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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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SNEKeater

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So basically, Nintendo needs to buy MercurySteam next to stop this from happening again?

Wait, why does my mind always default to "Nintendo buys another company", when that's not even how they operate?
I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon


505 Games will publish their next game which according to the news, it will be a multiplatform title.
 

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So basically, Nintendo needs to buy MercurySteam next to stop this from happening again?

Wait, why does my mind always default to "Nintendo buys another company", when that's not even how they operate?
I think the only company Nintendo should buy is Grezzo. It's a company that makes good remakes and remasters, they would just benefit from the added budget and support. Plus it would be easy for them to grow, like how Monolith did.
 

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I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon


505 Games will publish their next game which according to the news, it will be a multiplatform title.
Fair enough.
I think the only company Nintendo should buy is Grezzo. It's a company that makes good remakes and remasters, they would just benefit from the added budget and support. Plus it would be easy for them to grow, like how Monolith did.
Would that mean Ever Oasis would get a second chance?
 

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So basically, Nintendo needs to buy MercurySteam next to stop this from happening again?

Wait, why does my mind always default to "Nintendo buys another company", when that's not even how they operate?
The thinking mostly boils down to (presumably):

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"BIG MEGACORP SWALLOW MORE PIE OF VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, THEN BIG MEGACORP SMASH PROFIT RECORDS"

:4pacman:

I think the only company Nintendo should buy is Grezzo. It's a company that makes good remakes and remasters, they would just benefit from the added budget and support. Plus it would be easy for them to grow, like how Monolith did.
There are a couple I could see, TBF (and Nintendo's more minor and "minor" series could certainly benefit from the increase in manpower and dev teams available to develop said games - see Donkey Kong), but that's one of them yes.
 
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Not particularly defending the claims from Zippo, but I don’t really get why people are so nasty about leakers who get a few things wrong. Zippo has also gotten a few things right - as always, these guys are generally not the direct source but are reporting information from people who they trust.

And sometimes that information goes south. Vergeben has been wrong before and (reasonable) people aren’t going around saying he’s not worth jack. Just go into this stuff with a grain of salt by default but understand there’s nuance to this sort of thing and it’s usually not some dude making random **** up if they’ve outright had legitimate information / sources before.

I hate to be the one defending leakers / “insiders” but I’m a little surprised people still don’t really grasp that.
 
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So, Bandanna Waddle Dee from the Kirby Series. How likely is he in your opinions. I think he's definitely underrated, but I like a good discussion so let's discuss.
Not the most likely character at this rate, but I think people underestimate not only his overall prominence since Return to Dream Land, but also how hungry his series is for content from the modern era.
 

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Not the most likely character at this rate, but I think people underestimate not only his overall prominence since Return to Dream Land, but also how hungry his series is for content from the modern era.
Dee is without question the next fighter from the Kirby series if we get one. I just personally doubt Nintendo is very interested in bringing him as the trend of first parties in Ultimate dlc has been to bring attention to newer Nintendo franchises.
 

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Dee is without question the next fighter from the Kirby series if we get one. I just personally doubt Nintendo is very interested in bringing him as the trend of first parties in Ultimate dlc has been to bring attention to newer Nintendo franchises.
The only new Nintendo franchise that the DLC has brought attention to so far was ARMS (and even then, it already had base game content). Everything else (in this case, :ultbyleth::ultpyra:) was from games in franchises previously represented in Smash.

That's not to say BWD's chances are any higher by this logic, make no mistake. My main point is that Nintendo can go back and add more content from previous Nintendo franchises if they want.
 

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The only new Nintendo franchise that the DLC has brought attention to so far was ARMS (and even then, it already had base game content). Everything else (in this case, :ultbyleth::ultpyra:) was from games in franchises previously represented in Smash.

That's not to say BWD's chances are any higher by this logic, make no mistake. My main point is that Nintendo can go back and add more content from previous Nintendo franchises if they want.
Sorry, I meant to say titles not franchises. XB2 and 3H are newer Switch titles. I don’t really see them promoting Kirby in the same way.
 

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The only new Nintendo franchise that the DLC has brought attention to so far was ARMS (and even then, it already had base game content). Everything else (in this case, :ultbyleth::ultpyra:) was from games in franchises previously represented in Smash.

That's not to say BWD's chances are any higher by this logic, make no mistake. My main point is that Nintendo can go back and add more content from previous Nintendo franchises if they want.
To be fair, the three examples you gave are all from Switch original games so it's kinda telling where Nintendo's priorities lie.

Not saying we can't get older Nintendo characters but the track record of the Ultimate DLC so far is the exact opposite of a good indication for them.
 

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The only new Nintendo franchise that the DLC has brought attention to so far was ARMS (and even then, it already had base game content). Everything else (in this case, :ultbyleth::ultpyra:) was from games in franchises previously represented in Smash.
That has inspired to to think of new Nintendo series reps that could be added to the roster:

Ayumi Tachibana from Famicom Detective Club
Akira Howard from Astral Chain

...Okay, I wasn't able to come up with much... ^^;
 

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Not particularly defending the claims from Zippo, but I don’t really get why people are so nasty about leakers who get a few things wrong. Zippo has also gotten a few things right - as always, these guys are generally not the direct source but are reporting information from people who they trust.

And sometimes that information goes south. Vergeben has been wrong before and (reasonable) people aren’t going around saying he’s not worth jack. Just go into this stuff with a grain of salt by default but understand there’s nuance to this sort of thing and it’s usually not some dude making random **** up if they’ve outright had legitimate information / sources before.

I hate to be the one defending leakers / “insiders” but I’m a little surprised people still don’t really grasp that.
Vergeben I would say was at his best leaking Smash

In other Games, While he does also leak some correct things (His first major leak was TMNT in Injustice 2) alot of the time, he either had some misleading info or just wrong info, and even would piggyback. If you saw te situation with FighterZ for example, I think people would be more critical of Vergeben

I think with Smash, Vergeben either got better sources or was better at vetting certain claims and not just spilling out the first things he is told

Also, in regards to Zippo, One of the Mods on a Popular Sonic forum did state that Zippo did mention Sonic Colors Ultimate to them before the game was leaked on retailer site
 

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What a fool, your own post micking typos had a typo. It's spelt "song", not "wrong"
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What a fool, your own post micking typos had a typo. It's spelt "song", not "wrong"
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haha you spelt fail like fool. What a indiot.
 

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After giving the current roster another look, I noticed that there are no elderly characters in it. That leads me to a new question for everyone: What elderly characters would make great additions? My picks:

Cranky Kong
King Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule
Peppy Hare ( I don't know if he's old enough to be a senior citizen in Star Fox 64 and Adventures, but I do know he is in Assault and Command)
Drampa (though since it's a species of Pokemon, I'm not sure if it qualifies; after all, there do exist young Drampas in the Pokeverse)
Porky Minch
Dyntos
Arlon
Tortimer
Old Snake (as an alternate costume of Solid Snake)
Dr. Eggman (if you ttake into account the lore of Space Colony ARK as well as Gerald Robotnik, then he's pretty likely to be an elder)
Dr. Wily
Gen
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Father Balder
Gruntilda Winkybunion
Heihachi Mishima
I second Cranky Kong because I love the character and the DK series as whole, Old Snake because it would be an easy alt, and Heihachi because I know that my younger siblings would relish the opportunity to play as a barefooted old man with crazy hair, despite having no knowledge of or interest in Tekken.
 

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I second Cranky Kong because I love the character and the DK series as whole, Old Snake because it would be an easy alt, and Heihachi because I know that my younger siblings would relish the opportunity to play as a barefooted old man with crazy hair, despite having no knowledge of or interest in Tekken.
Yeah, if Heihachi wasn't scrapped from Smash 4, he'd have been the first old-timer in Smash.
 

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After giving the current roster another look, I noticed that there are no elderly characters in it. That leads me to a new question for everyone: What elderly characters would make great additions? My picks:

Cranky Kong
King Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule
Peppy Hare ( I don't know if he's old enough to be a senior citizen in Star Fox 64 and Adventures, but I do know he is in Assault and Command)
Drampa (though since it's a species of Pokemon, I'm not sure if it qualifies; after all, there do exist young Drampas in the Pokeverse)
Porky Minch
Dyntos
Arlon
Tortimer
Old Snake (as an alternate costume of Solid Snake)
Dr. Eggman (if you ttake into account the lore of Space Colony ARK as well as Gerald Robotnik, then he's pretty likely to be an elder)
Dr. Wily
Gen
Gouken
Father Balder
Gruntilda Winkybunion
Heihachi Mishima
I really want to see a Master Xehanort transformation style character where he transforms into both Ansem and Xemnas. I love Kingdom Hearts but I’ve always vastly preferred the villains over Sora personally.
 
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To be fair, Resetera is the second easiest place on the internet to get banned from, with YandereDev's discord taking the gold medal.
That reminds me: What would the Internet's reaction to the Yandere Sim chick getting into the roster?
 

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To be fair, Resetera is the second easiest place on the internet to get banned from, with YandereDev's discord taking the gold medal.
Counterpoint: there’s being banned for regular forum offenses (which are extensive) and then there’s being banned cuz the mods find out your sources are fake

I’m sure it was the latter that time
 

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That reminds me: What would the Internet's reaction to the Yandere Sim chick getting into the roster?
They’d probably join YandereDev’s server en masse, say “Are ya coding son?” And all get banned

and this that server will have the biggest number of banned members ever
 

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They’d probably join YandereDev’s server en masse, say “Are ya coding son?” And all get banned

and this that server will have the biggest number of banned members ever
It'd also be another example of Nintendo putting other companies' characters to better use (such as with Pac and Mega Man).
 

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Either the third or fourth week of May might be the time to drop some news.

Also, more leaks are supposely think the selected character(s) are higher to appear at E3. The race of which character is in starts to heat up
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What the viewer sees when their most wanted is close:


What the viewer sees when another that isn't what they want is close:

Yes, I wanted an excuse to post that last one, since that's what the quoted picture reminded me of.
 

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Mario + Rabbids: A Teensie Bit of Trouble has shown up in a few leaks at this point. All of them originating around the same time. If that is legit what the next one is called then the Rayman Implications are... quite exciting.
 
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Mario + Rabbids: A Teensie Bit of Trouble has shown up in a few leaks at this point. All of them originating around the same time. If that is legit what the next one is called then the Rayman Implications are... quite exciting.
That leak terrifies me


Because it says "CP10, releasing Fall."



Like, 6 months between CP9 and CP10 would be horrible, ngl, especially since since Byleth, we've been conditioned to expect characters close to their reveal, going back to pre-Byleth release schedules, on top of a potential 6 month gap between 9 and 10 would be horrible.
 

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What the viewer sees when their most wanted is close:

Yes, I wanted an excuse to post that last one, since that's what the quoted picture reminded me of.
If it helps - no matter which character it winds up being it's another character that will probably be able to pull off some really fun stuff:


Mario + Rabbids: A Teensie Bit of Trouble has shown up in a few leaks at this point. All of them originating around the same time. If that is legit what the next one is called then the Rayman Implications are... quite exciting.
I do think it's worth highlighting this picture from Ubisoft's recent conference call:



They do consider Mario & Rabbids a still notable game, so if a sequel's in the works it wouldn't surprise me.
 

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That leak terrifies me


Because it says "CP10, releasing Fall."



Like, 6 months between CP9 and CP10 would be horrible, ngl, especially since since Byleth, we've been conditioned to expect characters close to their reveal, going back to pre-Byleth release schedules, on top of a potential 6 month gap between 9 and 10 would be horrible.
What leak is this?
 

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What leak is this?
It's one of the two leaks that mentioned the new Mario+Rabbids game.


One outright said that CP10 is Rayman, the other only said it's an Ubisoft rep, but the latter said that CP10 drops "In Fall."



I kinda find it very hard to believe that they'd make us wait 6 months between P/M and supposedly Rayman unless they somehow ran into ARMs-level of character difficulty.
 
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