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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Otoad64

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Yoshi in general gets to tend the short end of the stick of the original 8.

His series is the only one without an Assist Trophy for example, and in Smash 4 he was the only one of the original 8 that wasn't revealed at E3's Smash reveal, instead having to wait until April's Direct to see him.
not to mention he's the only one of the og 8 to be all alone when it comes to characters from the same series
 

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Yoshi's in an odd place of his series being far more closely tied to Mario than Wario or DK. While it emphasizes different elements in it, there's so much crossover its easy to lose track of where one ends and the other begins.

On paper Kamek becoming a fighter would essentially be the main villain of Yoshi being highlighted in Smash, but much of the audience is just going to think a higher ranked Mario mook just got a spot.
 
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not to mention he's the only one of the og 8 to be all alone when it comes to characters from the same series
That's just a consequence of Not having much material for another character from his Franchise

The only ones I can think of are Kamek and Poochie, and both are vastly Out Prioritized by 100's of characters, especially Poochie

On the bright side, since Yoshi does commonly appear in the Mario series of games from time to time, he's only like Semi-Alone
 

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which woman is stronger than Chun-li?
any JRPG party member.
I genuinely believe that if Sakurai made that joke in the Brawl days then people would have gone absolutely ape** at Rosalina exposing her scandalously exposed, painted fingernails, which would naturally get every person watching do the Tex Avery wolf whistle because no woman in Smash had exposed hands or some **
Naked shulk would be completely okay by their standards though.
 
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As far as women showing skin in Smash, I had always assumed the shorts and top that Zero Suit Samus in two of her alts was about as far as the game could take. If Mythra and Pyra have/had color appropriate versions of that as their swimsuits, I'd assume such attire could get in easily.
 
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About CGI trailers, I'm suprised that Yoshi is the only member of the Original 8 to not appear in one.
The punishment for tax evasion is sometimes... unorthodox. :4pacman:

Yoshi's in an odd place of his series being far more closely tied to Mario than Wario or DK. While it emphasizes different elements in it, there's so much crossover its easy to lose track of where one ends and the other begins.

On paper Kamek becoming a fighter would essentially be the main villain of Yoshi being highlighted in Smash, but much of the audience is just going to think a higher ranked Mario mook just got a spot.
It doesn't help that Nintendo had Bowser literally hijack Yoshi's New Island:



It stuff like that that makes me question how much Nintendo allows the Yoshi series (plus its characters like Kamek) to stand out from Mario aside from the gimmick of the week.
 

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No? There's also Punch-Out!!, Ice Climber, Game & Watch, Duck Hunt, Wii Fit, Final Fantasy and obviously all the new DLC series that don't get ATs either.
Okay, so for series that don't have Assist Trophies (DLC included), who would you like to see? For me:
  • :ultyoshi:: Kamek
  • :ultpikachu:: Pokemon Ranger
  • :ulticeclimbers:: Polar Bear
  • :ultgnw:: Manhole
  • :ultwiifittrainer:: Wii Balance Board
  • :ultlittlemac:: Bald Bull
  • :ultcloud:: Tifa
  • :ultjoker:: Futaba Sakura
  • :ulthero:: Jessica Albert
  • :ultbanjokazooie:: Mumbo Jumbo
  • :ult_terry:: Nakoruru
  • :ultsteve:: Creeper
  • :ultpyra:: Zeke & Pandoria
 

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For what it's worth, I hope the upcoming DLC drop will come with a proper balance patch and online improvements too, but I doubt that's going to happen.
 

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As far as women showing skin in Smash, I had always assumed the shorts and top that Zero Suit Samus in two of her alts was about as far as the game could take. If Mythra and Pyra have/had color appropriate versions of that as their swimsuits, I'd have little doubt such attire could get in.
They're a little different, actually. On one hand, their stomach's covered, but on the other, there's less coverage on the legs.
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So yeah. As to if they're safer or riskier than the ZSS ending alts, that's up to interpretation.
 

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Okay, so for series that don't have Assist Trophies (DLC included), who would you like to see? For me:
  • :ultyoshi:: Kamek
  • :ultpikachu:: Pokemon Ranger
  • :ulticeclimbers:: Polar Bear
  • :ultgnw:: Manhole
  • :ultwiifittrainer:: Wii Balance Board
  • :ultlittlemac:: Bald Bull
  • :ultcloud:: Tifa
  • :ultjoker:: Futaba Sakura
  • :ulthero:: Jessica Albert
  • :ultbanjokazooie:: Mumbo Jumbo
  • :ult_terry:: Nakoruru
  • :ultsteve:: Creeper
  • :ultpyra:: Zeke & Pandoria
Pokemon is cheating because it has a whole ass item that functions similarly and Xenoblade 2 is part of Xenoblade but I get ya

Yoshi - Poochy
Ice Climbers - Polar Bear
Game and Watch - Octopus
Wii Fit - Balance Board
Punch Out - Mr. Sandman
Final Fantasy 7 - Vincent
Persona 5 - Futaba
Dragon Quest - Dragonlord
Banjo - Mumbo
Fatal Fury/KOF - Rugal
Minecraft - Wither
 
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Okay, so for series that don't have Assist Trophies (DLC included), who would you like to see? For me:
  • :ultyoshi:: Kamek
  • :ultpikachu:: Pokemon Ranger
  • :ulticeclimbers:: Polar Bear
  • :ultgnw:: Manhole
  • :ultwiifittrainer:: Wii Balance Board
  • :ultlittlemac:: Bald Bull
  • :ultcloud:: Tifa
  • :ultjoker:: Futaba Sakura
  • :ulthero:: Jessica Albert
  • :ultbanjokazooie:: Mumbo Jumbo
  • :ult_terry:: Nakoruru
  • :ultsteve:: Creeper
  • :ultpyra:: Zeke & Pandoria
Yoshi: Poochy
Ice Climber: Condor
Wii Fit: Balance Board
Punch-Out: King Hippo
Final Fantasy: Fat Chocobo
Banjo: Gruntilda
Minecraft: Creeper
 

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I'm disappointed we still only have one Namco character as a fighter in Smash Bros. I'm mainly rooting for Chosen Undead, but I'll take any at this point.
We do a little trolling and call first party characters bamco characters since bamco helps a lot with the development of 90% of first party nintendo games
 

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I mean yeah he was in both Hero's and Sephiroth's trailer, but both trailers don't really have him in a much prominent role like Link was for Hero or Mario for Sephiroth.
Out of the 16 trailers Ultimate has had, only
Mario
Mega Man
Samus
Luigi
DK
Diddy
DeDeDe
Little Mac
Link
Marth
Meta Knight
Duck Hunt
Kirby
Captain Falcon
Cloud
have had prominent roles.

15 characters out of 63. MOST characters in the game haven't had a prominent role in a trailer.

Okay, so for series that don't have Assist Trophies (DLC included), who would you like to see?
Anyone that doesn't say King Hippo for Punch-Out needs to get Jesus.
 
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Of all the preexisting characters used in Smash trailers for Ultimate, there aren't any trailers that involve the Star Fox cast. It's crazy to think we've seen characters like Luigi, Captain Falcon, Duck Hunt, and Little Mac have a prominent role in a Smash trailer, and yet there isn't 1 that involves Fox.
I have no theory, but I think it’s a shame we haven’t had Wario pop up in one either. I think the CG would do wonders for him (and we’d get a lot of great reaction images out of it).
 

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Out of the 16 trailers Ultimate has had, only
Mario
Mega Man
Samus
Luigi
DK
Diddy
DeDeDe
Little Mac
Link
Marth
Meta Knight
Duck Hunt
Kirby
Captain Falcon
Cloud
have had prominent roles.

15 characters out of 63. MOST characters in the game haven't had a prominent role in a trailer.


Anyone that doesn't say King Hippo for Punch-Out needs to get Jesus.
Zero Suit and Dark Pit had a somewhat prominent presence in the Pyra/Mythra trailer, plus of course Shulk as well made a appearance at the end of the trailer.
The presents is this week so i was asking if theres any mii stuff floating around or any nintendo stuff in general
Doesn't sound like anything has come out. Were only a little more than two days away so I don't anything will leak before hand.
 

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I predict that Garchomp will be the next expected character for Smash due to Gen 4 remakes being announced.

New Game = Character for Smash
 

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I predict that Garchomp will be the next expected character for Smash due to Gen 4 remakes being announced.

New Game = Character for Smash
I think it's a bit too late for that.

Pokemon BDSP releases late 2021 and Pokemon Legends releases 2022, both timeframes means that the window of opportunity to promote a new character have long since gone.
 

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I predict that Garchomp will be the next expected character for Smash due to Gen 4 remakes being announced.

New Game = Character for Smash
Hey if we’re making remakes and remasters included in this like BD/SP then there is the Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection coming out so...

you know what that means.

He’s in
 
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