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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Even if Crash doesn't get in, I'm still happy i got Steve. Hayabusa is another one i'd like to see included






just not another fe character that is just a avatar....
 

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just not another fe character that is just a avatar....
There is literally no reason to worry about that unless Intelligent Systems rushes out a new FE just to add its avatar to Smash to make people mad. Which isn't how it works.
Especially no more Marth clones.
And there is no reason to worry about that when we aren't even getting semiclones.
 
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There is literally no reason to worry about that unless Intelligent Systems rushes out a new FE just to add its avatar to Smash to make people mad. Which isn't how it works.
Fire Emblem 6/7 remake gets announced and we get Mark as an Echo of Robin. :laugh:
 

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Personally I'm not in 2021 yet, but the List Cutie Gwen Posted is not the conclusion I came to

Personally, and I'll just be straight with you guys (Screencap this for the future)

Shadow
Scorpion
Elma

In that order. I'm finally excited to post my Predictions for the fighter Pass, because unlike before, I'm fully confident with these choices.
See you in March to see whether or not that holds up with CP9. It probably won't.
 
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When people say that first party reps from Nintendo are the bottom of the barrel, what does that even mean?
Probably something in the vein of "they're not a ultra gaming all-star so why should I care?" Seems like a lot of people that say that just think that Nintendo can't offer anymore all-stars or something, which I don't think is the case but whatever.
 

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To be completely fair, while I do think League is slept on, I also understand why people hesitate to call it a frontrunner - and I say this as someone who made two LoL threads. I think it has quite a few merits, but it's worth keeping in mind that there's more at play here than just being a big game.

Regarding your Phoenix bit: do you mean that in a competitive way, because of UMvC3? Because let me tell you, going from bottom tier to high tier mid-match is one of the hypest things that can happen when he's at play (and really, it's only because of the RNG bad evidence, and he'd probably be kinda busted in that game if not for said RNG).
that switch up works mid match in UMVC 3 because the power level of the game is so different. people would lose thier minds if a character like dark phoenix or vergil was in this game. i don't think smash caters to that kind of switch as amrvel does both in a gameplay sense and in how the playerbase culture is. also, I think smash players are really over these "second state" characters. sepiroth walks a good line but mac and joker push it way too hard.
 

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I don't think making the right guesses means you're a leaker since, well, it's guesses.
How do you know I'm even making guesses

What if I attained knowledge Unknown to you guys recently? Not trying to say that happened, but I will say that sometimes people might know more than they let on
 

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When people say that first party reps from Nintendo are the bottom of the barrel, what does that even mean?
"They're not the characters I personally want, so they're bottom of the barrel".
Comic Book Guy: There is... NO ONE! ABSOLUTELY NO ONE FROM NINTENDO LEFT THAT ANYBODY WANTS! And I'm not just saying that because of my bias opinion but saying it because it's a fact because I say so.
 
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So in other words, you wrote this?

Hmmm, that's up to your intpertation

A leaker? No. A prophet? Yes.
But you know what, I think I rather be known as a Prophet in Guessing than a Leaker honestly. One thing I haven't been able to guess is a Single Character

The closet characters I ever guessed were Ken and Sephiroth. Ken was already leaked, I just predicted he'd be the most unique echo in the roster. For Sephiroth I predicted him for FP1 but was wrong, and I still had him as potential candidate for FP2, but I wasn't actively predicting him when he got

So I think it would be nice to guess the next 3 Characters, along with getting Shadow in the game. I'm certain on the next 3 characters though.
 

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Hmmm, that's up to your intpertation



But you know what, I think I rather be known as a Prophet in Guessing than a Leaker honestly. One thing I haven't been able to guess is a Single Character

The closet characters I ever guessed were Ken and Sephiroth. Ken was already leaked, I just predicted he'd be the most unique echo in the roster. For Sephiroth I predicted him for FP1 but was wrong, and I still had him as potential candidate for FP2, but I wasn't actively predicting him when he got

So I think it would be nice to guess the next 3 Characters, along with getting Shadow in the game. I'm certain on the next 3 characters though.
The only character I ever guessed right that most of the community wasn't even thinking about beforehand was Dark Pit. I was one of the very few people in the pre-ESRB leak days that guessed Dark Pit before he was revealed in the ESRB leak. And the only reason I assumed he was in because he appeared at the end of Palutena's trailer like how Mr. Game & Watch appeared in Pac-Man's before he was officially announced in Smash 4.
 

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Um... no offense, but that is DEFINETLY fake.
None taken. I'm pretty confident it's fake myself. I just wanted to make 7NATOR spit out that he wrote it because that kind of text just oozes 7NATOR. :p

Also, I feel I should warn others that the replies include some rather offensive terms, so viewer discretion.
Websites like these always do because there's nothing to fear when people don't know who wrote anything.

Pure, unfiltered Internet bull**** is what they are.
 
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The only character I ever guessed right that most of the community wasn't even thinking about beforehand was Dark Pit. I was one of the very few people in the pre-ESRB leak days that guessed Dark Pit before he was revealed in the ESRB leak. And the only reason I assumed he was in because he appeared at the end of Palutena's trailer like how Mr. Game & Watch appeared in Pac-Man's before he was officially announced in Smash 4.
I Wasn't here for Base game Smash 4 Speculation, but honestly I would think people would think more of Dark Pit after Lucina was revealed to be a Clone, along with that trailer hint at the end of Palutena

I know Palutena was before Lucina/Robin, but I believe both trailers were before ESRB. Good job on guessing Dark Pit correctly though

I would like to do the same for This Fighter Pass. Most people aren't looking in Shadow's Direction. It's mostly Eggman if talking about Another Sonic Character, or Waluigi for Assist Promotion.

And for Scorpion, the Japan thing has people just throw him out completely, in which while I completely understand why, I don't think it's just that simple and there are signs that WB Games and Nintendo perhaps talked about Smash.

Elma is probably the character of my Predictions that gets the most talk, and that's saying something because besides Rie and a few others, no one brings her up much. Venomisbest did have her as prediction thanks to his analyasis though
 

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Question.

Who'd in your opinion be the three worst picked characters left chosen?

For me.

Jonesy
9th Fire Emblem character; This franchise has enough characters already. Mario and Pokemon at least makes sense since they're Nintendo's most iconic and popular franchises but this doesn't.
Any assist promotion; Because people who are in denial can't accept the fact their character is deconfirmed and simply can't wait until next game or a port/Ultimate Edition (Let's be honest Smash is too big and popular to not keep continuing).
Pink Gold Peach
A 2k Sports rep
Big the Cat
 

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I Wasn't here for Base game Smash 4 Speculation, but honestly I would think people would think more of Dark Pit after Lucina was revealed to be a Clone, along with that trailer hint at the end of Palutena

I know Palutena was before Lucina/Robin, but I believe both trailers were before ESRB. Good job on guessing Dark Pit correctly though

I would like to do the same for This Fighter Pass. Most people aren't looking in Shadow's Direction. It's mostly Eggman if talking about Another Sonic Character, or Waluigi for Assist Promotion.

And for Scorpion, the Japan thing has people just throw him out completely, in which while I completely understand why, I don't think it's just that simple and there are signs that WB Games and Nintendo perhaps talked about Smash.

Elma is probably the character of my Predictions that gets the most talk, and that's saying something because besides Rie and a few others, no one brings her up much. Venomisbest did have her as prediction thanks to his analyasis though
Palutena/Dark Pit and Robin/Lucina's trailers were in June and July of 2014. The ESRB leak didn't drop until August or September of the following year. But yeah, I was on the Smash Sub-Reddit back then and I didn't see anyone guessed Dark Pit at all before the ESRB leak dropped.
 

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Palutena/Dark Pit and Robin/Lucina's trailers were in June and July of 2014. The ESRB leak didn't drop until August or September of the following year. But yeah, I was on the Smash Sub-Reddit back then and I didn't see anyone guessed Dark Pit at all before the ESRB leak dropped.
If I recall, most people assumed Dark Pit would be either an alternate costume for Pit (which he initially was before becoming a clone) or a stage hazard.

Wasn't a member on this site during that time, but I lurked. :p
 
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I feel bad for people who don't want Jonesy. He's definitely a contender.
 

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There's a mechanic in fighting games I haven't seen a Smash newcomer use yet.

Air Dashing.

And here I go shilling for Chun-Li again as she can do it in the MvC games. I think Morrigan can do that as well.
If I recall, Darkstalkers invented the air dashes for the genre, so it'd be fitting to have her introduce it.

And the way I can see them happen is by replacing air dodges.
 

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Palutena/Dark Pit and Robin/Lucina's trailers were in June and July of 2014. The ESRB leak didn't drop until August or September of the following year. But yeah, I was on the Smash Sub-Reddit back then and I didn't see anyone guessed Dark Pit at all before the ESRB leak dropped.
Though I have seen some guess Dark Pit was possibly playable, since he did show up in the Trailer overall. Especially after seeing Lucina have her own slot, some guessed he might not be just an alt. In a twist, they were right, things just changed in development near the tail end.

The only thing I found odd about Dark Pit was him having the same model, meaning you couldn't tell him apart easily from Pit in the cases of the Metal Box. In a twist, that one thing that annoyed me was fixed by making the Metal characters no longer a solid color but more of a tint that shows off some of their textures.

I also called Dr. Mario being playable or he's nothing more than a Trophy(and not an alt) as soon as I saw Mario's customs. Megavitamains not being there is what tipped me off. Though honestly, among clones, he's not hard to guess being an easy one to come back. He was already intended for Brawl, so.
 
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