Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

[Strong Badam]

Dogysamich: Pretty much DK can't use his redonkeykong horizontal recovery well and gets KO'd sooner than he wants, and Roy doesn't lose anything because there's no point at which he'd outright die by the blastlines but still be able to recover.
Yoshi's Story isn't good because it's easy to get people offstage, it's good because of the platform placing and the close blastlines.

interim i'm going to have to call friendly johns on the doc dittos. neither of us were taking those matches seriously and you know it haha.

money match me jona

 

[InterimOfZeal]

Call whatever johns you want, lol.

 

[otg]

You both probably suck

 

[P.C. Jona]

lets see

montana and colorado...

hmm.....

 

[otg]

Where the **** did you get montana from?

 

[P.C. Jona]

the hell does MO stand for

moissouri?

is that any better?

lol

 

[Strong Badam]

missouri is where darkrain hailed from.
don't disrespect

 

[P.C. Jona]

so your saying because darkrain is from the middle of nowhere

i cant say the middle of nowhere is trash

lol

missouri sucks

tri-state all day

 

[Shroomed]

WC is way better than tri-state or EC =)

 

[P.C. Jona]

nah .

otg is better then you son!

wait till rom3

hes taking 2nd

because im taking 1st

 

[TemPesT-]

Midwest, and more specifically, Minnesota is where the great Aarosmashgod came from, who beat scar, from the east coast, who now currently hails in the WC, so arguably Midwest ***** all

 

[Shroomed]

i jus beat scar today =)

 

[P.C. Jona]

i jus beat scar today =)

yo are u comin to rom3?

i wanna play your doc with my falcon

 

[Shroomed]

i gotta see wut my financial situation is like cuz ima b movin out in like 1 or 2 months for college so i mite b broke as FUUUUU

but if i go im down for like $10-$20 MM

 

[otg]

I dont think the GSG results say anything about WC > EC, it might say something about all of WC > 3 of NY's players (two of which are mediocre as ****) but w'e.

 

[Ocean]

so we go from two players whining about they can **** eachother, to missouri sucking, to WC vs EC?

good **** doc boards.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

Whining?

Hey, ocean

Eat a ****

:D

Also, NY sucks. When's the last time anyone from there did anything? It's like CO, only with less mountains and more stabbing people while they go out for a run.

EDIT: I like making friends this way.

 

[Shroomed]

lol, i wasnt even goin off the GSG results....i wuz jus sayin that

but the one good NY player that did come wins like all the tournies out there and he lost to darrell and replicate

darrell's 11th in norcal and replicate isnt even ranked LOL

but darrell is **** and so is joe =)

he agrees that WC > EC btw

 

[Ocean]

there needs to be a big EC vs WC crew battle again.

 

[Shroomed]

there needs to be a big EC vs WC crew battle again.

check the new sig dawg =)

da proof is in da pudding!

 

[Ocean]

check the new sig dawg =)

da proof is in da pudding!

dwammmm

 

[SubZero Master]

what do you guys think about the mario match up? I've played a bunch with my good friend scorp but he always beats me! right now I just tend to camp with my pills but clearly that's not working. Advice?

 

[Vulcan55]

haha, oh wow.

 

[eighteenspikes]

what do you guys think about the mario match up? I've played a bunch with my good friend scorp but he always beats me! right now I just tend to camp with my pills but clearly that's not working. Advice?

just learn luigi, its a hard counter. also dont namedrop in troll posts and you might fool some people. go get em tiger

 

[otg]

doc is terrible, wtf were any of us ever thinkin

 

[HiIH]

I hear when dtilt crits, it one shots every character in the game.

 

[TemPesT-]

Subzero is my favorite doc

 

[Dogysamich]

yeah, just a quick reminder for like, the one person in the world who might care.

I'm goin to a tourney 2morrow, gunna be doing tweets again. Highly doubt there's going to be melee there cause well, that's how things go, but if there is, that gets top priority in tweets.

 

[Strong Badam]

was at a tourney last night. got 2-0'd twice, but it's ok. used 100% doc. i found that kongo jungle 64 was my most successful counterpick. as usual with counterpicks, they need to be based mostly around why you lost last time, as well as player preference, so KJ64 won't work for everyone, but it worked for me.
KJ 64 has the advantages of accelerated pills, less platform **** from more mobile chars like Falcon/Fox/Marth/Sheik, and yet an uneven terrain so he doesn't get pwned by lasers and general superiority. I also did this to a Falco: bair -> off stage bair -> bair, cape, ptp 'nado, upb into the barrel recovery.

also did some lol against a falcon: uthrow usmash -> grab -> uthrow usmash fair. LOOLLL

 

[ranmaru]

I'm a doc that likes to jump. : [ Even if fighting a marth. GAH I need to shake that inshakable habit of jumping around.

 

[condemned_soul]

what do you guys think about the mario match up? I've played a bunch with my good friend scorp but he always beats me! right now I just tend to camp with my pills but clearly that's not working. Advice?

IMO when playing against mario, you have to keep him under pressure. add in more Fairs, pills, and grabs. when mario is on the ledge you need to concentrate on Bairs and Nairs. Only charge a Fsmash if you notice a habit of rolling towards you when the tech from a fall. any other time can leave you open to deadly attacks or combos. Use out of shield options wisely because once mario does a SHFFL move and you block, mario will most likely attack again. if he runs, give him some pills and he will be back. if you The more space you give mario, the better chance he has at winning.

secret: during the match there will be a move that mario would rather avoid. when you find out what that move is, provoke them and they will go on the defense which is almost a whole new ball game.

 

[eighteenspikes]

the secret is dtilt

use dtilt

 

[KirbyKaze]

shut up 18spikes

d-tilt blows

 

[TemPesT-]

ya spikes. it's get up from ledge, then dtilt.

 

[KirbyKaze]

i'm partial to b-throw if my opponent is going to be stupid in my face near the edge

 

[TemPesT-]

you can tell that you never play doc. it's all bout that dtilt.

 

[otg]

good **** tempest

 

[Oracle]

It can even stage spike.

KK's just hating because his character's d tilt is awful.

 

[TemPesT-]

Lol @ shiek having a bad tilt... wait... move* not tilt.

 

[Dogysamich]

Sheik, has one of the worst moves in the history of gaming.

Down+b.

I want you to tell me what other move in ANY OTHER GAME drops you from top 5 to low tier.