Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Idon]

The worst of XCX is when they try to cross anime with realism.

Worst of which is Lin, who's a main party member.

XC, even for a Wii game, looked pretty alright, artstyle wise.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

And then the next character is:

Aight damn dude. You been holding out on us.

 

[Spongeboob]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Zero, Yuri and Rathalos.

 

[JustPlainDan]

So in terms of the assist trophy question, I would go with: Ghirahim, Krystal, and Shovel Knight

 

[Ben Holt]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Shadow the Hedgehog, Shovel Knight, and Alucard.

 

[BlondeLombax]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Waluigi, Bomberman and Knuckles (come at me, ShadBros!).

 

[Goombaic]

It's nice seeing Shovel Knight be included in several of these assist promotion lists. He's a character that i think will eventually join the roster, no matter how far down the line that is. Still, being an assist trophy is pretty fitting for the indie cameo king.

And then the next character is:

Can't believe you're not based anymore.

 

[osby]

Waluigi, Bomberman and Knuckles (come at me, ShadBros!).

7NATOR is typing

 

[DarthEnderX]

I'm really torn on Kiryu. Because, like, I love the Yakuza series. But I feel like Kiryu is direct competition for Kunio.

Because he's BASICALLY just adult Kunio. Yakuza is pretty much just River City Ransom for grownups.

They're both games about a thug in a white outift, running around a Japanese town beating up other thugs, hitting people with junk, and then going into shops to eat.

It's nice seeing Shovel Knight be included in several of these assist promotion lists. He's a character that i think will eventually join the roster, no matter how far down the line that is.

To cement his status, he really needs to, ya know, COME OUT WITH A 2ND GODDAMN GAME!

 

[RaintheCriminalWhirlwind]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Shadow, Lynn and Isaac

 

[osby]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

So they're going to come with full fighter packs, aren't they? In that case, I'd choose these three:

• Zero (comes with content primarily from X series in contrast with)
• Akira Yuki (you don't even have to change his AT, his non-blocky look is distinct enough)
• Bomberman

I'd also want to see Midna, Shadow, Spring Man etc. upgraded but they felt better suited to being base game additions.

 

[7NATOR]

7NATOR is typing

If Shadow didn't get in, I'd be fine if it was Knuckles instead. I'd be disappointed because it's not Shadow, But Knuckles is also very cool. He rocks and he has flavor

I'd also be very cool with Silver, Metal Sonic, Mephiles, Infinite, Chaos 0, and Blaze. Eggman is alright but I'd wonder how they do him, and Tails would be the most disappointing

 

[BlondeLombax]

If Shadow didn't get in, I'd be fine if it was Knuckles instead. I'd be disappointed because it's not Shadow, But Knuckles is also very cool. He rocks and he has flavor

I'd also be very cool with Silver, Metal Sonic, Mephiles, Infinite, Chaos 0, and Blaze. Eggman is alright but I'd wonder how they do him, and Tails would be the most disappointing

A lot of people think Eggman would work by piloting his mech from SA2, kind of like a fatter version of Bowser Jr. It helps that the Eggmobile can store practically anything inside it, from a wrecking ball, a flamethrower, drills, and even external attachments.

 

[7NATOR]

A lot of people think Eggman would work by piloting his mech from SA2, kind of like a fatter version of Bowser Jr. It helps that the Eggmobile can store practically anything inside it, from a wrecking ball, a flamethrower, drills, and even external attachments.

You're not doing this, But since you mentioned Bowser Jr. It just reminded me to say this

That many times I've seen people Call Shadow "Just a Sonic echo" and in the same breath say that Eggman would be much more Unique, and that he'd play like Bowser Jr., which is very paradoxical and it does sometimes frustrate me

In any case, I think If they really wanted to add Eggman as Playable, I think they should probably Try to make the mech really big, since most of his Boss fights (especially the Iconic ones) are in very big mechs, and I think those mechs are really where Eggman Shines. He' probably also be a Heavyweight Zoner even more than what King dedede is, so it be crazy.

The SA2 Mech could work, but it makes Eggman seem more normal and kind of underpowered compared to how he should be. and Just the Egg Mobile might be similar in style to Bowser Jr. I think you really want Eggman to pull out all the stops if you put him in Smash

 

[Guynamednelson]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Isaac, Takamaru, Zero

Steam

If you're using that version, get this.

 

[Lamperouge]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Lyn, Black Knight, and Tiki.

 

[BlondeLombax]

You're not doing this, But since you mentioned Bowser Jr. It just reminded me to say this

That many times I've seen people Call Shadow "Just a Sonic echo" and in the same breath say that Eggman would be much more Unique, and that he'd play like Bowser Jr., which is very paradoxical and it does sometimes frustrate me

In any case, I think If they really wanted to add Eggman as Playable, I think they should probably Try to make the mech really big, since most of his Boss fights (especially the Iconic ones) are in very big mechs, and I think those mechs are really where Eggman Shines. He' probably also be a Heavyweight Zoner even more than what King dedede is, so it be crazy.

The SA2 Mech could work, but it makes Eggman seem more normal and kind of underpowered compared to how he should be. and Just the Egg Mobile might be similar in style to Bowser Jr. I think you really want Eggman to pull out all the stops if you put him in Smash

I always sort of saw Eggman riding a tiny version of either the Egg Breaker or Egg Emperor, truth be told. Maybe because Shadow is unironically one of my favorite Sonic games.
Speaking of which, I think Shadow is best suited to be more like Isabelle or Ken; based off of another character, but with a few tricks of their own, like the Chaos Spear, Chaos Blast... heck, I wouldn’t be against it if they threw a gun or two in there.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

I pick Alucard, Samurai Goroh and Monty Python's Black Knight.

 

[N3ON]

You're not doing this, But since you mentioned Bowser Jr. It just reminded me to say this

That many times I've seen people Call Shadow "Just a Sonic echo" and in the same breath say that Eggman would be much more Unique, and that he'd play like Bowser Jr., which is very paradoxical and it does sometimes frustrate me

In any case, I think If they really wanted to add Eggman as Playable, I think they should probably Try to make the mech really big, since most of his Boss fights (especially the Iconic ones) are in very big mechs, and I think those mechs are really where Eggman Shines. He' probably also be a Heavyweight Zoner even more than what King dedede is, so it be crazy.

The SA2 Mech could work, but it makes Eggman seem more normal and kind of underpowered compared to how he should be. and Just the Egg Mobile might be similar in style to Bowser Jr. I think you really want Eggman to pull out all the stops if you put him in Smash

I think the extent of the comparison to Bowser Jr is just that they'd be characters piloting mechs/vehicles. Not that their movesets would resemble each other.

But Eggman would be unique. He couldn't feasibly be a clone of anyone. Shadow can be unique too, but he could also be a Sonic clone. And of the Sonic characters, him being made a clone is the most plausible. The arguments in that vein which he faces are in many ways the same sort that Dark Samus did.

 

[BlondeLombax]

And of the Sonic characters, him being made a clone is the most plausible.

I mean, there’s still Metal Sonic to worry about...

 

[N3ON]

I mean, there’s still Metal Sonic to worry about...

I meant of the characters that actually had a chance to get in.

 

[Guynamednelson]

and Monty Python's Black Knight

And Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie

 

[Evil Trapezium]

And Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie

And Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

For what it's worth, the reason XC2 has an anime artstyle is because nobody liked the realistic artstyle of XC1 and XCX, so they decided to go with an artstyle that played into their strengths. Which just so happened to be anime. Maybe something similar can happen.

I'm pretty sure both XC1 and XCX had anime artstyles (Or at least XC1 was supposed to have them but the poor graphics on the Wii made it harder). That said XC2 is a lot more obvious.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Basically Cloud's limit combined with Wario's waft. Not what I would want Rex to do, but I could see it happening and haven't seen it mentioned.

"Wind is meant to be broken."

Look...I love Arthur. But shirtless Arthur doesn't dampen brows.

You could probably blame that on his lame choice of underwear, tbh. Though his is not quite as bad as Maximo's.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Shovel Knight, Shadow, Tingle

All joking aside, if Tingle doesn't count due to not being one in Ultimate, either Alucard or Zero could be the third

 

[BritishGuy54]

I am still predicting Rex & Pyra are coming March 11th. The week after... I’m expecting the Monster Hunter and/or Tales Mii Costumes.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I don't expect any more Western fighters in the Fighter Pass for a variety of reasons.

....which are?

 

[BritishGuy54]

....which are?

He’s probably talking about Characters like Crash, Spyro, Rayman, Doom Slayer, etc. But yeah, my expectations for a western rep have dropped quite a bit.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

He’s probably talking about Characters like Crash, Spyro, Rayman, Doom Slayer, etc. But yeah, my expectations for a western rep have dropped quite a bit.

I was asking for what his reasons are.

I know what a Western character is lol

 

[Arcane Jill]

So I saw this being discussed somewhere else.

Let's play a game. You get to choose who the last 3 characters are, BUT they have to be assist trophy upgrades. Who do you pick?

I choose Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.

Isaac, Tiki, Midna
If we can count past ATs that aren't in Ultimate, replace Tiki with Ray Mk III.

 

[Truth the Ceomasterz33]

This Prediction March Will be Reveal Trailer!

 

[SNEKeater]

Honestly same.

I started this speculation cycle liking Yuri and loving Lloyd but all the Lloyd bashing is starting to make me dislike Yuri.

I try not to make fans affect my love of a character but...

Gosh darn it, it hurts having one of your favorite games of all time constantly bashed purely to build up a game I find overrated.

It's actually turned me off of Velvet too and I was looking forward to playing that one.

It just feels like people can't talk about Tales anymore without bashing Lloyd and that really sucks the wind out of my sails.

I don't know I have barely seen people bashing Lloyd but maybe I'm wrong. So far what I saw was different opinions and perspectives about why Yuri could be a serious contender for Smash. Obviously in these cases biases play an important part and there's always people that don't know how to behave and will take advantage of these situations and start wars between fans of different characters, but luckily that's not the usual.

The biggest offensive point against Lloyd that I have seen around here is that "he's not really popular in the overall Tales community" or not really a "big fan request" or things like that, points I disagree with, by the way.

I guess for people who barely knows anything about Tales except Lloyd Yuri might seem like "people pushing this guy just for the sake to be contrarian and/or because they dislike Lloyd" but I don't think that's the case at all, besides a few exceptions. I see it more like people trying to show others that Yuri has his reasons to be the choice. I don't see it as "Yuri good Lloyd bad".

If we speak about their personalities and all, I prefer Yuri. But I also like Lloyd, he's a good guy. At the same time I probably enjoyed Symphonia a bit more than Vesperia, at least if we speak about the story and cast of characters. I felt more involved with Symphonia in that regard.
Music I'd say both are more or less equally good though I remember more tracks from Symphonia, and the combat is fun in both games but naturally more refined in Vesperia because it came out later.

 

[Mr. Robotto]

This Prediction March Will be Reveal Trailer!

There's a tiny part of me that believes you're a leaker hiding behind an Indonesian Internet persona, as to hide your real identity from the vicious Nintendo Ninjas.

So yes, please share some more insider information with us Mr. Truth! Will there finally be Shakedown: Hawaii representation in Smash?

 

[DarthEnderX]

That many times I've seen people Call Shadow "Just a Sonic echo" and in the same breath say that Eggman would be much more Unique, and that he'd play like Bowser Jr., which is very paradoxical and it does sometimes frustrate me

Does it really? Cause one of those characters, ya know, is a hedgehog that looks like Sonic, that originally shared his moveset.

If you find it frustrating why some people might think that should be an Echo...I dunno what to tell you.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Shadow always struck me as being the Luigi to Sonic's Mario. Likely sharing elements for 1-2 special moves and some similarities with Smash attacks but also with clear divergence in their emphases otherwise.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Honestly same.

I started this speculation cycle liking Yuri and loving Lloyd but all the Lloyd bashing is starting to make me dislike Yuri.

I try not to make fans affect my love of a character but...

Gosh darn it, it hurts having one of your favorite games of all time constantly bashed purely to build up a game I find overrated.

It's actually turned me off of Velvet too and I was looking forward to playing that one.

It just feels like people can't talk about Tales anymore without bashing Lloyd and that really sucks the wind out of my sails.

I barly see anyone bash lloyd. I just throw facts out about how popular Yuri is in Japan, not bashing him and Hope Yuri isnt pushed to the side by people when it come to talking about Tales. All I want is for is people to give him a freaking chance, damn. He has all the same rights to be talked about as Lloyd

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Of the potential Sonic reps.

I'd like to get Eggman the most for two reasons.

More villains especially being he's one of the Big 4 of video games with Bowser, Ganondorf, and Sephiroth.
Another mech user.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There's a tiny part of me that believes you're a leaker hiding behind an Indonesian Internet persona, as to hide your real identity from the vicious Nintendo Ninjas.

So yes, please share some more insider information with us Mr. Truth! Will there finally be Shakedown: Hawaii representation in Smash?

No, you'll get Mr. Shakedown in Smash instead. When making that deal Sakurai was cited saying "Kazuma Kiryu more like Kazuma Kir-who lmao gotteem"

 

[Truth the Ceomasterz33]

No, you'll get Mr. Shakedown in Smash instead. When making that deal Sakurai was cited saying "Kazuma Kiryu more like Kazuma Kir-who lmao gotteem"

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