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Y'know, it pains me to say it, but from this point on, I feel like Sonic is gonna become the "loser" franchise that Final Fantasy once was with this in mind. Only a single Smash-centric remix from a few games prior, a stage from one of his more contested games, waning presence of personality with his character model, and generally just being plagued with a lot of SEGA's mandates could spell trouble for the blue boi.
Ain't that the sad truth...
Magus has always been my personal most wanted character and the Battletoads have always been my brother’s. I do wish Magus got all the attention Geno did. Now that’s a Square-Enix side character from an SNES JRPG I can really get behind lol.
Sorry. I've never really been exposed to the Battletoads, with what little I have seen mostly consisting of watching matches against the ugly abomination that is Killer Instinct Rash, and I would hate Magus as the sole representative of Chrono Trigger about as much as I hate solo Pyra and Mythra as the sole representative of Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Two camps:
Would that apply to Monokuma if he became the Danganronpa rep?
I get that 100%, but I think a lot of people (myself included) saw Sephiroth's reveal and thought "Wow, our first third-party villain is from FF7! That's...actually kind of odd."
It was never stated that the choice was between Ninjara and Min Min, just that Ninjara was considered.
Probably. I don't really know what his deal is if the question has to be asked though.
Yeah this has always been my perspective on it too.
Well, while Eggman is not as popular as Shadow or Tails, he did first appear in the first Sonic game along with Sonic himself. Being a villain aside, I would say he is an important, iconic character In his series like Sephiroth is. Doesn’t mean Eggman will get in, though.
I think the deal here is, if Danganronpa were to get a Smash rep, who would it be: one of the protagonists or Monokuma? On the one hand, having a protagonist would better represent Danganronpa's gameplay. On the other hand, Monokuma IS Danganronpa. Nine times out of ten, when people think Danganronpa, they think the murderous teddy bear who's in charge of the whole thing.
I'm not so sure it was so much a bandwagon thing as it was more of a hope renewed. We hadn't gotten a second third party rep from the same series yet (barring Ken, but he was an Echo) let alone a Villain as DLC, so once Sephiroth dropped, everyone already in support of Eggman felt free to voice their support because it didn't seem like an impossibility anymore.
Yeah, I wouldn't really get my hopes up for a third Fighters Pass, not only due to what Sakurai said about the Sakurai Presents trailer, but he also said months ago that there are CURRENTLY no plans for another FP.
I wouldn't say people have jumped the gun with Dr. Eggman, but I do agree that he's basically on the same page as the entire consistent cast (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, and of course, Dr. Eggman).
That makes me think that there's a high chance that a Danganrompa character would be a protagonist with a stage that's just a vehicle for Monokuma being Monokuma.
Unless that quota is "Actual content for FFVII".
That's not really the argument here. It's more that Sephiroth having such an emphasis on his villainy is a definitive sign that there no other villains were selected.
Part of me also feels that Cloud only came back for Ultimate under the condition Sephiroth was added.
Yeah it kinda almost feels like that Square-Enix just wanted Cloud to be DLC all over again, but obviously Nintendo/Sakurai wanted him back for the base game in the name of "Everyone is Here!". So the compromise was that Sephiroth would be DLC with the majority of Final Fantasy's additional content (spirits, music, Mii outfits).
Sonic is in this weird situation where the series technically has a pretty good amount of content - but a lot of that content feels kinda uninspired
One could argue his reveal there was in response when Final Fantasy first released in December of 1987.
More like him being on the base roster. I think that had Sephiroth not been added Cloud would have been DLC again and there would be no "Everyone is Here".
I kinda get the impression he was also included because of his sheer destructive potential - something which isn't that common amongst the DLC we've gotten so far. While it may not be a primary aspect, it's worth noting that Sakurai showed off ways to follow up on Gigaflare. One of those follow-ups is regularily used by pros using him (Gigaflare -> F-Smash).
and maybe as coming remotely close to Sephiroth's "whoops you approached me a bit too recklessly I'll give you dis pear and blow you up".And honestly it kinda feels like a lot of said content was out of the promotional angle (Windy Hill being added in Smash 4 when Lost World was current, a few of the Sonic stuff introduced in Ultimate being from Mania / Forces, etc.). It also sucks since it was a missed opportunity to include more stuff - especially from games like Colors / Generations / other games.
No need to apologize. I understand that everyone is different and entitled to their own opinions. I agree that Rash’s Killer Instict design is kind of disappointing but I understand that they had to do it to fit the style of the game. Their best designs were on the Super Nintendo with Battlemaniacs. Their arcade designs are pretty similar to this as well. I’m pretty confident Sakurai would go with those designs instead of KI or the reboot based on Mega Man, Simon, Banjo and others.
From what I've been told, the design is supposed to poke fun at the Michael Bay TMNT movies, which is mildly amusing. Still butt ugly though.
The problem lies mostly with small and rotating cast series. Small series usually only get 1 character and rotating cast series rack up so many important characters that they can't keep up let alone add some of the lesser ones.
Ah, so it is.
For some reason my brain jumped to:
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Conversely, Erdrick was one of my most wanted characters for Smash. But I don't play him at all, because his mechanics are terrible.
Yeah, that's what sucks about Sonic's situation. He already has a sizeable amount of content, and it seems like Nintendo would be fine with just letting him stay the way he is... But on the other hand, not all of that content is really the best, namely the rather uninspired moveset and the redundancy of Green Hill and Windy Hill (Even if I like Windy Hill's layout better, it would be better to have a more distinct stage, like Chemical Plant or the Death Egg). As such, we're just kinda stuck with it.
