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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
- Thread starter otg
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All taunts are "feasible length" if you taunt cancel.
What now?
What now?
Christopher Rodriguez
The illest Project M Bowser
I don't like him at all :/
All he has over doc imo, is his fsmash.. which has already been discussed
But I'm going to leave it at that, I don't want to start anything. Its just usually when mario is mentioned in tournament play its followed by a "LOL" Whereas some people consider doc high tier sometimes or at least tournament viable.
There's a mario player in my crew that's just about equal to me and he admits doc is easier to win with.
And at this point, i will go ahead and point out that between the 2, mario normally places higher in the grand scheme of things through way of greenmario and dj nintendo.
Doublejoint: No problem.
I never liked Mario in Melee. The thought of playing as him just makes me feel dirty. I'm too used to bair gimps, and dunks, and the REVERSE SEX KICK! It's also because my Mario is absolutely, inexcusably bad. No details on that one. Just trust me.
Deff: Waiting for word from Vex about team mate status.
Dogy: To taunt cancel (With doc in this game, with everyone in smash 64) run toward an edge and taunt. If your momentum carries you to the edge of the stage when that the wobbly standing animation starts, the taunt will cancel.
Edit: (I edit too much)
OTG: Thanks for the clarification on the B+Up save thing.
I never liked Mario in Melee. The thought of playing as him just makes me feel dirty. I'm too used to bair gimps, and dunks, and the REVERSE SEX KICK! It's also because my Mario is absolutely, inexcusably bad. No details on that one. Just trust me.
Deff: Waiting for word from Vex about team mate status.
Dogy: To taunt cancel (With doc in this game, with everyone in smash 64) run toward an edge and taunt. If your momentum carries you to the edge of the stage when that the wobbly standing animation starts, the taunt will cancel.
Edit: (I edit too much)
OTG: Thanks for the clarification on the B+Up save thing.
doublejoint
Smash Cadet
i find the backwards wd>taunt cancel a lot sexier
but its really inconsistent, at least for me
you have to be perfect distance from the ledge to get the pill to be obvious; and extremely perfect wavedash moves so **** fast nothing comes out at all, unless you're a lot farther away, which is a bad idea because missing it leaves you very vulnerable to the supposedly respawning opponent
on this note, when i was practicing this i was really warmed up in perfect wavedashing, and i started to realize frame perfect you can wavedash holding straight horizontal; for real?
(sorry about the double post; wasn't thinking D: )
but its really inconsistent, at least for me
you have to be perfect distance from the ledge to get the pill to be obvious; and extremely perfect wavedash moves so **** fast nothing comes out at all, unless you're a lot farther away, which is a bad idea because missing it leaves you very vulnerable to the supposedly respawning opponent
on this note, when i was practicing this i was really warmed up in perfect wavedashing, and i started to realize frame perfect you can wavedash holding straight horizontal; for real?
(sorry about the double post; wasn't thinking D: )
No, you cant perfect wavedash. You can perfect waveland, but not perfect wavedash.
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Today has been pretty ****in hilarious. I think im almost back into the "gaming spirit" of my high school days.
I think i spend like, the whole entire day playing something.
Played some RE5, then played some Melty Blood, 3s, Super Turbo, and POCKET FIGHTERS (YAYHUZZ) online.
2morrow I have to go practice some stuff. Gotta gear up IC4 next week. I'm actually under the assumption melee wont happen, but im makin it a mission to go **** somebody up in GGAC.
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*Looks at avatar*
and the more I look at that pic, the more jacked up it becomes.
Looks nothing like Estelle, but I love having a matching sig/avatar.
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Today has been pretty ****in hilarious. I think im almost back into the "gaming spirit" of my high school days.
I think i spend like, the whole entire day playing something.
Played some RE5, then played some Melty Blood, 3s, Super Turbo, and POCKET FIGHTERS (YAYHUZZ) online.
2morrow I have to go practice some stuff. Gotta gear up IC4 next week. I'm actually under the assumption melee wont happen, but im makin it a mission to go **** somebody up in GGAC.
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*Looks at avatar*
and the more I look at that pic, the more jacked up it becomes.
Looks nothing like Estelle, but I love having a matching sig/avatar.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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You can perfect wavedash =P It's just not straight horizontal.
doublejoint
Smash Cadet
well i don't know what i was doing then
on a side note, ive managed to waveland taunt cancel over three platforms in a row :D
it only took like, two hours
on a side note, ive managed to waveland taunt cancel over three platforms in a row :D
it only took like, two hours
Shroomed
Smash Master
i like mario
at first eggz was my favorite mario, now it's the Cape
he should play again
is DJ Nintendo's mario good?
i wanna play his bowser with my mario
at first eggz was my favorite mario, now it's the Cape
he should play again
is DJ Nintendo's mario good?
i wanna play his bowser with my mario
DJN's any thing is good, but the thing you have to realize when you watch/play him is that it's all about the mental.
Like, watching any of his vids really do no justice unless you're real good at thinking. Even I get kinda turned off when I watch some of his stuff. He does stuff like a ****ton of rolling. (I equate DJN's rolling to Drephen's spotdodging.) But DJN is just ridiculously good at reading people, so he knows how to do stuff like that and make it work.
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And the cape? He's actually over here in GA right now. I was supposed to play him a few weeks ago but he (and the other people that were playing) never got ahold of me till the day before a tourney.
Like, watching any of his vids really do no justice unless you're real good at thinking. Even I get kinda turned off when I watch some of his stuff. He does stuff like a ****ton of rolling. (I equate DJN's rolling to Drephen's spotdodging.) But DJN is just ridiculously good at reading people, so he knows how to do stuff like that and make it work.
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And the cape? He's actually over here in GA right now. I was supposed to play him a few weeks ago but he (and the other people that were playing) never got ahold of me till the day before a tourney.
Christopher Rodriguez
The illest Project M Bowser
DJN is the man, I completely agree with all your points
I play him all the time since we both live in tristate :] its ****. He beat me in doc dittos pretty hardcore before just by taking it steady.
I play him all the time since we both live in tristate :] its ****. He beat me in doc dittos pretty hardcore before just by taking it steady.
metashinryu
Smash Ace
yo i think i found a bug/glitch whatever,just dash and press R/L and a almost at the same time to dashgrab and doc will do the waahaaa sound from a dash attack XD
metashinryu
Smash Ace
i dashed and pressed r then a almost at the same time
Christopher Rodriguez
The illest Project M Bowser
Yeah that's already known. It has no real purpose really besides the sound lol
metashinryu
Smash Ace
thats why i hate being new i figure out already known things @_@
Desh
Smash Ace
nah boost grabbing is broken with sheik.
Shroomed
Smash Master
doc's/mario's stickywalk looks pretty cool
sheik's is ****in awesome
sheik's is ****in awesome
Christopher Rodriguez
The illest Project M Bowser
Oh I thought you meant doc only xD
In that case yeah
In that case yeah
boost/lunge grab for characters with a boost with their dash attack (sheik)
grunt grab with characters who make a sound with their dash (marios)
Boost grab is the term that stuck for it, since it's the only one that's really useful.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Why is it always Sheik? Why doesn't Fox's boost grab ever get any love?
Cause I can see Sheik's. XD
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
is a stickywalk just a slow dd? if it is then sorry dk's is the best one
I did a forum search for Sticky walk, and it seems Vulcan55 is right. Stickywalking is moonwalk to forward dash at a certain point.
As for WD backwards > Forwards dash... I don't know if it causes stickywalking, but I used to do that all the time after I got KOs. (Except for me it was more like WD >dash WD >dash etc. etc. You wavedash longer than you dash, so you move backwards) It's pretty fun, and got me pretty good at wavedashing, I think. I wonder if there's a name for that...
On a complete side note: For the first time in my 2ish years of maining Doc, a PTP I tried in a match (a friendly) actually saved me a stock. I'm still not brave enough to try it in tournament, since when I get into position to twitch tap I usually screw up the direction, and cape and then I hammer B and my concentration gets all messed up when I'm falling and throwing pills instead of PTPing. But meh, I did it once. Now I need more practice.
As for WD backwards > Forwards dash... I don't know if it causes stickywalking, but I used to do that all the time after I got KOs. (Except for me it was more like WD >dash WD >dash etc. etc. You wavedash longer than you dash, so you move backwards) It's pretty fun, and got me pretty good at wavedashing, I think. I wonder if there's a name for that...
On a complete side note: For the first time in my 2ish years of maining Doc, a PTP I tried in a match (a friendly) actually saved me a stock. I'm still not brave enough to try it in tournament, since when I get into position to twitch tap I usually screw up the direction, and cape and then I hammer B and my concentration gets all messed up when I'm falling and throwing pills instead of PTPing. But meh, I did it once. Now I need more practice.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Fox's gives him four times more range. Sheik's only gives her three.
Eggz
Smash Hero
metashinryu
Smash Ace
and captains? that sh¡t is worth to use XD
but the reason shiek's is so hyped is both dash grab and standing grab come out at the same time, so there is no draw back to dash canceled grabs unlike other people whose running grabs have a better range, but comes out slightly later.
Eggz wtf you doin in here? Doc isnt uBer technical!
Go make more mixes!
Go make more mixes!
Desh
Smash Ace
lol eggz's mixes are ****ing sick.
boss was showin them to me in january D:
egggzzz im ****** u on msn until you send me links today o_o
sticky walk is funneh x3
BGJKWDGHFUKWEDF
SCHOOOL >=[
boss was showin them to me in january D:
egggzzz im ****** u on msn until you send me links today o_o
sticky walk is funneh x3
BGJKWDGHFUKWEDF
SCHOOOL >=[
Shroomed
Smash Master
im not a fan of DJN
3 fsmashes in a row
in the set vs scar, like ALL he did was full jump dair to uair lol
but i guess it kept working on scar for some reason, all scar had to do wuz space a nair and gg for the dair
3 fsmashes in a row; that's him making a read that people are trying to punish the f.smash (which, unless you're like, right there and powershield, it's safe).
I watched him at fast1 do double f.smash to EVERYBODY IN OUR POOL. I was the only person who didnt get hit with double. No, I was smart enough to wait for that second one.....
.... i sure as **** didnt think a 3rd one was coming. XD
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FH D.air works. You cant spam it but it works. It works because to beat it you have to be on the same level as mario (or doc) to stop it. It's the same concept as every other character doing FH aerials, it's just there arent that many good docs or marios to note that kinda thing.
It's the same thing as fox coming in with a FH d.air. You cant jump up and beat him, you have to already be above him or come from the same level (read: you cant SH and beat it).
Brickwall tactics.
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That's exactly what I mean about DJN, unless you know what he's trying to do, he really looks terrible (no offense). But in all actuallity he's actually so smart it's ridiculous. He doesnt play like everybody else, he doesnt even try. That's not how he works.
I watched him at fast1 do double f.smash to EVERYBODY IN OUR POOL. I was the only person who didnt get hit with double. No, I was smart enough to wait for that second one.....
.... i sure as **** didnt think a 3rd one was coming. XD
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FH D.air works. You cant spam it but it works. It works because to beat it you have to be on the same level as mario (or doc) to stop it. It's the same concept as every other character doing FH aerials, it's just there arent that many good docs or marios to note that kinda thing.
It's the same thing as fox coming in with a FH d.air. You cant jump up and beat him, you have to already be above him or come from the same level (read: you cant SH and beat it).
Brickwall tactics.
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That's exactly what I mean about DJN, unless you know what he's trying to do, he really looks terrible (no offense). But in all actuallity he's actually so smart it's ridiculous. He doesnt play like everybody else, he doesnt even try. That's not how he works.
anthony000
Smash Journeyman
Sooooo... Luigi is hard to combo. What do I do?
Treat him like jiggs and dont combo him. (Read: Dont put forth too much effort for it)
he's really not hard to combo; the problem is if you try to cheat him and he calls you, not only do you get your combo interrupted, more-often-than-not you actually get punished by his combo.
he's really not hard to combo; the problem is if you try to cheat him and he calls you, not only do you get your combo interrupted, more-often-than-not you actually get punished by his combo.
HomeMadeWaffles
Smash Lord
green mario is where its at!