I have to agree with I-Oh-Z. It's an amazing game.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Strong Badam]

blazblue is like, so good.
i might actually buy fight sticks.

 

[Dogysamich]

arcade stick, lol.

I need to actually take mine out and continuously practice with it. I never feel obligated to because I live in GA and East Point plays on pad (one of the major crews, arguably the best 3-d fighter crew in the nation).

Stick is so good though. Fixes soooooo many input errors when you get used to it, and then stick becomes universal (instead of having to go from ps pad to -ew- 360 pad)

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-Dogy Blog...y?- XD

On a more important note. Went over to n64's house again yesterday. Played alot of smash. **** was fun.

Im really starting to hate the pika matchup. Everybody says Pika is a low-tier fox, but I think he's got some sheik in him with that **** u.air. Its just too **** good.

For anybody who cares about some random pika pointers.

1) You never, ever have a **** reason to be above pika, ever. That's just asking to get tail spiked or combo'd to death.

2) As long as pika times it right, NOTHING YOU DO FROM THE AIR IS GOING TO BEAT HIM BELOW YOu. Your dair cant beat his u.air/u.tilt/u.smash, neither cant your nair. Just dont waste the time fighting it.

And man, I always thought upsmash -> thunder was like, a scrub tactic that really never worked? OH BOY YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT **** IS GOOD. :|

Pika's recovery is still all sorts of dumb (good and bad).

But enough pika rant. I'll save it for if somebody actually wants it.

On another note, I gotta go watch hmw and shroomed **** some spacies again. I blow at gimping, but I think I know what im doing wrong.

FML.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

I miss the dogy blogy!

Anyone know how to get a gamebridge capture card to work on a vista laptop? I have the tape, I have the capture card, I have the space. Now I just need to actually capture these matches. D:

I have BB, Dogy.

I have to agree with I-Oh-Z. It's an amazing game.

Smooth Criminal

ps3 or 360?

blazblue is like, so good.
i might actually buy fight sticks.

SEE ABOVE!

 

[Shroomed]

dazzles > capture cards

 

[Desh]

good ish shroomed. watching yer sets in wf now.

 

[anthony000]

That's why Mute City is the ish. Dogy's comment on youtube sums it up perfectly as well.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

dazzles > capture cards

But I doesn't has money for dazzle. D:

Plus, is still a capture card, non?

 

[Shroomed]

iono if dazzle counts as capture card

that's wut me and HMW use to record

ima start banning yoshi's vs spacies....