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The ARMS announcement made the following few months a chore speculation-wise, but most people who watch reveals don't dive into the discussion as much as we do. Had it not been for that pre-reveal reveal, I think the reaction to an ARMS character would've been a lot more muted.
Only if your using it to, ya know, play a game.
You know, most SF players hate that stage, but I'll take it anyway if it gets us the best song in SF!
Maybe in the Smash community, but not in general.
I think most people still count Captain Toad as Toad. Nintendo is taking the long standing iconicness of Toad, giving him some uniqueness, personality, and his own game. That certainly seems like a push.
Never even thought about that, but now I NEED CASINO NIGHT ZONE.
Character hype can also be a effect of personal preferences.
Well that's a given considering it's a platform and not a game, but I'm sure the games on it is what they were referring to.
That’s a good point. The fact that Captain Toad even exists shows the push that Toad is getting. Not only did they take the time to evolve a character that has been around for years, but they also decided to give him his own game. Dude is already tied with Peach for spin-off games.
I feel like timing is a big part of it as well. Byleth could have gotten a much better reaction if they didn’t have to follow up four major third party characters, two of which happen to also be JRPG protagonists.
On a personal level I kind of agree, but that`s mostly because all of my first party wishes have already been added and at this point, I can`t really think of any other in-house characters I`d get really really hyped up for.
Fun GTA fact: only the protagonists of GTA V do drugs, none of the other games have that as an option. Build a drug empire? Sure. But not use. So that's actually not a problem if they wanted to represent GTA.
Mipha time babyyyy, fish waifu with cool trident moves.Obviously this means the next fighter is 100% guaranteed to be first party
Nope you're getting Daruk instead. Nintendo only adds characters no one asked for.Mipha time babyyyy, fish waifu with cool trident moves.
Not on screen maybe, but they most of the protagonists were definitely crushing some fat lines on the side when the player wasn't looking.
If we're following the "trend" of 1st party DLC's so far, then sure yeah. Though that's only a pattern established by 2 characters so I still wouldn't say this for certain. That would really only leave Rex or an 8th gen pokemon as options (Technically Astral Chain too I suppose).
I heard she is, though it's not so much her character as it his her gameplay. Kind of like why Bayonetta was hated in Smash 4 despite being a popular pick before her inclusion, but to a much lesser degree.
Competitively speaking, yes. She has the greatest amounts of dislikes per video on any tournament video.
Y'Know, considering how often he takes it over, you could argue that Hyrule Castle could be considered Ganondorf's stage in hindsight. Same applies to Dedede and the Fountain of Dreams or (if you really wanna get technical (or just grasp for straws like I've been doing this entire post)) Bowser Jr. & Rainbow Cruise (the Airship theme is the second song on its tracklist).
I personally would count Norfair for Ridley. It is a more generalized as a stage, but it is also the level most associated with the character as that's the place where you fight him the most between Metroid, ZM, and Super, and no other character has a major connection to it otherwise. So he easily has the best claim to call it home, especially over Samus. You also could count Venom for Wolf since that's the last area you can fight Star Wolf in, though with that one you could argue it's more associated with Andross.
Don’t forget that
is a villain, even if a very minor one, and that we have multiple Mario stages featuring its natural Warp Pipe home (including one that has it as a stage hazard even if you’re also playing as it.)
And Astral Chain and Sword and Shield both got spirit events so they are out.
The only way I see that being true is if Sakurai knew he was going to work on a new Smash game immediately after DLC ends and thus decides it is better to save some highly requested characters for that game. Besides, it would have made a lot if sense to save Steve as a selling point for the next game as well.
Yes, but that's from the competitive side of things. I imagine that once offline tournaments come back to the rest of the world Min Min's infamy in Japan would spread to other competitive scenes.
Yeah I think I’m in the same boat. It’s not that Nintendo characters can’t be super hype cause I feel like some of the most beloved announcements this cycle were K. Rool and Ridley. It’s just that the characters that would make people the most happy aren’t feasible. The likelihood of them adding Isaac, Krystal, Bandana Dee, Waluigi, Captain Toad, Dixie Kong, or even Lyn is so minimal that it leaves us wondering why they would choose to add anyone but a 3rd party instead.
At the same time, we've failed over and over to correctly guess who's going to join the battle next. Of course, Nintendo isn't deliberately avoiding common predictions, they just have a different train of thought. Not to mention, we've already reached the hype peak that these dev cycles tend to have. It can only go downhill from here if you want them to one-up Steve and Sephiroth in the same pass.
I'd like to add that not only are many fan favorites considered unfeasible as of now, but so are most curveballs.
, or are definitely not for everyone, but it at least showed their willingness to delve deeper for interesting concepts or movesets. The fact that our curveball pick of Ultimate was another Mario character speaks volumes of how this attitude has changed.You know, it's wild that out of all villains, Bowser doesn't have his own stage. I mean, you'd think Bowser's Castle would be one of the first things they would think up given its a staple of Mario & Mario kart games.
Amongst the competitive scene there, yes. Purely from a gameplay perspective, there's no real vitriol against the character herself:
I'm not entirely convinced that will be the case this time around - Cloud was a latecomer, although the difference there is that he was not part of a structured DLC pack or anything like that. OTOH, ARMS was relatively low-key compared to Steve / Sephiroth and started off FP2 (even if ARMS is one of the new Nintendo franchises with high profile).
I'll admit the guy who made the chart was too biased against Isabelle, to be fair-she still would've been hype to casuals, just not the people Ridley/Belmonts/K. Rool were targeting. I'm sure the next three characters will at least have a million fans, they just won't cover the same people hoping for Crash, Doomguy, Dante etc.
how on earth are steve and sephiroth "low key"?
He's saying the characters AFTER Steve, Sephiroth, and CP9 will be low key.
