Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[chocolatejr9]

Sorta unrelated but I can't help but laugh whenever I see a character unfairly dismissed as a generic anime swordsman because one of my most-wanted characters is pretty much just a generic anime swordsman
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Wasn't he one of the first though? I think this one's a bit excusable.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I don’t care for Hayabusa in the slightest but you don’t see me putting people down for it!

I didn't put you down. I put that hypothetical pass down.

You are not those characters.

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?

Top 3 eh?
Mother Brain [Metroid]
Dr. Wily piloting Wily Machine [Mega Man]
Eggman piloting Death Egg Robot [Sonic the Hedgehog]

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Geese Howard or Rugal Bernstein almost made the list, but I feel like including either of those two would make classic mode runs and World of Light playthroughs much more frustrating.

They're also a lot like playable characters. I feel like if characters like that are to be bosses, then they should also be playable. Kind of like an Akuma vs. Shin Akuma kind of thing.

 

[Momotsuki]

I didn't put you down. I put that hypothetical pass down.

You are not those characters.

You put everything down though. For some reason. I mean, if that's your thing, go ahead I guess, there's a few of ya.

 

[SharkLord]

They're also a lot like playable characters. I feel like if characters like that are to be bosses, then they should also be playable. Kind of like an Akuma vs. Shin Akuma kind of thing.

Rugal is a fighter. He is top-tier.
Omega Rugal is a boss. He is horrendously unfair.

Yes

 

[Lyncario]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Ultra-Necrozma
2. Hades (KIU)
3. Bahamuth

 

[Schnee117]

They're also a lot like playable characters. I feel like if characters like that are to be bosses, then they should also be playable. Kind of like an Akuma vs. Shin Akuma kind of thing.

Smash fans aren't ready for Shin Akuma or Omega Rugal

 

[Momotsuki]

See people talk about that regarding bosses and I'm a tad conflicted. Marx is one of my favorite characters out there - Kirby Super Star Ultra is an absolute bangin' gem of a game. I wanted him a lot but with him as boss - I kind of think that was a better spot for him? I like him being playable in Kirby Star Allies - my first solo Soul Melter EX run was with him, even - but he was done so much better justice as a boss in Smash.

Sakurai recently mentioned how he had to be toned down in the creepy department - and even then he's still wonderfully unsettling. I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall to see the drafts for that...

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

1. Ultra-Necrozma
2. Hades (KIU)
3. Bahamuth

I misread that last one as Baphomet and thought this was your last choice.

Spoiler: This Thing

 

[osby]

Sorta unrelated but I can't help but laugh whenever I see a character unfairly dismissed as a generic anime swordsman because one of my most-wanted characters is pretty much just a generic anime swordsman
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I mean, considering how characters are called "generic anime swordsman" despite

1. Having distinct designs
2. Having a design that's unrelated to mainstream anime
3. Having weapons other thsn swords
4. Not being men

I think you can safely say that it's a term with zero meaning and you should be allowed to ignore users who say it unironically.

 

[Technomage]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

Let's see...
1) Eggman in the Death Egg Robot (IF he doesn't become playable)
2) Grima and Possessed Robin
3) Gruntilda Winkybunion and Hag-1

 

[DarthEnderX]

You put everything down though.

Complete bull****. I support lots of things. You're just pissed off because those 3 characters I disliked happen to be 3 of your most wanted, so now you're gonna inaccurately characterize me.

 

[Eldrake]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Giga Ridley (Composite Boss of Brawl Ridley, Meta-Ridley, Pyrosphere Ridley and of course Fighter Ridley)
2. Metal Face
3. Geese Howard

 

[TheCJBrine]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Giygas
2. Ender Dragon
3. Grunty

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Vergil
2. Father Balder
3. Malos

 

[Momotsuki]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Galacta Knight
2. Flandre Scarlet
3. Master Core (are returning bosses fair game here?)

 

[Ivander]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?

1. Mother Brain
2. Ultra-Necrozma
3. Porky Minch (fought at the Devil's Machine)

 

[Perkilator]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Ho-Oh
2. Grima
3. Porky

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

3. Master Core (are returning bosses fair game here?)

I don’t see why not, they are still a boss after all. I’ve never actually fought master core, on account of me being to poor to afford a Wii U. And once I did have money, we had Ultimate.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

1. Nightmare (Metroid Fusion)
2. Medusa (Kid Icarus)
3. Metal Gear Rex (MGS1)

 

[Momotsuki]

A few days ago I was actually pondering Galacta Knight as a boss.
Maybe a sort of Melee-esque adventure mode that usually ends with Master Hand & Crazy Hand rather than giant Bowser.

Meeting certain criteria, upon reaching Final Destination, Master Hand draws a little hole in the sky which he then peels off - kinda like how he tears a hole into the Final Battle in WoL. He'd chuckle a bit to himself as the crystal emerges, then Crazy Hand gives the crystal a hard flick of his finger, shattering it.

Galacta Knight gives a death glare to Crazy Hand, and Crazy then makes a beeline out of there. Master Hand just kinda stares, before getting sliced in half, a bit of swarm spilling out from him as he falls down below Final Destination. Cue the boss fight~

 

[Otoad64]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1.Death Egg Robot (Sonic)
2.Plasm Wraith (Pikmin)
3.Ultra Necrozma (Pokemon)

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Here are my bosses:

• Wily Teleport System
  • You battle 8 of the most popular Robot Masters in the series. Beating each one gives you an item that fires their weapon, and you can use it against the others to defeat them quicker. Dr. Wily can be at the end, or he can be in a separate fight entirely.
• Magolor/Magolor Soul
  • A multiphase boss fight with the Super Copy Ability finisher replaced with your Final Smash. It's perfect.
• Shin Akuma
  • Same as a hypothetical playable Akuma, but with unfair stats.

Smash fans aren't ready for Shin Akuma or Omega Rugal

I may not be ready but I'd love to see how they'd handle a boss like that.

A few days ago I was actually pondering Galacta Knight as a boss.
Maybe a sort of Melee-esque adventure mode that usually ends with Master Hand & Crazy Hand rather than giant Bowser.

Meeting certain criteria, Master Hand draws a little hole in the sky which he then peels off - kinda like how he tears a hole into the Final Battle in WoL. He'd chuckle a bit to himself as the crystal emerges, then Crazy Hand gives the crystal a hard flick of his finger, shattering it.

Galacta Knight gives a death glare to Crazy Hand, and Crazy then makes a beeline out of there. Master Hand just kinda stares, before getting sliced in half, a bit of swarm spilling out from him as he falls down below Final Destination. Cue the boss fight~

Galacta Knight, Morpho Knight, and Dark Meta Knight are exceptions to my "they look like playable characters so they should also be playable if boss" line of thinking since they're basically just Meta Knight. Should definitely be skins though.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I would just want them to bring back the bosses from Brawl more than anything. Had a blast with that boss rush mode.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I mean, considering how characters are called "generic anime swordsman" despite

1. Having distinct designs
2. Having a design that's unrelated to mainstream anime
3. Having weapons other thsn swords
4. Not being men

I think you can safely say that it's a term with zero meaning and you should be allowed to ignore users who say it unironically.

The latter two make some sense, as they can still be primarily associated with the sword even though they don't use it exclusively (like Byleth), and I'm pretty sure "swordsman" means "human with sword" rather than "male with sword". Like, even if we were talking about a girl we'd probably get weird looks if we said she was practicing her swordswomanship.

The former two are just people being silly. Anime isn't inherently generic. Of course, the title really means "anime swordsman that I don't like" rather than simply a generic one but what can ya do.

 

[Perkilator]

Sorta unrelated but I can't help but laugh whenever I see a character unfairly dismissed as a generic anime swordsman because one of my most-wanted characters is pretty much just a generic anime swordsman
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First time?

Granted, I've seen people rag on Sakura for other reasons, and I don't think "sword" was one of them.

 

[SharkLord]

First time?
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Granted, I've seen people rag on Sakura for other reasons, and I don't think "sword" was one of them.

Thankfully I haven't gotten any major complaints, but there's still the fact that Adol is an anime-styled medieval European swordfighter who's probably gonna get compared to Roy. Doesn't help that there's a chance he won't have any major gimmicks, unless we count having a rock band following him wherever he goes.

Though, there's still the chance he could pull a Terry and wow people with 50 songs (Though realistically I'd aim for just 30)

 

[Lyncario]

I misread that last one as Baphomet and thought this was your last choice.

Spoiler: This Thing

To ne fair, he does apear in SMT so he could be a boss for the series, even if Lucifer or YHVH is a way better choice for an SMT boss.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

What y’all think about the Hyrule Warriors spirits in terms of a KT character? Think it makes their chances lower, higher, or no change at all?

In the Hayabusa thread there was a point that before we got Sephiroth we had random Square Spirit Events so could this mean that we might actually see Arc System Works get in since they had a random spirit event? I’m curious to hear y’all’s thoughts.

And I’ll be quite honest, Hayabusa and Sol Badguy being 2 of our last 3 is a ok with me.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I would just want them to bring back the bosses from Brawl more than anything. Had a blast with that boss rush mode.

I remember watching the World of Light Direct 2 years ago, I’m pretty sure the one of the biggest highlights of it for me and a lot of people in terms of the gameplay section for WOL was seeing that Galleom Boss Fight return.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What y’all think about the Hyrule Warriors spirits in terms of a KT character? Think it makes their chances lower, higher, or no change at all?

In the Hayabusa thread there was a point that before we got Sephiroth and we had random Square Spirit Events so could this mean that we might actually see Arc System Works get in since they had a random spirit event? I’m curious to hear y’all’s thoughts.

Thing is Square already had two playable characters beforehand - Cloud and Hero. This is ArcSys and KT’s first pieces of content in the game, so IMO it doesn’t bode well. Same goes for Bethesda with the Vault Boy mii, and one might argue it doesn’t look good for Ubisoft with the Altaïr costume either

 

[DarthEnderX]

What y’all think about the Hyrule Warriors spirits in terms of a KT character? Think it makes their chances lower, higher, or no change at all?

In the Hayabusa thread there was a point that before we got Sephiroth we had random Square Spirit Events so could this mean that we might actually see Arc System Works get in since they had a random spirit event? I’m curious to hear y’all’s thoughts.

If nothing else, it proves those companies are already working with Sakurai.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

What y’all think about the Hyrule Warriors spirits in terms of a KT character? Think it makes their chances lower, higher, or no change at all?

In the Hayabusa thread there was a point that before we got Sephiroth we had random Square Spirit Events so could this mean that we might actually see Arc System Works get in since they had a random spirit event? I’m curious to hear y’all’s thoughts.

And I’ll be quite honest, Hayabusa and Sol Badguy being 2 of our last 3 is a ok with me.

Eh, no change. It has absolutely nothing to do with Ryu or Kasumi, and for a Dynasty Warriors character, it just means that their Spirit Board won't come with the spin-off characters save for maybe Lana, Cia, Volga, Rowan, and Lianna.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Thing is Square already had two playable characters beforehand - Cloud and Hero. This is ArcSys and KT’s first pieces of content in the game, so IMO it doesn’t bode well. Same goes for Bethesda with the Vault Boy mii, and one might argue it doesn’t look good for Ubisoft with the Altaïr costume either

Well, I would make the argument that Mii Costumes are different than Spirits considering that Mii Costumes are what I consider the “Result” of talks while spirits are “Proof” of talks. While we mostly consider Mii Costumes as consolation prizes and Spirits as disconfirms right now seeing a disconfirm for Kunio but knowing they’re in talks with Arc bodes well for Sol but that’s just my thoughts on it. I could be completely wrong and our last 3 are completely unrelated to these two companies but it’s just something that was floating in my head.

Personally, seeing Nintendo having talks with ArcSys for random spirits is a little suspicious but who knows.

 

[3BitSaurus]

unless we count having a rock band following him wherever he goes

I mean... I don't think that's a bad gimmick to have, honestly.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Thing is Square already had two playable characters beforehand - Cloud and Hero. This is ArcSys and KT’s first pieces of content in the game, so IMO it doesn’t bode well. Same goes for Bethesda with the Vault Boy mii, and one might argue it doesn’t look good for Ubisoft with the Altaïr costume either

I personally don't think it makes much sense for Spirit Events to disconfirm a whole company. Mii Costumes, maybe, but not Spirit Events. For example, the River City series has nothing to do with the BlazBlue or Guilty Gear series, so there's no conflict there. As for the whole "why would they reveal a company's involvement before adding a character" argument, I'll answer that question with another question: "do the general public really care about the companies in a crossover or are they just here for the IPs?" Also, it's not like the SNK leak where we knew a company was getting added and also that it was going to have a fighter. Here we just know that they had a Spirit Event for one of their IPs.

 

[cashregister9]

This sounds like a fun game. If you could add 3 bosses to Ultimate, who would they be?
My 3.
1. Giygas
2. Mother Brain
3. GladOS.

1. Grima
2. Dragaux
3. The Cyberdemon

 

[Evil Trapezium]

What y’all think about the Hyrule Warriors spirits in terms of a KT character? Think it makes their chances lower, higher, or no change at all?

In the Hayabusa thread there was a point that before we got Sephiroth we had random Square Spirit Events so could this mean that we might actually see Arc System Works get in since they had a random spirit event? I’m curious to hear y’all’s thoughts.

And I’ll be quite honest, Hayabusa and Sol Badguy being 2 of our last 3 is a ok with me.

I don't see why Nintendo wouldn't want to have a Koei Tecmo rep in this pass, unless Nintendo doesn't really view them as big as the other companies because they worked on Nintendo's IPs, thus not making them look equal. We did have SNK in Pass 1 so not being big enough shouldn't be an issue.

As for who they'd pick, I couldn't see it being anyone else other than Ryu Hayabusa since he's their cross over king as far as know, he'd be a retro rep if Sakurai is able to choose a rep and he's their most popular Koei Tecmo character, trumping all other requests that have been made from that company.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

3. The Cyberdemon

I initially read "The Cyberdramon" and thought "a Digimon boss would be neat."

EDIT: Ha! Knew there was a Digimon of that name!

Spoiler: Image

 

[RileyXY1]

As far as Pokemon goes, I don't know if it would get a new rep due to the Spirit Event. I also don't think that they would add a character to promote a remake, and besides Gen 4 itself already has very good representation in the game.