Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Truth the Ceomasterz33]

So kind of like this...thing

but hopefully less terrifying.

Has been cursed!

 

[Mushroomguy12]

So kind of like this...thing

but hopefully less terrifying.

Is there a way to remove images from my brain?

 

[Munchi]

So kind of like this...thing

but hopefully less terrifying.

Well

 

[Ivander]

So kind of like this...thing

but hopefully less terrifying.

Le sigh...All-Stars Transformed was a underrated classic.

That said, seeing Nights again reminds me of how Sumo wanted to do a Sega All-Stars Mecha Fighter where the characters fight against each other in Mechas based after their pilots and while fighting, the mechas would even lose parts of their bodies that players could pick up to attack with. Interesting concept.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The guy also made a V 2.0.

Because clearly the world didn't just need a V 1.0. Oh, and it has a laser that bursts balloons and burns stuff.

I want to see that, honestly.

 

[Munchi]

I want to see that, honestly.

You asked for it

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

For first point:
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for second point: it’s why I’m hoping we get a sci-fi aesthetic character in this pass, such as KOS-MOS or Elma.

....is that? oh come on.

Think it's just the 90's anime aesthetic (Though Ark of Napishtim was released in 2003). After a certain point, you can tell when the art style starts branching out.
Nothing stacks up to the original Adol, though
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I see Adol was friends with CV1 Instruction Manual Simon:

Don't you just love Early Installment Weirdness?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

You asked for it

And am glad to have done so

 

[Rie Sonomura]

....is that? oh come on.

I see Adol was friends with CV1 Instruction Manual Simon:

Don't you just love Early Installment Weirdness?

...your reaction meme has an ifunny.co watermark. you played yourself.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

...your reaction meme has an ifunny.co watermark. you played yourself.

I pretty sure the poster putted it there intentionally, anyway.

 

[epicmartin7]

So... I did some more math stuffs! Today, I decided to take a look at what possible background color the next fighter might have.
And these are the possible colors I got, minimally extended!

I only say minimally, because technically, there are 27 possible colors mathematically, but I just chose the first three because it'd take too much time today. So maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

If anybody is curious on how I did it, let me know, and I can post a link to the desmos page I used!

Also, do note, please do not take this seriously. This is just math at the end of the day and holds no weight. I just personally thought it'd be fun to do.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So... I did some more math stuffs! Today, I decided to take a look at what possible background color the next fighter might have.
And these are the possible colors I got, minimally extended!

I only say minimally, because technically, there are 27 possible colors mathematically, but I just chose the first three because it'd take too much time today. So maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

If anybody is curious on how I did it, let me know, and I can post a link to the desmos page I used!

Also, do note, please do not take this seriously. This is just math at the end of the day and holds no weight. I just personally thought it'd be fun to do.

on a serious note i don't think we've had a violet bg before

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

So... I did some more math stuffs! Today, I decided to take a look at what possible background color the next fighter might have.
And these are the possible colors I got, minimally extended!

I only say minimally, because technically, there are 27 possible colors mathematically, but I just chose the first three because it'd take too much time today. So maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

If anybody is curious on how I did it, let me know, and I can post a link to the desmos page I used!

Also, do note, please do not take this seriously. This is just math at the end of the day and holds no weight. I just personally thought it'd be fun to do.

I hate the fact that the first thing i though when i saw these Colors was Shrek.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Today, I decided to take a look at what possible background color the next fighter might have.

Interesting. Let's see what colors we have here...

meh
eh
ew

Let's hope nobody uses that last one...

on a serious note i don't think we've had a violet bg before

Hero's is purple.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Interesting. Let's see what colors we have here...

meh
eh
ew

Let's hope nobody uses that last one...


Hero's is purple.

it's more pink-ish to my eyes

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

it's more pink-ish to my eyes

I was expecting a discrepancy on whether or not violet was the same color as purple but...How is that lavender color pink?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I was expecting a discrepancy on whether or not violet was the same color as purple but...How is that lavender color pink?

point is violet is a much deeper color than hero's bg

 

[chocolatejr9]

I hate the fact that the first thing i though when i saw these Colors was Shrek.

deep inhale

SomeBODY ONCE TOLD ME-

(If I had a nickel for everytime I made this joke, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice).

 

[Speed Weed]

That said, seeing Nights again reminds me of how Sumo wanted to do a Sega All-Stars Mecha Fighter where the characters fight against each other in Mechas based after their pilots and while fighting, the mechas would even lose parts of their bodies that players could pick up to attack with. Interesting concept.

My personal favorite "yeeted concept for an All-Stars game" is in this article from the old SEGA blogs where Steve Lycett (one of the big cheese of these games' development) briefly mentions a couple of the potential concepts thrown around during their "oh **** we finished working on Superstars Tennis, what do we do now" phase, and one of those was skating.

SEGA Blog | Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing Dev Diary – Concept

****ing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater but with SEGA characters. Imagine that.

Le sigh...All-Stars Transformed was a underrated classic.

I have a very hard time deciding on which of the two All-Stars Racing games I prefer, tbh. Not just in a "**** man both games are good" way, but in this really interesting manner where each game's strengths cover the other's weaknesses.

I think Transformed did most stuff better, but honestly I do prefer the first one in a few areas such as the overall roster, the way driving feels, the unlocking system, the vehicle variety and the "old-school arcade racer" aesthetic it has to it.

IMO the main problem with Transformed's roster is that it took out most of the "fun picks" from the first game, and in their place were a lot of secondary characters and weird guests. However, the newcomers they did add from series that weren't covered in the first one were all banger choices. Legit, you could just slap NiGHTS, Gillius, Joe and Vyse in the first game and it'd have had a damn near perfect roster.

.....Christ, I could keep yapping on about the All-Stars games for hours on end lmao

 

[CureParfait]

So kind of like this...thing

but hopefully less terrifying.

That is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

So... I did some more math stuffs! Today, I decided to take a look at what possible background color the next fighter might have.
And these are the possible colors I got, minimally extended!

I only say minimally, because technically, there are 27 possible colors mathematically, but I just chose the first three because it'd take too much time today. So maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

If anybody is curious on how I did it, let me know, and I can post a link to the desmos page I used!

Also, do note, please do not take this seriously. This is just math at the end of the day and holds no weight. I just personally thought it'd be fun to do.

If this pulls through then my vote is on Doom Guy taking these colours.

 

[Perkilator]

on a serious note i don't think we've had a violet bg before

Or a pink one, for that matter.

And I know who'd rock that pink!

 

[cashregister9]

Or a pink one, for that matter.

And I know who'd rock that pink!
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We don't have an orange one either

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I wonder if they just use the eyedropper tool to make the backgrounds.

 

[epicmartin7]

I wonder if they just use the eyedropper tool to make the backgrounds.

I legit wouldn't be surprised lol. Although, weirdly, the background assets aren't even out there. (Or at least from what I can see.) So I had to literally stop each fighter's website page from loading just to get each color. It was an interesting experience.

 

[SKX31]

So kind of like this...thing

but hopefully less terrifying.

I feel like I'm in the minority when I'm not that terrified. That's because, well, I've already been exposed to NiGHTS' roller coaster transformation in Journey of Dreams.

Spoiler: I'm pretty sure that transformation broke NiGHTS' soul.

I wonder if they just use the eyedropper tool to make the backgrounds.

I legit wouldn't be surprised lol. Although, weirdly, the background assets aren't even out there. (Or at least from what I can see.) So I had to literally stop each fighter's website page from loading just to get each color. It was an interesting experience.

Which wouldn't be out of character for Nintendo at large really. This is a good example:

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— Fanamel (@FanamelT) January 25, 2021

Edit: I should point out: it's not neccessarily a bad thing, but both cases are evidently pragmatic cost saving measures.

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

My personal favorite "yeeted concept for an All-Stars game" is in this article from the old SEGA blogs where Steve Lycett (one of the big cheese of these games' development) briefly mentions a couple of the potential concepts thrown around during their "oh **** we finished working on Superstars Tennis, what do we do now" phase, and one of those was skating.

SEGA Blog | Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing Dev Diary – Concept

****ing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater but with SEGA characters. Imagine that.

I have a very hard time deciding on which of the two All-Stars Racing games I prefer, tbh. Not just in a "**** man both games are good" way, but in this really interesting manner where each game's strengths cover the other's weaknesses.

I think Transformed did most stuff better, but honestly I do prefer the first one in a few areas such as the overall roster, the way driving feels, the unlocking system, the vehicle variety and the "old-school arcade racer" aesthetic it has to it.

IMO the main problem with Transformed's roster is that it took out most of the "fun picks" from the first game, and in their place were a lot of secondary characters and weird guests. However, the newcomers they did add from series that weren't covered in the first one were all banger choices. Legit, you could just slap NiGHTS, Gillius, Joe and Vyse in the first game and it'd have had a damn near perfect roster.

.....Christ, I could keep yapping on about the All-Stars games for hours on end lmao

my first ever game was sonic and sega all stars for the dsi - and i agree with the point of roster picks and stuff. like, it was really weird to me some of the characters that were omitted, though some made sense (like big for instance)

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

So... I did some more math stuffs! Today, I decided to take a look at what possible background color the next fighter might have.
And these are the possible colors I got, minimally extended!

I only say minimally, because technically, there are 27 possible colors mathematically, but I just chose the first three because it'd take too much time today. So maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

If anybody is curious on how I did it, let me know, and I can post a link to the desmos page I used!

Also, do note, please do not take this seriously. This is just math at the end of the day and holds no weight. I just personally thought it'd be fun to do.

I'm curious on the other colors now.

 

[epicmartin7]

I'm curious on the other colors now.

The colors are just variant hues based on these three. So there probably won't be much of a difference, but that's just me assuming.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The colors are just variant hues based on these three. So there probably won't be much of a difference, but that's just me assuming.

Obviously, Sothis is Challenger Pack 9

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Now that I look closer, it seems that the colors are:

• Piranha Plant: This one might not use it, as there isn't really any part of it that is sea foam green.
  • Maybe its the leaf color of one of the alts, like the pink one.
• Joker: Gloves.
• Hero: Eleven's clothing.
• Banjo & Kazooie: Kazooie's stomach feathers.
• Terry: Jeans. EDIT: This one I kind of just assumed, but his jeans aren't acutally that vibrant. Might be his eye color instead.
• Byleth: Hair (spoiler alt).
• Min Min: Also hair...Wait, if her hair and her ARMS are both noodles does that mean her arms are made out of hair?
• Steve: Steve's shirt. EDIT: Looking at it more, I'm not sure that Steve's shirt is this bright. Might be Swedish Alex's eyes instead.
• Sephiroth: At first I thought this was an exception as well due to the monochromatic color scheme, but it's entirely possible that the color is from where his eyes are in shadow, which explains the green tint.

Byleth (EDIT: and maybe Steve as well) is the odd one out here with an alt color as their background, but it is also from a canonical color scheme for the character, so it doesn't not make sense, which makes me wonder even more if this is the case for Piranha Plant as well or if Piranha Plant's color is truly hand picked.

To me this is interesting because it means that the color pallets are essentially just colors from each character's canonical pallets that look nice when placed behind them (meaning they compliment the overall color scheme without making the character harder to see). Based on that, you might actually be able to predict the next fighter's background color, but you'd have to predict the fighter first. Cue the game where you pick your most wanted's background color.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Even if we know the next character's background color it doesn't narrow down the potential list of newcomers. Case in point, Roy and Dr. Mario's background colors.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Aren’t Steve/Alex and Terry’s bg colors identical?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Aren’t Steve/Alex and Terry’s bg colors identical?

They are very similar, but I don't think they're the same. It might be the difference between Sky Blue and Light Blue or something like that.

EDIT: I think Steve's is more vibrant and Terry's is more pastel.

 

[SharkLord]

Now that I look closer, it seems that the colors are:

• Piranha Plant: This one might not use it, as there isn't really any part of it that is sea foam green.
  • Maybe its the leaf color of one of the alts, like the pink one.
• Joker: Gloves.
• Hero: Eleven's clothing.
• Banjo & Kazooie: Kazooie's stomach feathers.
• Terry: Jeans. EDIT: This one I kind of just assumed, but his jeans aren't acutally that vibrant. Might be his eye color instead.
• Byleth: Hair (spoiler alt).
• Min Min: Also hair...Wait, if her hair and her ARMS are both noodles does that mean her arms are made out of hair?
• Steve: Steve's shirt. EDIT: Looking at it more, I'm not sure that Steve's shirt is this bright. Might be Swedish Alex's eyes instead.
• Sephiroth: At first I thought this was an exception as well due to the monochromatic color scheme, but it's entirely possible that the color is from where his eyes are in shadow, which explains the green tint.

Byleth (EDIT: and maybe Steve as well) is the odd one out here with an alt color as their background, but it is also from a canonical color scheme for the character, so it doesn't not make sense, which makes me wonder even more if this is the case for Piranha Plant as well or if Piranha Plant's color is truly hand picked.

To me this is interesting because it means that the color pallets are essentially just colors from each character's canonical pallets that look nice when placed behind them (meaning they compliment the overall color scheme without making the character harder to see). Based on that, you might actually be able to predict the next fighter's background color, but you'd have to predict the fighter first. Cue the game where you pick your most wanted's background color.

Easy

Red

Blue

You could probably make a case for Klonoa being black or green, or Bandana Dee being orange or yellow, but it's easy to just sort them like this.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Even if we know the next character's background color it doesn't narrow down the potential list of newcomers. Case in point, Roy and Dr. Mario's background colors.

That is interesting since Roy's color seems to be taken from his green alt, which is probably not a canonical color for him. Perhaps it differs from base to DLC characters or maybe my observation has been a coincidence so far. Either way it's not really a good predictor, though it can be interesting to think about.

You could probably make a case for Klonoa being black or green, or Bandana Dee being orange or yellow, but it's easy to just sort them like this.

Probably makes sense for Bandana Waddle Dee's color to be cream or blue since it's less likely to make his orange body or yellow feet and spear flair to blend in. It would probably depend a bit on how his body is shaded though.

Same with Klonoa and black; you probably wouldn't be able to see his limbs as easily, and that one's likely regardless of shading.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Easy

Red

Honestly for Adol, I think they might go for blue or a yellow/tan. Just looking at different game covers, those seem to be the series' go-to colors for their logos and backgrounds. Plus, red would blend in to his head if they weren't really careful about it.

 

[Idon]

Now that I look closer, it seems that the colors are:

• Piranha Plant: This one might not use it, as there isn't really any part of it that is sea foam green.
  • Maybe its the leaf color of one of the alts, like the pink one.
• Joker: Gloves.
• Hero: Eleven's clothing.
• Banjo & Kazooie: Kazooie's stomach feathers.
• Terry: Jeans. EDIT: This one I kind of just assumed, but his jeans aren't acutally that vibrant. Might be his eye color instead.
• Byleth: Hair (spoiler alt).
• Min Min: Also hair...Wait, if her hair and her ARMS are both noodles does that mean her arms are made out of hair?
• Steve: Steve's shirt. EDIT: Looking at it more, I'm not sure that Steve's shirt is this bright. Might be Swedish Alex's eyes instead.
• Sephiroth: At first I thought this was an exception as well due to the monochromatic color scheme, but it's entirely possible that the color is from where his eyes are in shadow, which explains the green tint.

Byleth (EDIT: and maybe Steve as well) is the odd one out here with an alt color as their background, but it is also from a canonical color scheme for the character, so it doesn't not make sense, which makes me wonder even more if this is the case for Piranha Plant as well or if Piranha Plant's color is truly hand picked.

To me this is interesting because it means that the color pallets are essentially just colors from each character's canonical pallets that look nice when placed behind them (meaning they compliment the overall color scheme without making the character harder to see). Based on that, you might actually be able to predict the next fighter's background color, but you'd have to predict the fighter first. Cue the game where you pick your most wanted's background color.

Demi-fiend will have a 4 color gradient

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

Demi-fiend will have a 4 color gradient

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This is how Demi-fiend wins.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Rex's hypothetical background color would be interesting to see because he would likely share his slot on the website with Pyra, and Mythra if she's included as well. That would mean that the color would have to fit Rex's blue, Pyra's red, and Mythra's whi-...Actually, it would probably be emerald because all three of them have this color in their pallets.

tfw you think of something that completely invalidates your previous train of thought as you type it