Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Þe 1 → Way]

I honestly can’t decide whether I’d want a TF2 or Half Life rep more. Though I know for sure Portal would have the best stage and boss.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I honestly can’t decide whether I’d want a TF2 or Half Life rep more. Though I know for sure Portal would have the best stage and boss.

Could be worse. You could be like me trying to push L4D as another Valve option, so you have three big ones to choose from.

And then they pick Ricochet Guy to be the Valve fighter.

 

[Will]

For any Valve rep, I think either Half Life or TF2 is the obvious solution. Portal can get chosen, and I like Portal, but I feel a vibe if you will about it not being Portal, like how I believe Ryu Hayabusa would get in before any Dynasty Warrior character.

 

[blackghost]

i still feel that people arent looking at this right. what are the biggest game franshies left that nintendo could grab just to shock people? I always land on League of Legends and something blizzard.
i think ahri is a very likely choice. way more popular than someone like reimu globally and it still would seem like a total surprise to people. blizzard is like capcom they could have their own list of likely choices.

for capcom I think its either chunli or monster hunter. my heart wants dante but im pretty sure hes out at this point. both have strong arguments beyond their legacy as games. monster hunter is already in smash represented but not playable. so its either an argument of monsters themselves represent the series and Nintendo and Sakurai were satisfied or they were just holding off for a chance to add more later.

chun-li has the terry bogard connection to Sakurai maybe not as strong but since he grew up in arcades when SF 2 and third strike were both hugely active he is connected to her uniquely. and unlike terry chun-li is popular in a more general sense. her moveset easily translates and given her mobility in SF she'd make a very interesting smash character plus the last few characters have all been weapon-based Sakurai does love to change it up.

selfishly, i dont want phoenix wright because i legit think he'd be terrible. literally the only reason.

still think we will get a nintendo rep with a pokemon being the easy guess for me. my best guess would be the fire starterfrom the new gen with some type of moveset based around the fire soccerball.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Could be worse. You could be like me trying to push L4D as another Valve option, so you have three big ones to choose from.

As much as I love L4D, TF2 and HL have the fan support and would probably fit best.

 

[Perkilator]

Dude, imagine if a normal Koopa Troopa got in instead of

 

[Guynamednelson]

As much as I love L4D, TF2 and HL have the fan support and would probably fit best.

Mainly I think L4D is underrated because of its own Japanese fanbase.

Also off-topic but why is the background in the Smashboards Classic theme now colored this isn't classic at all disregard this it's gone now.

 

[Will]

Also off-topic but why is the background in the Smashboards Classic theme now colored this isn't classic at all

I see no difference of them betraying the "classic" theme.

Besides, be glad you're not the poor soul who enjoys light mode. I want to know if Admins know who uses that ****, because I know no one who enjoys that theme.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I see no difference of them betraying the "classic" theme.

I was mainly using it because the lack of colors felt more pleasing to the eyes than a background full of them. I had to deal with the eyesore for just a few minutes, somehow thinking the redesign meant I had to now deal with it forever. Thankfully I've gotten my grayscale renders back quickly.

 

[7NATOR]

Personally I'm not in 2021 yet, but the List Cutie Gwen Posted is not the conclusion I came to

Personally, and I'll just be straight with you guys (Screencap this for the future)

Shadow
Scorpion
Elma

In that order. I'm finally excited to post my Predictions for the fighter Pass, because unlike before, I'm fully confident with these choices.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Mainly I think L4D is underrated because of its own Japanese fanbase.

It is true that L4D has widespread appeal. Though I just can’t see how a fighter would work. A tank or Boomer assist trophy would be cool thoigh.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

It's 2021 now in the UK.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I have one of two predictions:

- KOS-MOS (w/T-elos alt), Crash and Reimu
OR
- Elma, Octoling and Ahri

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Personally I'm not in 2021 yet, but the List Cutie Gwen Posted is not the conclusion I came to

Personally, and I'll just be straight with you guys (Screencap this for the future)

Shadow
Scorpion
Elma

In that order. I'm finally excited to post my Predictions for the fighter Pass, because unlike before, I'm fully confident with these choices.

Those are bold choices, to be sure.

 

[Perkilator]

My current predictions are Cinderace (March), Chosen Undead (August) or Crash (October or November)

 

[3BitSaurus]

i still feel that people arent looking at this right. what are the biggest game franshies left that nintendo could grab just to shock people? I always land on League of Legends and something blizzard.
i think ahri is a very likely choice. way more popular than someone like reimu globally and it still would seem like a total surprise to people. blizzard is like capcom they could have their own list of likely choices.

for capcom I think its either chunli or monster hunter. my heart wants dante but im pretty sure hes out at this point. both have strong arguments beyond their legacy as games. monster hunter is already in smash represented but not playable. so its either an argument of monsters themselves represent the series and Nintendo and Sakurai were satisfied or they were just holding off for a chance to add more later.

chun-li has the terry bogard connection to Sakurai maybe not as strong but since he grew up in arcades when SF 2 and third strike were both hugely active he is connected to her uniquely. and unlike terry chun-li is popular in a more general sense. her moveset easily translates and given her mobility in SF she'd make a very interesting smash character plus the last few characters have all been weapon-based Sakurai does love to change it up.

selfishly, i dont want phoenix wright because i legit think he'd be terrible. literally the only reason.

still think we will get a nintendo rep with a pokemon being the easy guess for me. my best guess would be the fire starterfrom the new gen with some type of moveset based around the fire soccerball.

To be completely fair, while I do think League is slept on, I also understand why people hesitate to call it a frontrunner - and I say this as someone who made two LoL threads. I think it has quite a few merits, but it's worth keeping in mind that there's more at play here than just being a big game.

Regarding your Phoenix bit: do you mean that in a competitive way, because of UMvC3? Because let me tell you, going from bottom tier to high tier mid-match is one of the hypest things that can happen when he's at play (and really, it's only because of the RNG bad evidence, and he'd probably be kinda busted in that game if not for said RNG).

 

[Swamp Sensei]

are all you really need.

Meta Knight and Dedede haven't been villains in years. They're just straight up heroes now.

Those two are villains like Steve is an anime swordsman. It's true only by technicality.

 

[Cosmic77]

Think I've already shared my predictions, but here they are again. I feel pretty good about them.

SwSh rep (preferably Zacian)
MH rep (not very knowledgeable about this franchise, so I don't know who they'd choose)
BotW 2 rep (if it's not one of the Champions, maybe one of the descendants?)

It's harder for me to give specific characters because there's not really a clear-cut frontrunner for any of these franchises/games. For BotW2, I don't even know what other characters are in it.

Meta Knight and Dedede haven't been villains in years. They're just straight up heroes now.

Those two are villains like Steve is an anime swordsman. It's TRUE only by technicality.

Meta Knight is more of a rival or anti-hero since his actions usually have good intentions. Dedede is technically a villain; it's just that his acts of villainy are pretty pathetic compared to other Kirby villains. He'll team up with Kirby occasionally, but it's always in cases where he benefits from it as well.

 

[Guynamednelson]

It is true that L4D has widespread appeal. Though I just can’t see how a fighter would work. A tank or Boomer assist trophy would be cool thoigh.

I've been thinking about that as well:

Spoiler: Survivor moveset

Jab: Melee shove
Forward/up/down tilt: Rapidly tap to fire dual pistols, hold to fire SMG. Obviously they'd be aiming forwards, upwards, and downwards during these moves
Dash: Quickly swings the baton
Forward Smash: Slashes directly in front of them with the machete
Up Smash: Overhead swing with the axe
Down Smash: Basically Joker's but slower and with the CSS knife
Neutral air: Shove again, but while jumping
Forward/back/up/down air: Uses the chainsaw. Down air is a meteor.
Neutral B: HUNTER! A Hunter spawns and tries to pounce on a nearby enemy. If he's successful, he gets one second to try ripping them to shreds before the survivor shoves him off, then he disappears
Side B: SMOKER! A Smoker appears and tries to use his tongue to pull an enemy closer to the survivor, who then kills the Smoker. Just like in L4D2, sharp weapons can destroy his tongue, which means, yes, anime swordfighters will have a hard time getting smoked.
Down B: BOOMER! A Boomer appears, vomits, and disappears. Anyone caught in its vomit will take more damage instead of attracting a horde. Also, the special infected spawned by these special moves can all be killed before they attack if you know how. Just keep your distance from the Boomer.
Up B: Rocketdude. Taken from a mutation added in the latest update, the survivor rocket jumps with the grenade launcher.
Final Smash: TAAAAAAANK! A Tank spawns and immediately swipes with his arm. If anyone is caught, a cutscene plays where the Tank pounds them into the ground, then the survivor throws a Molotov burning both the Tank and his victims, then he pounds his victims one last time.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

All these 2021 false prophets. I see through your lies with my 2020 vision! The real characters for the rest of the pass are Tak, Freddy, and Amaterasu.

inb4 "da heck is Tak?"

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I see no difference of them betraying the "classic" theme.

Besides, be glad you're not the poor soul who enjoys light mode. I want to know if Admins know who uses that ****, because I know no one who enjoys that theme.

I used a light theme all the way up until the 2018 redesign, just with blue accents rather than the impossible-to-read yellow accents that the only current light theme has. Back then it was because I associated the Brawl and Smash 4 era more with lighter colors because of their UI design, but even if that old theme was still available I'd never be able to go back to it after I've used the default theme for a few years now.

Also, since it seems people are doing predictions, I'm gonna go with Lloyd, Crash and Rex. I'm starting to feel that Waluigi might be the one to end DLC, but I'm going to reel that thought in for now.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

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[TheCJBrine]

All these 2021 false prophets. I see through your lies with my 2020 vision! The real characters for the rest of the pass are Tak, Freddy, and Amaterasu.

inb4 "da heck is Tak?"

If Tak gets in he better bring the Staff of Dreams to Switch.

 

[SpecterFlower]

Whether it already happened, will happen or is happening now for you happy new year everyone.

 

[Fishbunjin is cool]

Happy new Year. Time to say my predictions
Ryu Hayabusa or Bill Rizer
Crash Bandicoot or Eggman
Another 1st Party

 

[Fishbunjin is cool]

All these 2021 false prophets. I see through your lies with my 2020 vision! The real characters for the rest of the pass are Tak, Freddy, and Amaterasu.

inb4 "da heck is Tak?"

isn't Tak owned by nick nowadays or does THQ still keep the IP?

 

[Perkilator]

isn't Tak owned by nick nowadays or does THQ still keep the IP?

Pretty sure Nick owns Tak

 

[SpecterFlower]

Think I've already shared my predictions, but here they are again. I feel pretty good about them.

SwSh rep (preferably Zacian)
MH rep (not very knowledgeable about this franchise, so I don't know who they'd choose)
BotW 2 rep (if it's not one of the Champions, maybe one of the descendants?)

It's harder for me to give specific characters because there's not really a clear-cut frontrunner for any of these franchises/games. For BotW2, I don't even know what other characters are in it.



Meta Knight is more of a rival or anti-hero since his actions usually have good intentions. Dedede is technically a villain; it's just that his acts of villainy are pretty pathetic compared to other Kirby villains. He'll team up with Kirby occasionally, but it's always in cases where he benefits from it as well.

nah Dedede is straight up a hero at this point

Meta knight and dedede haven't done anything villainous since 1996, its a misconception that they are villains they used to be but not anymore
Kirby is in desperate need of new stuff, all the things kirby has right now are from 4 games: dreamland 1, Adventure, Superstar and Air ride

since then Amazing mirror, Squeak Squad, Canvas curse, Mass attack, epic yarn, return to dreamland, triple deluxe, planet robobot and star allies have all come out, none of those games have any representation apart from png's and 5 music tracks

 

[RetrogamerMax]

isn't Tak owned by nick nowadays or does THQ still keep the IP?

Nick had THQ first make the Tak games and than Nick themselves made a cartoon afterwards. I'm pretty sure Nick owns the rights to the Tak IP.

 

[Arcadenik]

What franchises still need a villain (counting bosses)? The only two I can think of are Porky and Robotnik.

Villainous Newcomers I would love to see in future Smash games

1. Mario series - Birdo
2. Mario series - Waluigi
3. Zelda series - Ganon (A Link to the Past)
4. Zelda series - Skull Kid
5. Yoshi series - Kamek
6. Kirby series - Marx
7. Pokemon series - Team Rocket (Jessie and James with Meowth & Ekans team and Meowth & Koffing team)
8. EarthBound series - Porky
9. Kid Icarus series - Medusa

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

If Tak gets in he better bring the Staff of Dreams to Switch.

Oooh! Yes! Then I can finally beat one of my games from my childhood!

Nick had THQ first make the Tak games and than Nick themselves made a cartoon afterwards. I'm pretty sure Nick owns the rights to the Tak IP.

Hm. I guess that sticks him in a weird grey area where he's technically a video game character but the intent was always to use him in a cartoon. Perhaps it was an attempt at making a multimedia franchise that failed because, well...From what I saw it wasn't a good show.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Hm. I guess that sticks him in a weird grey area where he's technically a video game character but the intent was always to use him in a cartoon. Perhaps it was an attempt at making a multimedia franchise that failed because, well...From what I saw it wasn't a good show.

Yeah. Despite Tak first appearing in a video game, I would consider him more of a cartoon character than a video game character.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Happy New Year!

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[RetrogamerMax]

5 Hours and 56 minutes until this ***** year is over in my timezone.

 

[Paraster]

I honestly can’t decide whether I’d want a TF2 or Half Life rep more. Though I know for sure Portal would have the best stage and boss.

I'd personally like Heavy more, but I acknowledge that Gordon would probably be more iconic and make more waves.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

5 Hours and 56 minutes until this ***** year is over in my timezone.

6 hours and 48 minutes till I get to bury this year.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

I'd personally like Heavy more, but I acknowledge that Gordon would probably be more iconic and make more waves.

Thats pretty much my Dilemma. Half Life is that game series, it would be monumental to see it join Snash. On the other hand, Heavy Weapons Guy yelling “You are dead! Not big surprise.” Is truly amazing.

 

[Fishbunjin is cool]

Nick had THQ first make the Tak games and than Nick themselves made a cartoon afterwards. I'm pretty sure Nick owns the rights to the Tak IP.

Oh ok

 

[TheCJBrine]

To be fair about Tak, his first game released in 2003 (2004 in some areas), and his cartoon didn't air until 2007, it ending up being a short-lived cartoon I think.

He is still owned by Nickelodeon though, and they were the producer for each game including the first one, so maybe it doesn't matter idk; his popular games did come before the cartoon though (Power of Juju, Staff of Dreams, and The Great Juju Challenge, each releasing between 2003-2005). According to the series's wiki, when the third game released, talks were being made with Nick to make the television series, but idk what the source of this info is; makes it sound like he wasn't planned with a cartoon in mind at first, though.

The cartoon first aired in August 2007, and ended in later January 2009.

 

[RileyXY1]

To be fair about Tak, his first game released in 2003 (2004 in some areas), and his cartoon didn't air until 2007, it ending up being a short-lived cartoon I think.

He is still owned by Nickelodeon though, and they were the producer for each game including the first one, so maybe it doesn't matter idk; his popular games did come before the cartoon though (Power of Juju, Staff of Dreams, and The Great Juju Challenge, each releasing between 2003-2005). According to the series's wiki, when the third game released, talks were being made with Nick to make the television series, but idk what the source of this info is; makes it sound like he wasn't planned with a cartoon in mind at first, though.

The cartoon first aired in August 2007, and ended in later January 2009.

Yeah. The games are far more iconic than the show is, and since he also debuted as a video game I personally consider Tak to be a video game character.